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MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Close, could go either way I'd say.
Definitely not "eat you for breakfast though".
Let him think that then have a go for a laugh.
Definitely not "eat you for breakfast though".
Let him think that then have a go for a laugh.
Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
im in a 172 cup 03 and i can easily pull away from my sisters 97 vr6, mines stock hers has full zorst. and the cup just carries on pulling away with an indicated 140+mph b4 i back off and let her catch up
Turbos.
A Cup is a lot faster than a standard 172 though...probably a full couple of secs faster to 100mph.
I think the Golf is only Mini Cooper S fast.
Evo 8 Jap Crap
I have just come from a 1996 Golf VR6 to a clio 172.
The clio 172 will have the golf off the line easy.
However from a rolling start say 30mph and above the Golf will pull away easy, you just dont realise how torquey the VR6 lump is, it comes in very low in the rev range.
Mine was standard apart from a Cat back exhaust and panel filter and was 192bhp and 178lbs torque.
The VR6 will do 130 in 4th
The clio 172 will have the golf off the line easy.
However from a rolling start say 30mph and above the Golf will pull away easy, you just dont realise how torquey the VR6 lump is, it comes in very low in the rev range.
Mine was standard apart from a Cat back exhaust and panel filter and was 192bhp and 178lbs torque.
The VR6 will do 130 in 4th
MINI JCW
I have just come from a 1996 Golf VR6 to a clio 172.
The clio 172 will have the golf off the line easy.
However from a rolling start say 30mph and above the Golf will pull away easy, you just dont realise how torquey the VR6 lump is, it comes in very low in the rev range.
Mine was standard apart from a Cat back exhaust and panel filter and was 192bhp and 178lbs torque.
The VR6 will do 130 in 4th
No way will a VR6 easily pull away from a 172 even when rolling, ive been behind impreza wrx, meg 225 in my 182 and they have more torque than the vr6 and they havent been able to pull away
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MINI JCW
about 20secs to 100mph?
So what about the cooper s ?
Would i piss over one ?
And outta interest what others cars woul the 172 beat ?
The VR6 will do 130 in 4th
Outta curiousity, what does a 172 do in 4th ?
As i aint picking mine up till end of week.
my old hybrid used to eat 172/182s for breakfast but i raced a VR6 up a hill, i had a car full and he was alone, i was away he was way way behind but by the top of the hill he was going past me.... my brakes were lots better though From a standing start clio all day, but on a long bit of road the golf will sail past most 172s
From a standing start clio all day, but on a long bit of road the golf will sail past most 172s
Evo 8 Jap Crap
I have just come from a 1996 Golf VR6 to a clio 172.
The clio 172 will have the golf off the line easy.
However from a rolling start say 30mph and above the Golf will pull away easy, you just dont realise how torquey the VR6 lump is, it comes in very low in the rev range.
Mine was standard apart from a Cat back exhaust and panel filter and was 192bhp and 178lbs torque.
The VR6 will do 130 in 4th
No way will a VR6 easily pull away from a 172 even when rolling, ive been behind impreza wrx, meg 225 in my 182 and they have more torque than the vr6 and they havent been able to pull away
Impreza WRX has AWD losses :nono:
brisa4984
ClioSport Club Member
had a tango with one of these in my 172 ff
this was from a rolling start and i gained on him very easily and very quickly..
i had to back off pumpin the throttle or i was gona hit his rear...
crappy vr6s.. go home.
this was from a rolling start and i gained on him very easily and very quickly..
i had to back off pumpin the throttle or i was gona hit his rear...
crappy vr6s.. go home.
Nissan 350Z
Eh?
Standard for standard a 172 will beat a VR6 no question. Similar power, but the Clio is much lighter. Simple laws of physics.
Standard for standard a 172 will beat a VR6 no question. Similar power, but the Clio is much lighter. Simple laws of physics.
M
M7CUO_V6
My mate has an old j reg vr6, they are quick. Not much in it realy tho.
His is lowered 40mm and handles surprisingly well too! He just throws it into corners, boots it and it just pulls out the other side(so much grip).
