Attemping boosted ph1

[Chip-mk1]

Does it go rich or lean when it happens? or do you not have a wideband?

 

[danh90]

I don't have a wideband chip it does smell rich though if that makes sense

 

[danh90]

Had a fiddle about with the car this morning sorted oil return tightened dogbone as could feel abit of play and re hung my exhaust middle hanger was off wondered why it caught every single bump...

Then onto the coilovers basically they were stiff as s**t and propa struggled to move them

Gave them a propa rub down with wire brush cleaned em all up and I can now move completely free by hand also looks alot cleaner

Chucked the spacers back on aswell and tried setting the camber dunno if did it right (boat level on disk) lol oh well do until get it set up

 

[danh90]

Anyone any ideas why I'd be using a fair bit of water is this normal after a conversion or....

There's no leak puddles anywhere and no signs of water leaking from any pipes??

 

[Chip-mk1]

I don't have a wideband chip it does smell rich though if that makes sense

Wouldn't go by that. If a car stalls from being too lean it still smells of the unburnt fuel.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Anyone any ideas why I'd be using a fair bit of water is this normal after a conversion or....

There's no leak puddles anywhere and no signs of water leaking from any pipes??

Sometimes you have air locks that need to get their way out. If it keeps happening though its either a leak, a knackered turbo, a cracked block, a cracked head or a blown head gasket.

 

[danh90]

Right ill keep an eye then over next few week.. I topped it upto max on sunday and its about half way down now already,, Cant be head gasket surely as it had a new one about 2 week ago

Wasnt leaking a drop before the turbo was up and running..

 

[Russ_16v]

Bear in mind I have had about 6 172's now that if I topped the bottle up to max, it would vent some out until it was just above minimum, then stayed there lol - good old french.

So keep checking it, but i'd lay a bet it will settle to a level where it won't move again

 

[Chip-mk1]

Head gasket on these engines almost never go. Was just saying what was possible. My money is on an airlock that's now gone or it is leaking even though you say it isn't.

 

[danh90]

Hopefully just an airlock then.. will keep an eye.

Also while fiddling about noticed the actuator pipe scoff had fitted was ever so tight and had split on the actuator end so sorted that..

It was driving abit funny when nailing it on a drive the other day as though was struggling to deliver the full power im wondering if that was to do with the split in the pipe causing a leak

 

[Chip-mk1]

Split in that pipe means more boost. Which means visiting a bit of the map that hasn't been mapped yet. Would imagine scoff has populated with mega rich values just in case. That would make it hesitant.
i need to do a bit more mapping of mine on the road as it hits sites it wouldn't quite pull on the rollers (more cooler air and longer spool time).

 

[danh90]

Fitted that new actuator pipe and seems to be driving/boosting fine now..

The start issue I start it first time it cuts out straight away then fires and runs second time perfect.. Strange one might just leave it ATM

 

[Chip-mk1]

If thats your biggest issue then thats pretty good at this stage

Then just arrange to leave it with scoff for a few days to sort in future.

 

[danh90]

Yeah engine wise it's sound just this bleeding steering issue doing my head in now!!

 

[Baz-ESD]

That starting problem happens on my standard 172 after ive had the battery disconnected if that means anything to you? I know nothing about engines so probably useless info lol.

 

[danh90]

Nah mate nothing to do with battery that's fine.. Just a ecu/mapping issue no biggy though

 

[danh90]

 

[Chip-mk1]

Does the fuel pump prime for a few seconds when you turn the key to the on position before you start it by the way?

 

[danh90]

Ill have a check when get in from work..

Btw chip you couldn't do me a favour and have a look at that video I've done of my steering problem in my fault thread.. Appreciate it if you could as no doubt you'll have an idea

 

[Chip-mk1]

Give me a link mate, not seen that one.

Ive no sound on this machine though.

 

[danh90]

Ahh right you'll need sound just whenever you've got 5 have a browse..

Only way I can describe is a knock and a squelching from the rack :/

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=685528

 

[Chip-mk1]

Squelching sounds like rack bushes, get it in the air and check them.
Knock could also be those, or could be the rack itself.

 

[danh90]

Had it on the stands last night. The squelching is coming from the bush your right but they look spot on no leaking ect or is there not always visual signs mate

 

[Chip-mk1]

Will be visible movement if they are gone, but only when under load.

 

[danh90]

Ill get it up on stands tonight again and double check but the noise is definitely coming from the drivers rack bush it sounds like water gushing about..

 

[Chip-mk1]

replace it then

 

[danh90]

I'm going to replace both rods and bushes least it's all done then..

Fitting my ph2 dash this weekend so that should be fun

 

[danh90]

I take it the rack bush is inside the gaiter on the rod?

Sorry if that's obvious never done one of these before

 

[BIGASH]

I take it the rack bush is inside the gaiter on the rod?

Sorry if that's obvious never done one of these before

No Dan its not, the rack bushes are under the metal clamps that hold the rack to the subframe.

 

[danh90]

Ah right. The squelching noise from my rack is coming from inside the gaiter

 

[Chip-mk1]

Thats just the grease in the gaitor probably then! I thought you meant from oil in the rubber bush, lol, this is the problem with taking people on the internet as knowing what they mean when describing something!

 

[danh90]

Sorry for that then just my lack of mechanical knowledge showing there..

 

[Chip-mk1]

get a lever bar in and try and move the rack about and see if there are play in the bushes

 

[danh90]

Will give it all a good checking over now I know what's what.. Is there grease inside the gaiter then like there is the driveshafts?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Yes there is.

The inner joint on the track rod requires lubrication.

 

[MG cup]

Chip the cliosport steering racks aren't wet lubricated on the outside, in fact I can't think of any racks that are externally lubricated. Your seals have gone if there is any dampness inside that gator. There will be a small amount of grease on the splined part that the pinion meshes with but not dripping in it like a driveshaft.

When you say it sounds like water moving about, I know what you mean, I think your rack is goosed or getting there.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Chip the cliosport steering racks aren't wet lubricated on the outside,

They are greased on the joints on the rods, they just arent in the way that a williams is where there is so much lubrication there there is a balance pipe to allow it to move around, lol.

 

[danh90]

Will get a better video tonight and post it up in here exactly where it's from.. Would you always buy new when getting a rack or is there no problem with a good second hand one

 

[Chip-mk1]

Ive just got a decent secondhand rack of Mike at MWM for my mrs car as her rack as got quite bad, was hoping to fit this weekend but am now going to be stuck in a conference in london all weekend so I am hoping Danlp6 will bail me out by fitting it for us at short notice, as I really would prefer her not to do another trackday on the current one so am happy to book in and pay for labour for once even though we try to do most things ourselves normally.

 

[danh90]

I was just about to message mike aswell as I've just bought some other bits off him..

Be glad at end of April when this becomes my weekend car getting annoying as a daily now lol