8Valve engines ?

[Michael172]

They still make them ?

i cat imagine having to put up with one.


Noisy, only power is at low revs. Gf has a 1.1 saxo 8v. Utter shite.

 

[Da]

Campus is 1.2 8v iirc?

 

[theduck]

Theres still some out there I think. Have to say you shouldn't brand all 8v's the same, there are some excellent 8v engines!

 

[Ad]

I was suprised when i drove the 1.2 8v clio, not massively different to the 16v low down.

This all campus' are now 16v. but they were 8vs earlier on.

 

[bradus]

8v power rules...

cant wait to get 16vs in mine

 

[AlexS]

1.1 8v Saxo is probably quicker than a 1.2 16v Clio in my experience.

 

[jamesp24]

Behave

 

[Michael172]

only from start, on a straight mines slightly better. Its a good engine though. it just doesnt have any pull up in the revs.

 

[AlexS]

Behave

A saxo 1.1 only has 15bhp less than a Clio 1.2 16v but ways much much less, the stats say it all.

 

[Ad]

the 1.2 16v clio is significantly quicker! lol

 

[mattupson]

8v reppin' here

Does the job, and doesn't feel too different from my mums 16v.

 

[theduck]

take two clios. 1 with a 1.4 16v (mk2 ph2) and one with a 1.6 8v (mk2 ph1). They weigh about the same, have same power output (1.4 is 2bhp lower if you want to be picky) and the 1.4 16v is ever so slightly quicker in the real world and totally un-noticeable in normal driving. I would say this is down to having wider power band and higher reving.

Though saying that, the mk2 Ibiza cupra came in 2.0 16v and 2.0 8v trim. The 2.0 8v was the better engine from a tuning point of view.

 

[Djw John]

Balls, 8v does the job well, my 1.4 8v was as qucik as the 1.2 16v, used same petrol but pulled from lower down, i was more than happy with it

 

[Michael172]

take two clios. 1 with a 1.4 16v (mk2 ph2) and one with a 1.6 8v (mk2 ph1). They weigh about the same, have same power output (1.4 is 2bhp lower if you want to be picky) and the 1.4 16v is ever so slightly quicker in the real world and totally un-noticeable in normal driving. I would say this is down to having wider power band and higher reving.

Though saying that, the mk2 Ibiza cupra came in 2.0 16v and 2.0 8v trim. The 2.0 8v was the better engine from a tuning point of view.

isnt the 1.4 8v on the same level as the 1.2 16v ? in fact the 1.2 16v has a better top speed doesnt it ? 106mph and the 1.4 has a top of somehitng like 98mph ?

 

[theduck]

take two clios. 1 with a 1.4 16v (mk2 ph2) and one with a 1.6 8v (mk2 ph1). They weigh about the same, have same power output (1.4 is 2bhp lower if you want to be picky) and the 1.4 16v is ever so slightly quicker in the real world and totally un-noticeable in normal driving. I would say this is down to having wider power band and higher reving.

Though saying that, the mk2 Ibiza cupra came in 2.0 16v and 2.0 8v trim. The 2.0 8v was the better engine from a tuning point of view.

isnt the 1.4 8v on the same level as the 1.2 16v ? in fact the 1.2 16v has a better top speed doesnt it ? 106mph and the 1.4 has a top of somehitng like 98mph ?

you quoting the wrong person i presume??

 

[AlexS]

the 1.2 16v clio is significantly quicker! lol

Not according to parkers figures and my experience of driving both.



1.1 Saxo 1124/4 60HP 102MPH 12secs 0-60

1.2 16v Clio 1149/4 75HP 106MPH 12.6 0-60

 

[Dan172+]

What about my old 1.3 8v 106 rallye? 130bhp on bike carbs and a close ratio box...at about 7500rpm:rasp: would rape a standard 106 1.6 16v gti... 8v old school all the way!lol!

 

[Graham Gooch]

What about my old 1.3 8v 106 rallye? 130bhp on bike carbs and a close ratio box...at about 7500rpm:rasp: would rape a standard 106 1.6 16v gti... 8v old school all the way!lol!

That was a great engine!

 

[theduck]

Cant believe i didnt think of the rallye 1.3 8v as an example of an excellent 8v engine! Fantastic little car!

 

[Graham Gooch]

Don't forget Fords 1.6 CVH 8v as Used in XR2 and XR3s................lol

 

[theduck]

which the Renault 1.6 8v was quicker than....

 

[Graham Gooch]

Didn't say it was a good engine

 

[BenWall]

Isnt the 1.8RSI a good engine condering its a 8v...110bhp and 0-60 in 8.7 or something. Not bad I dont think.