His is lowered 40mm and handles surprisingly well too! He just throws it into corners, boots it and it just pulls out the other side(so much grip).
Evo 8 Jap Crap
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ChrisR
ClioSport Club Member
Mate had a j reg pre cat model which was very nippy
We did some Gtech timed 0-60 runs in my mk1 172 and his vr6, the Clio should win to 60 (although being a mk2 you might not ) but the way the VR6 pulls top end omg, as soon as you get into license losing speeds the Golf pulled loads better.
We did some Gtech timed 0-60 runs in my mk1 172 and his vr6, the Clio should win to 60 (although being a mk2 you might not
) but the way the VR6 pulls top end omg, as soon as you get into license losing speeds the Golf pulled loads better.Come on get a grip, You should know the answer to that..................A Clio172/182 cup beats most things on the road
Independent test figures show the following:
VR6
0 - 60 = 7.1 secs
0 - 100 = 18.7 secs
30 - 70 (through gears) = 6.4 secs
Max Speed = 147mph
Clio 172
0 - 60 = 7.1 secs
0 - 100 = 17.9
30 - 70 (through gears) = 7.0 secs
Max Speed = 137mph
It's no walkover whichever one you're driving.
VR6
0 - 60 = 7.1 secs
0 - 100 = 18.7 secs
30 - 70 (through gears) = 6.4 secs
Max Speed = 147mph
Clio 172
0 - 60 = 7.1 secs
0 - 100 = 17.9
30 - 70 (through gears) = 7.0 secs
Max Speed = 137mph
It's no walkover whichever one you're driving.
MINI JCW
Megane 225 doesnt though
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Agree...225's don't pull away at all.
Mr Townsend in his V6 with 255bhp...now he pulls away, not by much though, and he certainly doesn't eat me for breakfast.
To put things into perspective...
Mr Townsend in his V6 with 255bhp...now he pulls away, not by much though, and he certainly doesn't eat me for breakfast.
To put things into perspective...
MINI JCW
Is your 172 std?
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
I have a slightly fettled vr6 highline and also a standard highline.
The standard one is not quite as fast as my mates 05 182 but once doing 80+ on the motorway he cant pull away in any gear.
My modded one which has a proven 195bhp.I have a ram-air forced induction and a boxter full system on it.It pulls away after 50+ and just keeps pulling.It pulls a big gap by 120mph.
Never under estimate the power of the Vr6.
There quite lumpy engines to use but once moving and in the revs they will pull really well.
My mates 182 has 27k on the clock by the way.
A standard one will loose out round town and islands but once moving it wont be far away at all.
ian
The standard one is not quite as fast as my mates 05 182 but once doing 80+ on the motorway he cant pull away in any gear.
My modded one which has a proven 195bhp.I have a ram-air forced induction and a boxter full system on it.It pulls away after 50+ and just keeps pulling.It pulls a big gap by 120mph.
Never under estimate the power of the Vr6.
There quite lumpy engines to use but once moving and in the revs they will pull really well.
My mates 182 has 27k on the clock by the way.
A standard one will loose out round town and islands but once moving it wont be far away at all.
ian
Nissan 350Z
Not sure whether that comment was a genuine query or a sarcastic reply, but yes similar power... the 172 has 170 bhp and the VR6 174 bhp. The Golf weighs a lot more though. Therefore, clio is faster.
Clio doesnt have that much torque, but it doesnt need it, torque is not what defines overall straight line performance, power is. A VAG TDI 130 has twice the amount of torque of a standard clio 172 but is no faster.
Nissan 350Z
Obviosly though
They have 40 bhp more than a clio and superior aerodynamics, which matters more at high speeds.
But between 0-100 i'd fancy a something such as a ph1 172 / cup / 182 to beat an ST220 though.
Why do you need more than 100 mph anyway? Speaking personally i am potentially facing the prospect of being banned after inadvertently going past a speed camera and an unknown, but quite possibly substantially higher than the speed limit speed in my clio, so why i would need to go faster above a ton than i already do, i'll never know!
