Piper cams £320
Catcams 438 or 421 £600
You won't see much difference in performance so you need to decide if you want to spend the extra £280 to say you've got catcams.
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Advise on aux belt/cambelt and future 428 cams
- Thread starter matt911
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Piper cams £320
Catcams 438 or 421 £600
You won't see much difference in performance so you need to decide if you want to spend the extra £280 to say you've got catcams.
Depends on what BTM are offering for a package deal if any pal
actually it is for me
I got quoted £180 from a specialist to have all my belts fitted and,dephaser pulley ,if I bought my own parts (£240),so it works out a lot cheaper for .. so all in is £420... I guess that is really stupid .. but if you can get it cheaper with Renault parts good luck to you..
Just as a quick reference have a look under the bonnet near the bonnet catch, I couldn't find my paperwork for belts and there was a sticker inside with the date and mileage showing full belts change Renault, not seen this before but still had them changed for piece of mind.
Regards Russ......
Thanks Russ il have a look first thing in the morning, i dont think i have it though.
What are the best cam's to use?
Also cambelt is due every 5 years- remember belts perish and age...
Sadly no sticker!
Best quote so far is £1445 with 428 cams. £1505 with 438 k tec only but i live so damn far from k tec
Best quote so far is £1445 with 428 cams. £1505 with 438 k tec only but i live so damn far from k tec
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Sadly no sticker!
Best quote so far is £1445 with 428 cams. £1505 with 438 k tec only but i live so damn far from k tec
I live close to ktec, and wouldn't personally let them fit/ map cams in my car.
Never heard of him, any good? I dont want no rookie...
and Belper mate. Long eaton does sound alot better though!Never heard of him, any good? I dont want no rookie...
He is the man, check our his Traders Section on the Forum... I could name 10+ people I personally know who can recommend his work.
If you are local there is no reason to travel any further.
Sadly no sticker!
Best quote so far is £1445 with 428 cams. £1505 with 438 k tec only but i live so damn far from k tec
Not read the whole thread, but I'd be getting the whole lot done now, as soon as possible. If your belt is over due it could snap at any minute.
I bought my 438 cams from K-Tec (£600 I think), I paid a specialist (MWM) to do a full cam belt change and fit the cams (£450), I then paid MWM for mapping (£300).
buy the cams yourself, take them to your local specialist to fit whilst doing a full cam belt change. Then take to Paul at RS-Tuning for mapping (Assuming he is the closest decent mapper)
Ive sent off for a quote cheers. Ive got £1255 inc VAT from Four ashes and thats with the 438 cams. But no remap.
Need this done yesterday.
You have to remember that fitting cams is pointless unless you have it remapped, it'll affect mpg and won't be a lot quicker without a map. So as Gray and Martin have said you'll need to factor in £300-400 for mapping them also. But it could wait a month or so I'd have thought before doing it so it doesn't become too costly.
Nick
Nick
Four Ashes is looking good so far, giving me a free courtesy car too. Il just have to find a remapper close by afterwards.
Get the belts and cams fitted at Diamond Motors, Long Eaton.
Don't drive like a tool with cams fitted and the car unmapped, keep revs below 4K.
Get the car mapped at RStuning, Leeds.
It cannot get much simpler than that.
Never heard of them myself so can't comment. But is there any reason why you want to take it there over the specialists mentioned, BTM or Diamond Motors??
Tim.
ClioSport Club Member
Matt,
As has already been said, you need to get your belts done asap and given this forum has a huge number of experienced members I'd take their advice and get it booked in with a reputable, trusted & highly-regarded local RenaultSport specialist like Mick at Diamond Motors. Can you afford to take it elsewhere if they f**k the job up?
As for cams, if you can afford it then get Mick to fit these at the same time then take a trip to your nearest reputable & experienced RenaultSport mapper - Paul at RSTuning in Leeds.
The advice here is pretty clear, hopefully you get your car sorted before you experience any catastrophic failure. Taking any course of action other than that outlined here is a risk you're welcome to take, but if it was me I just wouldn't bother taking it anywhere else, even if it was cheaper.
As has already been said, you need to get your belts done asap and given this forum has a huge number of experienced members I'd take their advice and get it booked in with a reputable, trusted & highly-regarded local RenaultSport specialist like Mick at Diamond Motors. Can you afford to take it elsewhere if they f**k the job up?
As for cams, if you can afford it then get Mick to fit these at the same time then take a trip to your nearest reputable & experienced RenaultSport mapper - Paul at RSTuning in Leeds.
The advice here is pretty clear, hopefully you get your car sorted before you experience any catastrophic failure. Taking any course of action other than that outlined here is a risk you're welcome to take, but if it was me I just wouldn't bother taking it anywhere else, even if it was cheaper.
Im still awaiting Diamond to get back to me, wouldnt give me an answer over the phone so i will let you know. and BTM wont answer the phone Lol
Inferno 225 cup
It really can't.
Alright chill lol i know what needs to be done, just going through quotes. I didnt expect to be forking out for this so soon.
Eagerly waiting for Diamond though.
Eagerly waiting for Diamond though.
sbridgey
ClioSport Club Member
disco 4, 182, Meglio
Pretty sure that was Fred, I believe the cams were "GT cams".
Anyone got GT cams fitted or have any experience?
davo172
ClioSport Club Member
TCR'd 172
Saw one run at our rolling road day last year with GT cams it made less power than a couple of the other cars with other mods without cams .
Sadly no sticker!
Best quote so far is £1445 with 428 cams. £1505 with 438 k tec only but i live so damn far from k tec
I paid about £1000 all in for belts, dephaser, Piper cams and a remap at RS tuning in Leeds
Piper cams are cheaper right, but the £1445 was from RS Tuning also. Lucky fellow.
Im gonna be buying the cams then taking them to Diamond, going for 438 and i might add some matched inlets and a KTR induction to the mix.
If im gonna be out of pocket, i may aswell be out of pocket with some style.
Inferno 225 cup
You looking for big power or nice smooth delivery of power?
I've got 197 cams and it's transformed the car, pulls strong and sounds awesome.
I've got 197 cams and it's transformed the car, pulls strong and sounds awesome.
182
This.
Well big power, but to a point of £. As long as the idle is ok too.
Do you have any videos of your car with the cams in?
Cub.
ClioSport Moderator
The 438s are good cams. And as long as you are getting them mapped by someone with a brain they will make a noticeable power increase. Mine were great. My mapping, not so.
You are in good hands with Mick though.
You are in good hands with Mick though.
Aye il be straight up to Mick once im done. My question now is buy Ported inlets or K tec induction before the remap. On a 182 i dont think inlets are worth it unlike a 172.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Depends if the inlets in your 182 are RS stamped ones. Otherwise IIRC they're identical to a Mk2 172.
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