ABS on a Cup

[natcup]

Does anyone know if the option of ABS was available when you first bought your cup brand new?? Mine was pre registered with renault so i didnt get a choice. Ive seen a few adverts for used cups which state they have ABS....is this possible?

Just curious

 

[jon_r]

No.

 

[Fred@BTM]

it was never an option on the cup!! only option was aircon AFAIK

 

[natcup]

Ah so they must by lying .... bit cheeky when it comes to braking in the snow in their new cup and the brakes lock! another one bites the dust?

 

[Pete]

Nope wasnt an option.

 

[Neil82]

Quote: Originally posted by natcup on 18 November 2004


Ah so they must by lying .... bit cheeky when it comes to braking in the snow in their new cup and the brakes lock! another one bites the dust?




Rather have a car without ABS if I was driving in snow...

 

[jon_r]

Yup, me too.

 

[edgerfs]

ABS better in the rain though? I locked up my non abs 106 today at a zebra crossing. Fortunatley I wasnt cornering at the time so I still stopped at an acceptable level - nearly gave the granny at the crossing a heart attack tho

 

[blink172]

Does turning off the ESP turn off the ABS? But no ABS on the cup, and i believe its now required on all new cars. Might be talking out my arse, but the 182cup will have it

 

[Mondial172]

Policeman told me that if you brake hard in snow then it builds up under the locked wheels giving it a surface to stop on. Where as with ABS the wheels dont allow the build up to happen.

What about ice?

In rain ABS all the way

 

[KDF]

No, the two systems are completely different.

 

[jon_r]

182 Cup will have ABS. As you say all new cars have to have it now.

 

[viceroy]

Quote: Originally posted by Adamf on 18 November 2004


Policeman told me that if you brake hard in snow then it builds up under the locked wheels giving it a surface to stop on. Where as with ABS the wheels dont allow the build up to happen.

What about ice?


In rain ABS all the way





Never knew that about braking in snow...

Ice is a different story...you lock up and you dont stop...

 

[182_blue]

most cars i have ever owned had abs and i found them terrible in the snow, and not that good in the rain, your best bet is to not drive like an idiot when its wet or snowy (if you dont have abs), i never had a problem with my 172 cup

 

[Mondial172]

Thing is. Ive owned cars without ABS before (Metro,escort,cavalier) but the 172 Cup has such powerful brakes compared to them you cant just wack the pedal in the wet because youll lock. You need to be soft

 

[natcup]

Im bricking it when it comes to the snow, it will be the first time driving the cup this winter.. But your right, if I adapt to the conditions I should be alright. Braking early with plenty of time. I also just cant image it being easy to pull away with all that power....

 

[badinvincible]

ABS saved my b****cks last weekend when someone decided to cross over my path, I was about an inch away from the f**ker.

 

[182_blue]

Quote: Originally posted by natcup on 18 November 2004

Im bricking it when it comes to the snow, it will be the first time driving the cup this winter.. But your right, if I adapt to the conditions I should be alright. Braking early with plenty of time. I also just cant image it being easy to pull away with all that power....

yeh pulling away is a problem, but it is in most cars really, the best thing is to pull away in 2nd gear, this should help reduce spin.

i do have to say i feel a bit safer with abs, but like i say you just have to be carefull and slow down, abs is of no use whatsoever in the snow, all that happens is that the abs kicks in you get massive vibration from the brakes and you slide all over the place, total waste of time i the snow (i my experience)


[Edited by 182blue on 18 November 2004 at 8:05pm]

 

[Brazo]

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 18 November 2004

Does turning off the ESP turn off the ABS? But no ABS on the cup, and i believe its now required on all new cars. Might be talking out my arse, but the 182cup will have it

yep it does along with traction control, esp, air con, crusie control

Real luxory model

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 18 November 2004

Rather have a car without ABS if I was driving in snow...

Aye... but you can just pull the fuse...

 

[entjm]

in snow and ice the abs is crap because it senses that your locking up and relases the brakes. then when it lets you brake again it locks up so it keeps letting off the brakes an you roll unstoppably forwards. can be quite scary!

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 18 November 2004



Does turning off the ESP turn off the ABS?

No...

 

[Pete]

Ill be removing the fuse for the abs if it snows properly and will also turn the esp off as well, found the 172 almost undriveable in the snow last year, nearly ended up having a horrific 2mph accident due to the abs not letting me brake!!!