182 or 197?

[Stefan.]

I don't see the huge appeal of the Trophy version personally, having said that I've only seen one and haven't driven one. I just think the suspension sounds a bit fussy and an unnecessary extra to maintain as a cup packed 182 handles superbly anyway... The colour of the Trophy isn't that fantastic either, obviously it's only my opinion but I just don't see them as being that special! Renault could have made it a lot more special in my opinion as I see it as a parts bin car.... a V6 spoiler, different sus(fair enough), wheels off the cup version, cup headlights, and Recaros that aren't very special and not to mention the cheap looking Trophy decal on the skirts... They didn't even fit a tasty sports exhaust or anything over the standard car......:dapprove:

need to drive one to then be able to give a fair opinion on one

 

[Knuckles]

i personally prefer 197 over the 182, but on that budget, get an awesome trophy, and spend the change on... whatever you want, currently need a budget of at least 6500 to get a basic 197

they seem to go for that price with no options... theres a standard one for sale near me for £8950 iirc with xenons and climate control... no recaros, no cup chassis, no hero/cup spoiler!? not even a spoiler come to think of it. dreamers.

I don't see the huge appeal of the Trophy version personally, having said that I've only seen one and haven't driven one. I just think the suspension sounds a bit fussy and an unnecessary extra to maintain as a cup packed 182 handles superbly anyway... The colour of the Trophy isn't that fantastic either, obviously it's only my opinion but I just don't see them as being that special! Renault could have made it a lot more special in my opinion as I see it as a parts bin car.... a V6 spoiler, different sus(fair enough), wheels off the cup version, cup headlights, and Recaros that aren't very special and not to mention the cheap looking Trophy decal on the skirts... They didn't even fit a tasty sports exhaust or anything over the standard car......:dapprove:

tbh, it is a parts bin edition. but the parts theyve picked are brilliant as opposed to the new special edition clios with just all the options picked and a sticker.

the wheels are wider (iirc) than the 172cup turinis... The recaros. fair play are just there because recaro. the spoiler imo sets it apart from 'normal' 1*2s. the headlights are the only let down and xenons arent hard to retrofit.

think of it as an improved 172cup. rather than a 182 with extras

but to be pessemistic... theyre a pink clio :rasp:

 

[VR46-G@Z]

they seem to go for that price with no options... theres a standard one for sale near me for £8950 iirc with xenons and climate control... no recaros, no cup chassis, no hero/cup spoiler!? not even a spoiler come to think of it. dreamers.





tbh, it is a parts bin edition. but the parts theyve picked are brilliant as opposed to the new special edition clios with just all the options picked and a sticker.

the wheels are wider (iirc) than the 172cup turinis... The recaros. fair play are just there because recaro. the spoiler imo sets it apart from 'normal' 1*2s. the headlights are the only let down and xenons arent hard to retrofit.

think of it as an improved 172cup. rather than a 182 with extras

but to be pessemistic... theyre a pink clio :rasp:

If the alloys are wider than the standard cup wheels then that makes me like the Trophy ever so slightly more than i did before...

 

[Knuckles]

If the alloys are wider than the standard cup wheels then that makes me like the Trophy ever so slightly more than i did before...

lol, it could be the other way round but i know fitting trophy turinis to low 182s causes a scrubbing problem

 

[Bluebeard]

The wheels aren't wider, they're a different offset.

 

[Knuckles]

The wheels aren't wider, they're a different offset.

aah my bad, cheers

 

[markerboy2002]

A LY 182, or any 182 for that matter

 

[ben_r1]

I'd be looking at 225s myself with that budget

 

[DUBS73P]

I'd be looking at 225s myself with that budget

Naa has to be 230 r26 if you're getting a megane, or a 182 trophy/premium colour, any 197 for 5k is gonna be fucked, then again that's the same for the 230.

 

[Ben197]

I'm a 197 owner and love the car but for your budget I'd definitely say 182 and tbh I'm still tempted to trade in for a trophy, also if you're planning on tinkering with the car there are alot of options compared to the 197 and much cheaper

 

[DanielJames]

I'm in a similar situation, hasnt the 197 got bugger all kit standard?

 

[WAR 23N]

Very tidy Full Fat 182 all day long... in Racing blue or Liquid yellow. It's a better looking car simple as that!

^ ^ ^ This

 

[ben_r1]

I'm in a similar situation, hasnt the 197 got bugger all kit standard?

The non cup has air con, keyless entry, electric mirrors etc... Loads of kit.

The cup has electric windows lol!

 

[Knuckles]

I'm in a similar situation, hasnt the 197 got bugger all kit standard?

Same as 182s tbh. The ones to look for are the ones specced with climate, cruise (standard iirc), xenons with cornering lights (washer jets) cup chassis (red calipers and anthracite wheels) an obviously recaros. I'm sure the 182s only came with xenons and climate as standard

 

[si_hartlepool]

I think it's got to be a 182 (ff or trophy).

I would think a 197 in that price range is going to be a bit ropey.

 

[Christopher]

Neither. 200.

 

[Munson]

Ohne Cup spoiler of course.

 

[Christopher]

Ja

 

[Munson]

Genau TBH.

 

[Jordi17]

Stretch budget and get a 200, much better than both

 

[Cueball]

Stretch budget and get a 200, much better than both

Have you had all 3?

 

[Gaz_]

flol at the replies here.

