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TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Take everything you read or hear wth a pinch of salt.
Tank slapping at 80mph isn't gonna be heathy with pas or not.
if you have driven a non pas car and compared it with a pas (same car model) you will notice after about 20 mph there is hardly any difference in the amount of effort required to turn the wheels.
erm, refering to the snatch comment, how can a non pas be more violent? it's not assisted?
all non pas does is, it allows you to feel the steering more, as when loosing grip, understeer for example, is easier to detect with a non pas car.
Take everything you read or hear wth a pinch of salt.
Tank slapping at 80mph isn't gonna be heathy with pas or not.
if you have driven a non pas car and compared it with a pas (same car model) you will notice after about 20 mph there is hardly any difference in the amount of effort required to turn the wheels.
erm, refering to the snatch comment, how can a non pas be more violent? it's not assisted?
all non pas does is, it allows you to feel the steering more, as when loosing grip, understeer for example, is easier to detect with a non pas car.
M
mini-valver
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Was waiting for this update! Proper job dude, doing it right from the start FTW!
Was waiting for this update! Proper job dude, doing it right from the start FTW!
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Cheers mate, that's the plan! Ordered a few more bits last night. Another 250 biff
Chopped a door skin out this afternoon, will update later if my internet connection holds out!
Cheers mate, that's the plan! Ordered a few more bits last night. Another 250 biff
Chopped a door skin out this afternoon, will update later if my internet connection holds out!
M
mini-valver
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Picking up some goodies tommorrow for mine lad, shame it doesnt move TBH, lol. I WILL come give you a hand soon, want to see it!
Picking up some goodies tommorrow for mine lad, shame it doesnt move TBH, lol. I WILL come give you a hand soon, want to see it!
ITB'd MK1
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
looks Awesome!!, are you doing a column drop to go with the seat being so low?
looks Awesome!!, are you doing a column drop to go with the seat being so low?
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Cheers, nice to hear that from someone who seems to know his stuff too.
Column drop would be nice, but not looked into it yet. How would you go about it? It's not too high at the moment as I'm a lanky c*nt, but a little lower would be nice at the same time.
Chris
Cheers, nice to hear that from someone who seems to know his stuff too.
Column drop would be nice, but not looked into it yet. How would you go about it? It's not too high at the moment as I'm a lanky c*nt, but a little lower would be nice at the same time.
Chris
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Finished work a little earlier than I was expecting today so had another couple of hours on the car, 7 day week ftl.
Dragged the subframe outside and pressure washed it off first of all. Was covered in rubbish mainly where one of the CV boots had split previously. Revealed a fair few rust patches, so I'll treat that and give it all a once over in good time.
Next I started chopping my N/S door to bits! You may have noticed the drivers side has barely been touched yet and still has the glass and winding mechanism etc still in, so I'll try and get everything right on the passenger side so that I can make a decent job of the one I'll see the most.
No need for any door internals at all. Fixed windows eventually and no chance of any speakers ever going back in.
Not a bad curve in the end with an angle grinder
All done bar the small part inner/bottom
Chris
Finished work a little earlier than I was expecting today so had another couple of hours on the car, 7 day week ftl.
Dragged the subframe outside and pressure washed it off first of all. Was covered in rubbish mainly where one of the CV boots had split previously. Revealed a fair few rust patches, so I'll treat that and give it all a once over in good time.
Next I started chopping my N/S door to bits! You may have noticed the drivers side has barely been touched yet and still has the glass and winding mechanism etc still in, so I'll try and get everything right on the passenger side so that I can make a decent job of the one I'll see the most.
No need for any door internals at all. Fixed windows eventually and no chance of any speakers ever going back in.
Not a bad curve in the end with an angle grinder
All done bar the small part inner/bottom
Chris
TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Put goggles on you muppet! otherwise you'll be in A&E getting bits of metal dug out of your eyes! :dapprove:
Put goggles on you muppet! otherwise you'll be in A&E getting bits of metal dug out of your eyes! :dapprove:
TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Bit more sound proofing i see to take out! lol
Bit more sound proofing i see to take out! lol
TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Is there an echo, i'm sure that's what i said? lol:rasp:
Is there an echo, i'm sure that's what i said? lol:rasp:
ITB'd MK1
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
not sure yet in honesty. It's something I've done on 205s with some washers and longer bolts but they're angled lower than clios to start with. I'd probably make up some new mounts for the column from scratch rather than using spacers. Box section welded to the cross car beam, and some captive thread added (riv-nuts maybe) I'm quite tall, and I find the steering to be too high for my likeing with standard seats lol.
not sure yet in honesty. It's something I've done on 205s with some washers and longer bolts but they're angled lower than clios to start with. I'd probably make up some new mounts for the column from scratch rather than using spacers. Box section welded to the cross car beam, and some captive thread added (riv-nuts maybe) I'm quite tall, and I find the steering to be too high for my likeing with standard seats lol.