 

[Ricardinho]

golf mk2 8v arguably better than the 16v

also the S2 106 rallye's 1.6 8v engine is pretty great

 

[Maxx]

Isnt the 1.8RSI a good engine condering its a 8v...110bhp and 0-60 in 8.7 or something. Not bad I dont think.

I have great fun with mine - plenty of mid range torque and can suprise quite a few cars on the road I get wheelspin in second but I put that down to crappy tyres. On a plus side tuning is cheaper and you can get good gains from 8v engines most of the time and also being an 8v you done have to thrash it to much to get all the power out of it..

 

[ClioRT88]

isnt the 1.4 8v on the same level as the 1.2 16v ? in fact the 1.2 16v has a better top speed doesnt it ? 106mph and the 1.4 has a top of somehitng like 98mph ?

Viewing specifications of 1991 Renault Clio 1.4 RT

Max. output 81.1 PS (80.0 bhp) (59.7 kW)
@5750 rpm

0-100km/h 11.20s
Top speed 171 km/h (106 mph)
Power-to-weight 94.12 bhp/ton

Viewing specifications of 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v

Max. output
(DIN) 74 PS (73.0 bhp) (54.4 kW)
@5500 rpm

0-100km/h 13.00s
Top speed 170 km/h (106 mph)
Power-to-weight 81.11 bhp/ton


Very similar but think its more down to less weight in the 8v, still both slow as anything lol.

 

[r516vt]

Don't forget the mighty 1397cc. C1J OHV engine from the GT Turbo.

That wasn't a bad 8v engine!!!!!!

 

[mini-valver]

C16SE Vaxhall engine from the Nova Gsi or 13N from the SR's and Sports.....

 

[drhowser]

or the g60's. and to really get the most out of them, you don't even enlarge the exhaust valves.

 

[Michael172]

Don't forget the mighty 1397cc. C1J OHV engine from the GT Turbo.

That wasn't a bad 8v engine!!!!!!

id liek to see that with twin cams.
was a good engine though. turbo'd or not.

 

[mini-valver]

Then it would'nt be an 8v would it.

 

[Michael172]

obviously not.......thats the point.

im sorry but 16valves is the way forward lol.


when you get the St with a 2L and its got somehitng like 21 valves though, imagine that at low revs ?

 

[mini-valver]

ST? I'm presuming you mean focus? In which case it's a 5 cylinder Volvo engine

8 Valves are awesome fun!

 

[AhmedRSi]

i have a 1.2 8v... does the job fine. good engine, nippy around town and is more than capable on motorways (80 all the way to reading with 3 passengers) - glad i didnt go for a 1.2 16v as the newer shape mk2ph2's were quite a bit more than my mk2ph1... and its not like the 16v's are rockets. money well saved imho

 

[theduck]

im sorry but 16valves is the way forward lol.

16v isnt the way forward, is the current... Yes 8v technology is out dated, but still can produce some fantastic engines which is all we are trying to say.

You cant make sweeping statements about an engine being better or worse due to the number of Valves it has! As has been said, the mk2 golf gti, 8v was better than the 16v, same goes for the mk2 ibiza Cupra.

 

[gazbenger]

i had a mk1 1.2 8v and it was slightly quicker than the mk2 ph1 of my mates..barely. Another friend has a 1.1 saxo which was quicker to about 30 or something then fell behind

 

[AhmedRSi]

i had a mk1 1.2 8v and it was slightly quicker than the mk2 ph1 of my mates..barely. Another friend has a 1.1 saxo which was quicker to about 30 or something then fell behind

Isnt the mk2ph1 also 8v? :S

 

[theduck]

i had a mk1 1.2 8v and it was slightly quicker than the mk2 ph1 of my mates..barely. Another friend has a 1.1 saxo which was quicker to about 30 or something then fell behind

Isnt the mk2ph1 also 8v? :S

the later mk2 ph1 were 16v

 

[Ryan]

Isnt the 1.8RSI a good engine condering its a 8v...110bhp and 0-60 in 8.7 or something. Not bad I dont think.

Great engine that! Im not fussy tho lol

 

[Ryan]

the 1.2 16v clio is significantly quicker! lol

the 1.2 16v clio is significantly quicker! lol

Not according to parkers figures and my experience of driving both.



1.1 Saxo 1124/4 60HP 102MPH 12secs 0-60

1.2 16v Clio 1149/4 75HP 106MPH 12.6 0-60

haha, owned! lol