Battery relocation advise/shopping list

[Wests Renault]

Looking to relocate my battery to the boot to make space for my espace V6 airbox setup.

Can someone make me a shopping list of what I will need and the best places to source the parts.

I'm guessing:

• Cable
• Battery tray
• Fixings
• Fuses

I have done a search but couldn't all the info I needed

Tom

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Another timley thread , need the same info myself

So far I've got an oddyssey 25 & alloy bracket....on my list...or are there lower amp batteries that'll do the job just fine?

What about a cut off switch?


There is a guide I've found here not sure if it lists all the parts though.

 

[daveski]

I also want to do this so will use this as a guide for when I come to do it in the new year.

 

[LewisTaylor]

And me to lol something I was planning on doing over christmas, again I could do with knowing what parts are required

 

[daveski]

Gray recommended this place to me when I spoke to him about it before - http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/cable/batterycable.php

Basically its a junction box from something like a E36 BMW, a race battery, cage and suitable wiring.

 

[Naith]

i'll be doing it to the megane over xmas, although i'll be binning the race battery off as it holds it charge like Winehouse held a drink.

 

[dmallett]

Kinda on subject, are the odyssey batterys ok for a daily? Like i do under 50miles a week
Also if you put your battery under your seat, how would you go about jumping the car if the battery goes flat? (without removing the seat)

If you couldnt tell, i also want to move my battery

 

[Wests Renault]

I'm thinking I may invested in an Odyssey 25 battery when I do the relocation too, my current battery is on its last legs

 

[Jonny1*2]

Read my guide

Trickle chargers are a must for race batteries btw

 

[dmallett]

Could probably organise a group buy! I have no idea how you go about doing that sort of thing though

 

[LewisTaylor]

I'm thinking I may invested in an Odyssey 25 battery when I do the relocation too, my current battery is on its last legs

+1 had to jump start my car yesterday after only leaving it 4 days :/

dan sort out a group buy i'd be on it

 

[dmallett]

Someone confirm this is the battery people normally use,
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motor...dyssey_Extreme_Racing_25_Battery/1447/0/14627

 

[LewisTaylor]

yes thats it, although ebay can be had for £95 inc p&p http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Odyssey-E...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a165c0dcc

 

[shell-vt]

yer this is what i used and will use again slimline drycell.. i need full kit again.. group buy would be a good idea, i still have my fuse but need wire & connecters..

 

[dmallett]

Ive asked a few questions, ill see if we can get some lower prices for a bulk order

 

[BIGASH]

How would you go about jumping the car if the battery goes flat? (without removing the seat)

I have read that you are not supposed to jump start these type of batteries so I would suggest to keep it on trickle charge/ disconnect when not in use. If you leave discharged it isn't good for them on a positive they are very quick to fully charge and only take 4-5 hours

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Just ordered one of these a few hours ago , ebay link seems I should've hung on for a bit if there's a group buy coming....

 

[dmallett]

I have read that you are not supposed to jump start these type of batteries so I would suggest to keep it on trickle charge/ disconnect when not in use. If you leave discharged it isn't good for them on a positive they are very quick to fully charge and only take 4-5 hours

Ahh ok then, would it damage to bump the car on these batteries then? lol.
Just thinking the car does get used most days, but literally only for like 10miles a day maximum during the week.

 

[M4D M4X]

You could do with one of these in the engine bay for the poss cable.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motor...rs/Auto_Marine_Power_Jointing_Boxes/1283/1294

You don't need fuses just the stuff bellow
1 junction box (engine bay)
2 thick Possitive cable with a rubber grommet to pass through the bulk head.
3 thick earth cable (don't need to be long)
4 2x battery terminals
5 box or strap to hold your battery in place

Or you could fit a isolator (this will allow you to cut the power)

 

[Chris_786]

If there is a group buy on the complete kit (I.e. everything you need to relocate the battery) then I might be interested!

 

[dmallett]

If i can sort a group buy, it will only be on batteries most probably.

 

[BIGASH]

Ahh ok then, would it damage to bump the car on these batteries then? lol.
Just thinking the car does get used most days, but literally only for like 10miles a day maximum during the week.