Like a 200 is 5k better than a cupped 197. Delusional

 

[Bluebeard]

Stretch budget and get a 200, much better than both

If by 'stretch' do you mean double?

 

[Gaz_]

full r****d.

 

[R-Sport.]

When I sell my present car the wife has very kindly said I can have a Clio again (I have previously owned a 172 cup). I am thinking I am going to have about £4500 - £5000 to spend.
I am imagining for that money I will be able to get a tidy 182 or a not so tidy 197.
What are peoples thoughts on both cars? What would people recommend? Good and bad points to look our for on both cars?

Any help really appreciated.

Ross.

Simples-

on that budget Spunk all 5k on a decent trophy, or spend 4k on a MINT racing blue 182 & then spunk £700 on recaros for it

Job done
S

 

[Jordi17]

Have you had all 3?

Owned both the 182 and 200. Driven the 197

 

[.Stevo.C.]

Owned both the 182 and 200. Driven the 197

Thought your parents owned the 200?

 

[Jordi17]

Yeah if youre being picky lol. Although I get the card key a fair bit

 

[Bluebeard]

So you haven't owned a 200... I can now add 'liar' to you already being dumb and a dickhead.

 

[Christopher]

flol at the replies here.

Like a 200 is 5k better than a cupped 197. Delusional

Lol.

Jordi strikes again.

 

[Silent_Scone]

Drive both, depends what you want out of it really. Just make sure you don't compare with a dog 1*2 there's enough of them out there

So you haven't owned a 200... I can now add 'liar' to you already being dumb and a dickhead.

LOL.

 

[JT182]

I don't see the huge appeal of the Trophy version personally, having said that I've only seen one and haven't driven one. I just think the suspension sounds a bit fussy and an unnecessary extra to maintain as a cup packed 182 handles superbly anyway... The colour of the Trophy isn't that fantastic either, obviously it's only my opinion but I just don't see them as being that special! Renault could have made it a lot more special in my opinion as I see it as a parts bin car.... a V6 spoiler, different sus(fair enough), wheels off the cup version, cup headlights, and Recaros that aren't very special and not to mention the cheap looking Trophy decal on the skirts... They didn't even fit a tasty sports exhaust or anything over the standard car......:dapprove:

Drive one. I guarantee you'll think the complete opposite to what you're thinking now! The dampers transformed it. Its ride is a bit firmer but a 182 is hardly known for its comfort anyway! The Trophy's just in a different league to drive; it's truly an all-time great. The Recaros are a huge improvement on those atrocious 182 seats which offer absolutely nothing in the way of support. Capsicum Red is a brilliant colour when clean as well.

I'd have one over a 197 every single time. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the looks of the 197, but everything depends on the spec that the original owner ordered. There are so many 197s that fail miserably on this part. Xenons, Speedlines, and Recaros are essential!

 

[RDH]

So you haven't owned a 200... I can now add 'liar' to you already being dumb and a dickhead.

Hahaha. I hope Jordi never leaves this forum. Just for the occasional bit of genius.

 

[Brett]

I'd rather have the 182 and change than an early 197. The early 197's have the silly low ratio gearboxes, no option of cup chassis or recaros.

Just my personal opinion but I'd want one that at least had cup chassis and recaros. Ideally like climate too. Basically 182 spec in a 197.

 

[VR46-G@Z]

Drive one. I guarantee you'll think the complete opposite to what you're thinking now! The dampers transformed it. Its ride is a bit firmer but a 182 is hardly known for its comfort anyway! The Trophy's just in a different league to drive; it's truly an all-time great. The Recaros are a huge improvement on those atrocious 182 seats which offer absolutely nothing in the way of support. Capsicum Red is a brilliant colour when clean as well.

I'd have one over a 197 every single time. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the looks of the 197, but everything depends on the spec that the original owner ordered. There are so many 197s that fail miserably on this part. Xenons, Speedlines, and Recaros are essential!

I must confess hearing so many people bang on about the trophy does intrigue me to actually experience driving one.... I still keep my opinions on a very average effort by Renault to cosmetically enhance the car, but this suspension is obviously the main factor....

 

[Jane]

182s have more character. If someone offered me the choice Id get a 182, you can have more fun with it and you can pick up loads of bits to make it exactly what you want as youd be spending less to buy the car.

 

[James23]

I don't see the huge appeal of the Trophy version personally, having said that I've only seen one and haven't driven one. I just think the suspension sounds a bit fussy and an unnecessary extra to maintain as a cup packed 182 handles superbly anyway... The colour of the Trophy isn't that fantastic either, obviously it's only my opinion but I just don't see them as being that special! Renault could have made it a lot more special in my opinion as I see it as a parts bin car.... a V6 spoiler, different sus(fair enough), wheels off the cup version, cup headlights, and Recaros that aren't very special and not to mention the cheap looking Trophy decal on the skirts... They didn't even fit a tasty sports exhaust or anything over the standard car......:dapprove:

I agree with all of the above - and the trophy dampers can be fitted to a 182FF if you wanted to.
I don't like the pov spec rear seats in the trophy either though these can easily be changed obviously.

 

[Jordi17]

So you haven't owned a 200... I can now add 'liar' to you already being dumb and a dickhead.

Ive got you down as more than just a dickhead thats for sure.

 

[Cueball]

Lol

 

[Gaz_]

Ive got you down as more than just a dickhead thats for sure.