TVR Cerbera
TVR Cerbera
172 Race Car
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=296190
Ive done this coloum mod on a 172, have a browse through my thread, not sure what page its on. I think its a similar setup on a mk1
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=296190
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Good stuff, I'll look into it.
Cheers
Good stuff, I'll look into it.
Cheers
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Engine will remain pretty close to standard, a few tweeks maybe. Suspension will be coilovers of some description for Williams fitment, which I havent yet decided. Plenty of time yet.
Brakes I think I'm going to stick with the standard calipers, but uprate the lines for stainless ones, decent fluid and a track orientated disc/pad combo.
Chris
Engine will remain pretty close to standard, a few tweeks maybe. Suspension will be coilovers of some description for Williams fitment, which I havent yet decided. Plenty of time yet.
Brakes I think I'm going to stick with the standard calipers, but uprate the lines for stainless ones, decent fluid and a track orientated disc/pad combo.
Chris
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Not a great deal to report I'm afraid, progress has slowed somewhat!
I stripped the engine bay of most bits and set about cleaning/degreasing that ready for some paint. Settled on satin black rather than a daft colour which briefly crossed my mind. Couple of coats of paint then started putting a few bits back in.
Finish is alright for rattle cans and not a great deal of prep work. I've done it to get everything back the one colour and protect the bare areas more than anything, so I'm happy enough.
I drove 250 miles yesterday to pick a Williams steering rack up from f0xy. It will get the same treatment as my valver rack with the manual setup. Advantages are 1/4 turn less throw lock to lock (2 3/4 ish as apposed to 3 on the valver) and the arms are longer to allow for the widetrack. I could of got away with using the 1.8 rack, but I'd prefer a few more threads of the track rod ends wound in for peace of mind. Need to get 2 new rod ends for it and manual-ise it, but then it'll be good to go:
Collected a pair of R19 16v wishbones from a local motorfactors complete with balljoints. Cost a bargain £14 each plus the VAT, rather than £28+ that GSF wanted.
19 16v Anti roll bar also arrived from a guy over on WilliamsClio site. (Amongst the rest of the subframe bits)
Car as it stands. Yep, still in lots of bits.
I've decided on a slightly different approach to the widetrack setup too. Rather than keeping the valver brakes/hubs and sourcing a pair of Williams driveshafts (rare), I'm going to swap it all out for 172 items which will give me 280mm brakes as opposed to the standard 258mm too.
19 16v Goodridge brake lines and a short shifter kit on the way too.
So to summarise, a fair bit more spending and not a great deal more progress!
Chris
Not a great deal to report I'm afraid, progress has slowed somewhat!
I stripped the engine bay of most bits and set about cleaning/degreasing that ready for some paint. Settled on satin black rather than a daft colour which briefly crossed my mind. Couple of coats of paint then started putting a few bits back in.
Finish is alright for rattle cans and not a great deal of prep work. I've done it to get everything back the one colour and protect the bare areas more than anything, so I'm happy enough.
I drove 250 miles yesterday to pick a Williams steering rack up from f0xy. It will get the same treatment as my valver rack with the manual setup. Advantages are 1/4 turn less throw lock to lock (2 3/4 ish as apposed to 3 on the valver) and the arms are longer to allow for the widetrack. I could of got away with using the 1.8 rack, but I'd prefer a few more threads of the track rod ends wound in for peace of mind. Need to get 2 new rod ends for it and manual-ise it, but then it'll be good to go:
Collected a pair of R19 16v wishbones from a local motorfactors complete with balljoints. Cost a bargain £14 each plus the VAT, rather than £28+ that GSF wanted.
19 16v Anti roll bar also arrived from a guy over on WilliamsClio site. (Amongst the rest of the subframe bits)
Car as it stands. Yep, still in lots of bits.
I've decided on a slightly different approach to the widetrack setup too. Rather than keeping the valver brakes/hubs and sourcing a pair of Williams driveshafts (rare), I'm going to swap it all out for 172 items which will give me 280mm brakes as opposed to the standard 258mm too.
19 16v Goodridge brake lines and a short shifter kit on the way too.
So to summarise, a fair bit more spending and not a great deal more progress!
Chris
M
mini-valver
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Engine bay looks good mate, ballache doing it 449 and lacquering in comparison!
The 172 widetrack is a miles better set-up with the brakes too. Where have you had the short shift from BTW?
Engine bay looks good mate, ballache doing it 449 and lacquering in comparison!
The 172 widetrack is a miles better set-up with the brakes too. Where have you had the short shift from BTW?
TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
engine bay looking good
engine bay looking good
ValverInBits
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
been busy there whiters! hope you had a good xmas and new years.
The 172 track idea sounds a good-un. Are you sure the willy rack is required for the wide track? I've been thinking that the track rod ends could just be adjusted, but not sure. :S
have fun pressing the wishbone bushes in mate
been busy there whiters! hope you had a good xmas and new years.
The 172 track idea sounds a good-un. Are you sure the willy rack is required for the wide track? I've been thinking that the track rod ends could just be adjusted, but not sure. :S
have fun pressing the wishbone bushes in mate
