406 brembo conversion on 182 questions

[simondavies89]

Hi, im looking to fit bigger brakes to my 182 turbo and have come across the 406 brembos which seem to be a low cost conversion. im looking at fitting them behing my 15" 2118s so i no space is an issue.

has anyone got them behind these alloys before?

if i was to buy a used set of the 406 brembo callipers, would i be able to use them on the standard disc size?

is ther any other modifications and upgrades you need to make to get them to work and how do i go about getting brackets made?

Thanks

 

[cs_dave]

They wont go behind 15s mate ive got them on behind 16s there big!

 

[Edd]

A decent thread showing what is required....

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...ive-(Brembo-300mm-discs)&highlight=406+brembo

 

[MartinR]

Brackets are from motex performance.

But are designed to run with 300mm discs and 16s.

 

[simondavies89]

They wont go behind 15s mate ive got them on behind 16s there big!

wana keep my 2118's realy. any brembos that will fit behind 15"?

could get willwoods but idealy want to get some brembos

 

[cs_dave]

The 197/200 brembos I believe will fit but its a pricey set up

 

[Mr R.]

The 197/200 brembos I believe will fit but its a pricey set up

But not as expensive as the 295mm kit from Jam Sport @ £1200.

 

[cs_dave]

But not as expensive as the 295mm kit from Jam Sport @ £1200.

A brake set up that cost the same price you can get a clio pmsl

 

[Coops Mk1]

what brake lines do people use for this conversion?

 

[Tutuur]

Standard brake lines fit.

 

[Tutuur]

But prepared to be squealed with those brembo's

 

[Ricardos]

Is there a comprehensive guide for this conversion that can be made as a sticky? I'm also thinking of doing this once the supercharger conversion is done on mine

 

[MartinR]

Standard brake lines fit.

This.

But at full stretch when jacked up. So if your car spends alot of time with front wheels off the floor, i would advise getting some new ones made up at 400mm long.

And they do squeel which isn't helped by people fitting them straight to the car.

Strip them down and replace the caliper shims. It stops alot of the squeelung along with filing a few mm off the pads.

Mine squeel but not half as bad as they used too!

 

[Bobby.]

What pads are you using Martin?

 

[Tutuur]

And what needs to be filed?

i have them on the 9 now but really hate them tbh. They squeel like f**k!

@ ricardo
a dutch company made the brackets, they can be bought for €95 incl bolts.
than you just need the calipers and pads...

 

[Coops Mk1]

This.

But at full stretch when jacked up. So if your car spends alot of time with front wheels off the floor, i would advise getting some new ones made up at 400mm long.

And they do squeel which isn't helped by people fitting them straight to the car.

Strip them down and replace the caliper shims. It stops alot of the squeelung along with filing a few mm off the pads.

Mine squeel but not half as bad as they used too!

they'll be fine then as the conversion is going on a mark 1 clio 16v, so shorter than 182 lines as standard so 182 should give me nice bit of slack

 

[botfch]

When you say squeal is that just under braking or all the time?

 

[172lover]

they'll be fine then as the conversion is going on a mark 1 clio 16v, so shorter than 182 lines as standard so 182 should give me nice bit of slack

Was going getting 19 1.8 16V lines from my Brembo's coops.
heard a few people saying they used them are there fine.

 

[Coops Mk1]

ai good call, but I wont bother if the 182 ones I have kicking about in the shed fit

 

[Tutuur]

You won't need any brackets on the mk1 Ben, only 2mm washers to bring the calipers in a bit.

regarding the squealing, they do it during light (normal) braking....

 

[MartinR]

What pads are you using Martin?

Just some cheap tat at the moment but they have each side of the pad material chamfered like this. (if you can see the poor picture)

And what needs to be filed?

i have them on the 9 now but really hate them tbh. They squeel like f**k!

You need to file a couple of mm off both sides of the pad so when you put it in the caliper it has forward back movement against the shims.

When you say squeal is that just under braking or all the time?

Mine still squeel very faintly under light braking stamp on them and you get nothing, Personally i put it down to the gases between disc and pad and the last option left to try for me is fit grooved discs.

You won't need any brackets on the mk1 Ben, only 2mm washers to bring the calipers in a bit.

regarding the squealing, they do it during light (normal) braking....

As above couple of washers and job done

 

[172lover]

You won't need any brackets on the mk1 Ben, only 2mm washers to bring the calipers in a bit.

regarding the squealing, they do it during light (normal) braking....

I got 3mm washers on my yolk,
you'll need 15mm wheel spacers also!!
(I'm using Williams "track")


what mm discs you using coops??

 

[Coops Mk1]

You won't need any brackets on the mk1 Ben, only 2mm washers to bring the calipers in a bit.

regarding the squealing, they do it during light (normal) braking....

I know mate, I've already offered them up and test fitted. I just hadn't sorted lines out

 

[Coops Mk1]

I got 3mm washers on my yolk,
you'll need 15mm wheel spacers also!!
(I'm using Williams "track")


what mm discs you using coops??

standard 172/182 discs mate, 283mm is it?

 

[172lover]

280mm is 172/182 size,

if you havent them bought yet...
look for Renault 21 discs.... There 285mm

or there is some disc from a Toyota that is 295mm that is the same as Renault fitmeants iirc,
should fit under 15" / with the brembos
(Thread on here somewhere)


*edit*
found it
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?717232-Brake-disc-offsets&highlight=Toyota+disc

 

[Coops Mk1]

nah they are already on the car mate, the hi specs fitted them too so I bought some bogo brembo ones 18 months or so ago so no danger

cheers for the link though, i'll get the slightly larger ones when they need replacing

 

[MartinR]

280mm is 172/182 size,

if you havent them bought yet...
look for Renault 21 discs.... There 285mm

or there is some disc from a Toyota that is 295mm that is the same as Renault fitmeants iirc,
should fit under 15" / with the brembos
(Thread on here somewhere)


*edit*
found it
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?717232-Brake-disc-offsets&highlight=Toyota+disc

Toyota avensis discs need the centre bore lathed to 61mm

and iirc the offset is 5mm over standard so the disc won't sit central. Although maybe slightly different in a mk1 due to no brackets .

Also are the renault 21 discs not something like 21mm thickness?

24mm to 28mm thickness is ideal imo

 

[botfch]

You running any spacers with your setup Martin?

 

[MartinR]

16mm spacers but reckon i can get away with 5-10mm need to have a fiddle next time the wheels are off.