Clio 197 cup pack
what the title says really,notice much difference? Any tips or advice because im lokin at a 197
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any1 gone from a 172 to a 197?
- Thread starter Windy172cup
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Clio 197 cup pack
had a lok at the poll going at the min,and seems the mk 2 is favorite. Is that b cos theres more on here then the 197?
Golf 7R
I went from a 172 Cup to a 197. It was the best move i ever made, and have never looked back since!
Golf 7R
Oh for sure. Only as a second car though, and i'd strip it, mod it, and track it! I also agree about the best Mk2 though, but let's not open that can of worms.
Renault Clio 172 Ph2
I had 182, 172, 197 and now another 172. but it was a good move, the 197 is improved in all areas except straight line punch. defo nice all round step up.
Steve
ClioSport Club Member
ST3 8.5
Exactly & where is the fun in straight lines.
Keeping your foot in, down craner curves is where it's at
i have a 182ff and drove my friends new f1 r27 and you know what? dissapointed. just doesnt seem to pull anywhere near as fast as my 182, feels like it just doesnt want to release the power! i really wanted to like it but just couldnt. very accurate steering but feels heavy and sluggish, dont rate it at all over 1*2's.
VRS, 200CUP, S1
my172 cup was faster and better in corners (only due to coilovers) until it went bang. have just picked up a 197 and it is far more comfortable to drive, mainly due to it being 200kg heavier! but if you have to accommodate any kind of passengers then 197. totally up to you and your needs for the car......
Audi TT Stronic
Well,
I've went from a 172, to a 182, to a 197.
All I can say is wow ! I will try to be objective about this when comparing the 197 to the 172/182 but this is all just IMO
Pro's
More comfortable
Seats that actually hold you in the corners (Recaro's)
Superb build quality.
Epic handling.. absolutely pisses over my 172 and my cup pack'd 182 (and I 100% mean pisses !)
Brilliant driving position mainly due to decents seats and height/reach adjustment on steering.
Brilliant 6 speed gearbox with close ratio's and short shift changes. I no longer feel like i'm stirring porridge (and no there was nothing wrong the gearbox in my 172/182)!!
Keyless entry and engine start/stop button.
Looks brilliant, parking one of them next to a 172/182 really shows just how dated they are.
Just rev's and the power delivery is so smooth. I can see when people think they are not as quick as the 172/182 but look a quick look at the speedo proves otherwise !
Engine makes a great noise, the 172/182 sounded terrible in comparison.
Con's
Fuel economy - the 172/182 definitely gave better mpg.
Slightly higher rpm's at motorway speeds.
I would say with the 197's extra weight straight line it would be very close indeed, but could see the older models edging ahead. As said previously, handling wise there is no comparison, the older models would be embarrassed plain and simple.
Ultimately, would I ever consider going back to a 172/182 ? not a chance in hell ! Renault have made massive leaps and bounds in the jump to the 197 I cannot stress just how good a car it is.
I've went from a 172, to a 182, to a 197.
All I can say is wow ! I will try to be objective about this when comparing the 197 to the 172/182 but this is all just IMO
Pro's
More comfortable
Seats that actually hold you in the corners (Recaro's)
Superb build quality.
Epic handling.. absolutely pisses over my 172 and my cup pack'd 182 (and I 100% mean pisses !)
Brilliant driving position mainly due to decents seats and height/reach adjustment on steering.
Brilliant 6 speed gearbox with close ratio's and short shift changes. I no longer feel like i'm stirring porridge (and no there was nothing wrong the gearbox in my 172/182)!!
Keyless entry and engine start/stop button.
Looks brilliant, parking one of them next to a 172/182 really shows just how dated they are.
Just rev's and the power delivery is so smooth. I can see when people think they are not as quick as the 172/182 but look a quick look at the speedo proves otherwise !
Engine makes a great noise, the 172/182 sounded terrible in comparison.
Con's
Fuel economy - the 172/182 definitely gave better mpg.
Slightly higher rpm's at motorway speeds.
I would say with the 197's extra weight straight line it would be very close indeed, but could see the older models edging ahead. As said previously, handling wise there is no comparison, the older models would be embarrassed plain and simple.
Ultimately, would I ever consider going back to a 172/182 ? not a chance in hell ! Renault have made massive leaps and bounds in the jump to the 197 I cannot stress just how good a car it is.
