4 or 6 point harnesses??

[Schweppy]

Can't decide. Both looking to be around the £100 mark for TRS or RSA ones.

Initially just for track days but POSSIBLY for a bit more later on.

 

[Budgie]

4 point is more than enough for road and track use.

 

[Advikaz]

Yep.

Plus 6 are a pain in the nuts to keep putting on and off.

 

[Schweppy]

That's what I thought but just reading about submarining in a crash and for the sake of an extra clip into the buckle thought it might be worth it.

 

[Budgie]

Nah, won't be an issue as long as the buckle of the buckle is put in the right place

 

[Goodj]

A decent seat would help prevent submarining. But I'm guessing you've already changed those?

 

[Schweppy]

Yeh I have changed them already. Just Corbeau Clubsports at the moment. Seems to be a few pairs of 'in date' 6 points on eBay but no 4 point. It's only a track car and doesn't get used otherwise.

Sounds like 4 point would be easier...

 

[Goodj]

Best way probably, yeah.

You can always upgrade if you need to pass scrutineering

 

[Schweppy]

True lol. Just wanted to future proof if possible as it would cost no extra if you see what I mean.

 

[Advikaz]

If you can get hold of 6 pointers and they're reasonable, why not!?

All we are saying is it's a bit of overkill for what you're using it for. But that's not necessarily a bad thing?

But yes they're a pain lol.

 

[Schweppy]

Haha. Thank you.

Well a second hand set of in date 6 point TRS Magnums are £100. New 4 point ones would cost me double that.... Lol

 

[Goodj]

They'll be out od date by the time it matters anyway so yeah, crack on

 

[Schweppy]

I don't think they need to be in date for club level stuff do they? Tricolore for example? Only just getting my head around the bluebook though...

I was more thinking that in date ones would at least mean they aren't that old!

 

[Addicted]

If it has a bluebook I'd be surprised if they would allow out of date stuff imo.

 

[Advikaz]

Depends on the scrutineer lol.

 

[MarkX]

I bought trs magnum 4 points, decided to buy an extra strap to make them 5 point, I actually find it more comfortable now, much easier to position it properly, plus it will be safer if I bin it

 

[just-that-ek]

Jjc are selling a rally pack of harnesses for £166

 

[Schweppy]

Jjc are selling a rally pack of harnesses for £166

Yeh saw that but £200 with VAT so still half price to get in date used 6 pointers....

 

[Jamie86]

Normally the 6points you can use just as 4 as well. Belts need to be in date for Tricolore seats don't

 

[Adam G]

For MSA events such as Tricolore, as Jamie states..harness in date 4 point minimum and they are checked. Seats are only checked for rigid fitting but not date.

 

[Schweppy]

Ah brill thanks guys. So seats rigid mean no runners? Just in case you had different drivers etc.

Also I was gonna ask that but thought it was stupid. Can you run a 6 point as a 4 point? The buckle is attached to the anti sub straps so would mean having the other end of them not attached to anything??

 

[Adam G]

Blue book states must be complete units so I would guess that would include your idea and make it a no.
https://www.msauk.org/assets/153191commonregulationsforcompetitorssafetyk.pdf

 

[Jamie86]

I'm a bit confused as the 5point I have you can just leave the crotch strap out and works fine as 4 point instead..

 

[Adam G]

It's the old hassle of how you interpret the regs I think. But if you interpret differently to the scrutineers, you aren't going out so better to be 100%

 

[Schweppy]

I think I'm just going to go 6 point. It's what I use at work every day anyway lol....