*Written by DaveGeorge over at 206info.co.uk*
Well today was the day of the much anticipated Rolling Road meet at RStuning in Leeds, Hope you enjoy the write up and pics, i think its fair to say a good day was had by all!
The day started early ahead of a 7am meet at the Junc 25 M1 services where i was meeting up with Kitty and Antix who had both travelled from Birmingham, we were also meeting Chi, gti180lover, dillon17 and WilliE who like complete mad men had travelled up from London at stupid oclock to make the 9.30 start - top marks there i think!
There was a nice 7 car convoy from Nottingham to Leeds, somehow we missed the meet up with djwizard and b206 at junc 28 - i think Chi might know about this... - sorry about that one guys! Arriving at Leeds for 9.30 bang on time
A couple of folk were already there - i cant remember exactly who as it seems so long ago now! - and from that point on it seemed like cars just kept on arriving! We ended up with 17 cars in total which i think was a great response to the day and certainly made it well worthwhile for all those who had travelled huge distances to be there!
Obviously things needed to get cracking and Tony took the brave pill and stepped up as first on the rollers! In all we had 15 members get their cars dyno'd with some interesting results, Below is a brief outline of each members results starting with the smallest engine sizes first and working up. All figures are at the flywheel.
Car - 1.4 8v (75hp standard)
Owner - Mikeylad
No Modifications!
Power - 81.8hp
Torque - 94 ft lb
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Car - 1.4 8v (75hp standard)
Owner - Kitty85
Modifications - Sebring rear box / Panel filter
Power - 83.1hp
Torque - 100 ft lb
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1.6 8v (90hp standard)
Owner - Howey896
No Modifications!
Power - 86.6hp
Torque - 97 ft lb
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1.6 8v (90hp standard)
Owner - Lukemeister
Modifications - Zorstec cat back / K&N Panel filter
Power - 93.9hp
Torque - 108 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Dillon17
Modifications - Red Dot racing remap / GSR induction kit / Scorpion cat back
Power - 134.3hp
Torque - 139 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Willie
Modifications - Decat / Custom cat back exhaust / Simota Carbon fibre AeroForm induction kit
Power - 135.1hp
Torque - 145 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Oldbanger
Modifications - Red Dot racing remap / GSR induction kit / Magnex rear box
Power - 136.7hp
Torque - 138 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Chichee
Modifications - RStuning remap / Magnex cat back / K&N panel filter
Power - 137hp
Torque - ? ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Antix
Modifications - Angel tuning remap / Powerflow cat back / K&N panel filter
Power - 138hp
Torque - 142 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - DaveGeorge
Modifications - RStuning remap / Devil 4-1 Manifold / Magnex cat back / GSR induction kit
Power - 141hp
Torque - 145 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Flashyashy
Modifications - Janspeed cat back / Pipercross Vortex induction kit
Power - 159.4hp
Torque - 138 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Tarmac Terrorist
Modifications - Custom cat back / GSR induction kit / Well lane turbo centre remap
Power - 159hp
Torque - 149 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Gti180lover
Modifications - Red dot racing remap / Janspeed cat back / GSR induction kit
Power - 161.3hp
Torque - 147 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Sab206
No modifications!
Power - 161.6hp
Torque - 147 ft lb
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2.0 HDI (Tractor) (90hp standard?)
Owner - djwizard
Modifications - Red dot racing remap / Front mounted intercooler with custom piping / Pipercross Viper induction kit / running 18psi boost
Power - 127.2hp @ approx 3300rpm
Torque - 245 ft lb @ approx 2375rpm
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Some really interesting results there, the 1.4s performed brilliantly, both being up on standard figures with nice power curves, equally impressive were the 1.6's again displaying very smooth power curves. The gti's (all 6 of them) were a more mixed bag, all were tuned and all ran slightly different figures, the 4 180's that ran today were quite confusing, 2 were tuned and 2 were standard non remapped cars but all 4 ended up within a couple of hp of each other at around 160hp. Quite why this is remains open to debate, but to add to the story, RSTuning see similar results with Renaults Clio 197 which typically can show around 175hp on the dyno, indicating that manufacturers claims may be a tad optimistic?!
Possibly the most impressive car of the day was the lone HDI that ran, owned by djwizard, with a thumping 245 ft lb torque, this was showing great potential with Paul commenting that the power could be substantially improved on with more work to sort the mapping/fuelling out - quite impressive stuff!
Hats off to everyone for having a go and enjoying themselves, there were some unexpected figures there but everyone still had smiles on their faces and especially when the tea van turned up at midday!! Those who could took a drive down to Mcdonalds afterwards before going our seperate ways. Personally i would like to thank everyone for making the effort, these things are really so much more rewarding when a good crowd turn up - much respect for b206 who drove up in his van just to be there! - all in all it was a great day out im sure you will agree. I would also like to thank RSTuning for a great day accomodating the forum with a relaxed and friendly atmosphere too.
*Written by myself*
The small debate that seems to going on now is the figures compared to Red Dot. The GTi 180's for ex. Tony's 180 was rolling roaded at 188bhp but put out 161 on RSTunings.. Second was Dillons GTi 137. His car put out 134 bhp on RSTunings and 158bhp on Red Dots. Comparing Dillions car to mine.. My car put out more power, more torque without a Red Dot Remap and GSR induction Kit...
We would all appricate if you could leave some feedback and your views on RSTuning and what you think about the figures. I myself belive they are accurate as my car was RR'd twice in a month with 1 bhp difference betweeen Sanspeed and RSTuning...
Once again your feedback would be much appriciated
Link to the 206info thread at RSTuning... http://www.206info.co.uk/ForumsPro/viewtopic/t=43811/finish=15/start=30.html
WilliE
Well today was the day of the much anticipated Rolling Road meet at RStuning in Leeds, Hope you enjoy the write up and pics, i think its fair to say a good day was had by all!
