Another entry into 200+ (RS2&197)

[Michael Woodford MST]

Our results seem to be consistent.

Spec:-
RS2
197 cams on Michael Woodford Motorsport timing
182 exhaust manifold
Decat
Cat back

 

[Aydon182]

So what if I want 438's & a RS2, we talking higher torque with the cams and the inlet will hold onto that torque? A consistent spread of 160lbft would be nice with a peak of 210bhp ?

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

You'd run the standard injectors out!

 

[imprezaworks]

Here we go again lol, another million page thread.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Here we go again lol, another million page thread.

I made this one in hope we could have useful, informative, discussions without the likes of YeeCup turning it into a rubbish filled mess!

 

[imprezaworks]

Wont happen im afrad.

 

[Paul172sport]

Well done cracking graphs bet it drives great.

 

[The Russian.]

Our results seem to be consistent.

Spec:-
RS2
197 cams on Michael Woodford Motorsport timing
182 exhaust manifold
Decat
Cat back

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What's the cost of this setup? Just to clear it now, rather than a s**t load of people spamming it with s**t.

 

[-J-]

Mike, the torque looks to be sitting at 140lbft is this down to the cams or does the PH1 not perform the same as 172 cup for arguments sake?

As in the standard cams mine seems to sit at 150lbft?

Unless I'm reading the graphs wrong?

 

[Laine_16v]

140ft lb's nice that must be the 1.4L engine?

/troll

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

140ft lb's nice that must be the 1.4L engine?

/troll

Nice reply! You must be 14??

 

[Chip-mk1]

-j- the midrange on mikes was neer quite finished in the map, was running 12 flat afr, only reason it saw the dyno today was cause he is just about to remove the rs2 to sell, would have made about 145 I would expect.

 

[-J-]

-j- the midrange on mikes was neer quite finished in the map, was running 12 flat afr, only reason it saw the dyno today was cause he is just about to remove the rs2 to sell, would have made about 145 I would expect.

Ah got you, so a few more tweaks of the mapping and it would have been up around where mine is

 

[Chip-mk1]

Ah got you, so a few more tweaks of the mapping and it would have been up around where mine is

Probably only halfway to yours mate, yours is particularly good and these engines do vary.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Ah got you, so a few more tweaks of the mapping and it would have been up around where mine is

Jay,

That was on a map I literally spent 10mins on just to dyno it. Ill post the AFR graph so you can see where it will make more power.

Tims brought the RS2 off me so I just did a rush attempt to get a dyno figure.

 

[Aydon182]

Why you selling your RS2 then?

 

[Mar172]

It's sold and I wished I had brought it

 

[Aydon182]

Brought it where?

 

[-J-]

Jay,

That was on a map I literally spent 10mins on just to dyno it. Ill post the AFR graph so you can see where it will make more power.

Tims brought the RS2 off me so I just did a rush attempt to get a dyno figure.

Nice one, I've got a set of 197 Cams here ready to go in mine when the belts due.

 

[Mar172]

Read the thread in post 15 it's at the bottom

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Why you selling your RS2 then?

Because I don't use the car as a daily anymore.

 

[Laine_16v]

Nice reply! You must be 14??

Ah come on, lighten up its only a bit of banter!

 

[aucky]

Mike, the torque looks to be sitting at 140lbft is this down to the cams or does the PH1 not perform the same as 172 cup for arguments sake?

As in the standard cams mine seems to sit at 150lbft?

Unless I'm reading the graphs wrong?

140lbft in the lower mid-range and upwards, 147lbft peak.

Ah come on, lighten up its only a bit of banter!

Piss off to general chat then.

 

[sprintcup]

Is there much difference between DBW and cable throttle with the problematic delay you get on DBW, looking at the results I'd say they are great for a road car and a blast on a track day.

Regards Russ....

 

[Chip-mk1]

Brought it where?

Oh grow up, clearly he means bought. Join a spelling forum if you want to chat about the finer details of the English language.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

What's the cost of this setup? Just to clear it now, rather than a s**t load of people spamming it with s**t.

RS2- £1000
197 cams- £150ish
Belt kits £180
Decat- £70
Exhaust £200
Mapping £300

Based if you do the labour yourself.

 

[The Russian.]

This site winds me up, generally nice knowledgable people have posted in this thread, whys it always ruined by people that nitpick and pick up on grammar errors and just act like general tits!!

The other thread got ruined, please don't do this one.

Thanks for the prices mate, appreciate it.

 

[aucky]

RS2- £1000
197 cams- £150ish
Belt kits £180
Decat- £70
Exhaust £200
Mapping £300

Based if you do the labour yourself.

And uprated engine mounts if required.

 

[The Russian.]

Was the group buy thing a joke on the other thread or is it possible to make more?

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Lower Polyflex! Mine hasn't got the uppers.

 

[Richyy182]

This site winds me up, generally nice knowledgable people have posted in this thread, whys it always ruined by people that nitpick and pick up on grammar errors and just act like general tits!!

The other thread got ruined, please don't do this one.

Thanks for the prices mate, appreciate it.

This place has some (fill in the blanks)

 

[leeds_182]

RS2- £1000
197 cams- £150ish
Belt kits £180
Decat- £70
Exhaust £200
Mapping £300

Based if you do the labour yourself.

Just shows how expensive Clio tuning is really but still nice to have a 200bhp na 172 / 182.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Tbh I don't think you could go faster for the cash with a Clio.

 

[Gray]

Strong results, great work!

Clearly the RS2 does work.

 

[Nick172Cup]

Glad that when you text me earlier it cracked the 200bhp! My old engine this is, must have above 120k now and proving how strong these engines are when maintained properly! And obviously not forgetting Mikes handywork helped make the figures!

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Glad that when you text me earlier it cracked the 200bhp! My old engine this is, must have above 120k now and proving how strong these engines are when maintained properly! And obviously not forgetting Mikes handywork helped make the figures!

I've put 30k on that engine. What was it on when it was removed from your cup?

 

[Nick172Cup]

I've put 30k on that engine. What was it on when it was removed from your cup?

Lol, think it was between 110-115k. May have been more but I honestly cant remember! So 140k on the clock with 200bhp is impressive!

 

[at3k-]

Nice results, congrats!

 

[Aydon182]

Tbh I don't think you could go faster for the cash with a Clio.

Thats exactly the problem to be honest, clio's are good value for money how they come out the box, after owning 3 clio's now including the turbo I bought off you I'd rather go elsewhere now, next project being a zlet corsa. The money you spend getting such small gains just isn't worth it.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Lesley's is on 150k now although I did fit some new rings when the Cambelt failed as seemed silly not to while the head was off. Her exhaust is more restrictive than dan/mike have but I'm sure even with the quiet exhaust and cat on it must be around 190-195.