The day started early ahead of a 7am meet at the Junc 25 M1 services where i was meeting up with Kitty and Antix who had both travelled from Birmingham, we were also meeting Chi, gti180lover, dillon17 and WilliE who like complete mad men had travelled up from London at stupid oclock to make the 9.30 start - top marks there i think!
There was a nice 7 car convoy from Nottingham to Leeds, somehow we missed the meet up with djwizard and b206 at junc 28 - i think Chi might know about this... - sorry about that one guys! Arriving at Leeds for 9.30 bang on time
A couple of folk were already there - i cant remember exactly who as it seems so long ago now! - and from that point on it seemed like cars just kept on arriving! We ended up with 17 cars in total which i think was a great response to the day and certainly made it well worthwhile for all those who had travelled huge distances to be there!
Obviously things needed to get cracking and Tony took the brave pill and stepped up as first on the rollers! In all we had 15 members get their cars dyno'd with some interesting results, Below is a brief outline of each members results starting with the smallest engine sizes first and working up. All figures are at the flywheel.
Car - 1.4 8v (75hp standard)
Owner - Mikeylad
No Modifications!
Power - 81.8hp
Torque - 94 ft lb
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Car - 1.4 8v (75hp standard)
Owner - Kitty85
Modifications - Sebring rear box / Panel filter
Power - 83.1hp
Torque - 100 ft lb
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1.6 8v (90hp standard)
Owner - Howey896
No Modifications!
Power - 86.6hp
Torque - 97 ft lb
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1.6 8v (90hp standard)
Owner - Lukemeister
Modifications - Zorstec cat back / K&N Panel filter
Power - 93.9hp
Torque - 108 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Dillon17
Modifications - Red Dot racing remap / GSR induction kit / Scorpion cat back
Power - 134.3hp
Torque - 139 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Willie
Modifications - Decat / Custom cat back exhaust / Simota Carbon fibre AeroForm induction kit
Power - 135.1hp
Torque - 145 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Oldbanger
Modifications - Red Dot racing remap / GSR induction kit / Magnex rear box
Power - 136.7hp
Torque - 138 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Chichee
Modifications - RStuning remap / Magnex cat back / K&N panel filter
Power - 137hp
Torque - ? ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - Antix
Modifications - Angel tuning remap / Powerflow cat back / K&N panel filter
Power - 138hp
Torque - 142 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti (137 hp standard)
Owner - DaveGeorge
Modifications - RStuning remap / Devil 4-1 Manifold / Magnex cat back / GSR induction kit
Power - 141hp
Torque - 145 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Flashyashy
Modifications - Janspeed cat back / Pipercross Vortex induction kit
Power - 159.4hp
Torque - 138 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Tarmac Terrorist
Modifications - Custom cat back / GSR induction kit / Well lane turbo centre remap
Power - 159hp
Torque - 149 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Gti180lover
Modifications - Red dot racing remap / Janspeed cat back / GSR induction kit
Power - 161.3hp
Torque - 147 ft lb
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2.0 16v Gti 180 (180hp standard)
Owner - Sab206
No modifications!
Power - 161.6hp
Torque - 147 ft lb
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2.0 HDI (Tractor) (90hp standard?)
Owner - djwizard
Modifications - Red dot racing remap / Front mounted intercooler with custom piping / Pipercross Viper induction kit / running 18psi boost
Power - 127.2hp @ approx 3300rpm
Torque - 245 ft lb @ approx 2375rpm
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Some really interesting results there, the 1.4s performed brilliantly, both being up on standard figures with nice power curves, equally impressive were the 1.6's again displaying very smooth power curves. The gti's (all 6 of them) were a more mixed bag, all were tuned and all ran slightly different figures, the 4 180's that ran today were quite confusing, 2 were tuned and 2 were standard non remapped cars but all 4 ended up within a couple of hp of each other at around 160hp. Quite why this is remains open to debate, but to add to the story, RSTuning see similar results with Renaults Clio 197 which typically can show around 175hp on the dyno, indicating that manufacturers claims may be a tad optimistic?!
Possibly the most impressive car of the day was the lone HDI that ran, owned by djwizard, with a thumping 245 ft lb torque, this was showing great potential with Paul commenting that the power could be substantially improved on with more work to sort the mapping/fuelling out - quite impressive stuff!
Hats off to everyone for having a go and enjoying themselves, there were some unexpected figures there but everyone still had smiles on their faces and especially when the tea van turned up at midday!! Those who could took a drive down to Mcdonalds afterwards before going our seperate ways. Personally i would like to thank everyone for making the effort, these things are really so much more rewarding when a good crowd turn up - much respect for b206 who drove up in his van just to be there! - all in all it was a great day out im sure you will agree. I would also like to thank RSTuning for a great day accomodating the forum with a relaxed and friendly atmosphere too.
*Written by myself*
The small debate that seems to going on now is the figures compared to Red Dot. The GTi 180's for ex. Tony's 180 was rolling roaded at 188bhp but put out 161 on RSTunings.. Second was Dillons GTi 137. His car put out 134 bhp on RSTunings and 158bhp on Red Dots. Comparing Dillions car to mine.. My car put out more power, more torque without a Red Dot Remap and GSR induction Kit...
We would all appricate if you could leave some feedback and your views on RSTuning and what you think about the figures. I myself belive they are accurate as my car was RR'd twice in a month with 1 bhp difference betweeen Sanspeed and RSTuning...
Once again your feedback would be much appriciated
Link to the 206info thread at RSTuning... http://www.206info.co.uk/ForumsPro/viewtopic/t=43811/finish=15/start=30.html
WilliE
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