I presume so but I am only saying what I have read from the manufacturer There would be no simple way to jump start anyway as they dont have traditional terminals on the top of the battery like wet batteries. I would just use a trickle charge on it which take less than 10 seconds to hook up each time you go out in the car, We have these fitted to alot of our cars and I fit them for quite a few of my customers http://www.ctekchargers.co.uk/ctek-xs3600.php The link to the terminal box that M4D M4X has put up is what is used on my clio to relocate the battery and can put up a picture of where its located if it will help?

 

[Toastfrenzy]

If i can sort a group buy, it will only be on batteries most probably.

My Ebay seller has just cancelled my battery order...? So up for a group buy now. What details have you got so far and have you started a Group Buy thread?

 

[Toastfrenzy]

You could do with one of these in the engine bay for the poss cable.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motor...rs/Auto_Marine_Power_Jointing_Boxes/1283/1294

3 way or 2 way?

 

[M4D M4X]

3 way or 2 way?

2 way dude.
All the terminals that sit on your existing battery (+side) would bolt on the one side of this and your poss cable running to your boot will bolt on the other side.

 

[M4D M4X]

Here you go Toastfrenzy

 

[shell-vt]

battery usually retail at £90 to 100 unless im out of date..

 

[dmallett]

My Ebay seller has just cancelled my battery order...? So up for a group buy now. What details have you got so far and have you started a Group Buy thread?

Contacted a few people on ebay/online shops asking for bulk buy prices of orders placed of 5batteries, 10batteries etc.
I wont start nothing until/if i get any prices sorted out and the seller is willing to sort the postage etc.

Ill see what happens tomorrow with replies, if not much luck ill make some phone calls this weekend as im off work and go from there

 

[Toastfrenzy]

Here you go Toastfrenzy

Ah...good pic cheers

battery usually retail at £90 to 100 unless im out of date..

The ebay one was 85 plus 9 postage, he's actually emailed me saying stock now been confirmed in 7days...asked him for a uint price if he sold 5\ 10 and what he could do on the shipping cost. See what he says.

 

[dmallett]

Yerr i have a few replies asking for a few days to get prices, so ill report back when i hear

 

[172Ben]

Underneath passenger seat or at least behind is best for weight balance mark fish advised me.

 

[DannyR]

Got my dad to build a box for me, to fit a 063 battery.

Could see if we could get a load made?

 

[BIGASH]

We have mounted mine on the bulkhead in the passenger footwell and while putting it in the back is good for weight distribution as mentioned above it also means you have got a very heavy cable stretching the length of the car. It's swings and roundabouts where you mount it really

 

[Dink]

You could do with one of these in the engine bay for the poss cable.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motor...rs/Auto_Marine_Power_Jointing_Boxes/1283/1294

You don't need fuses just the stuff bellow
1 junction box (engine bay)
2 thick Possitive cable with a rubber grommet to pass through the bulk head.
3 thick earth cable (don't need to be long)
4 2x battery terminals
5 box or strap to hold your battery in place

Or you could fit a isolator (this will allow you to cut the power)

serious? No fuses?

IMHO that is some bad advice there.

 

[M4D M4X]

What i'm going to do with mine (fully stripped shell) is place the battery standing up at the rear of the of the Exhaust tunnel (behind the seats) and use a alloy bracket to hold it in place, this will also allow the cable to run in the centre of the car so good for centre weight distribution.

Here's the bracket i'll be using.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=200648329879&kw=200648329879

Sorry of its hard to understand

 

[M4D M4X]

serious? No fuses?

IMHO that is some bad advice there.

Why do you need fuses?

All your effectively doing is extending the Possitive cable.

 

[Dink]

Why do you need fuses then?

All your effectively doing is extending the Possitive cable.

you get a fault to ground on that cable and all it will do is melt/catch fire/battery explode

fuses are installed only ever to protect cables and nothing else

 

[M4D M4X]

you get a fault to ground on that cable and all it will do is melt/catch fire/battery explode

fuses are installed only ever to protect cables and nothing else

Yes but the only way u'l ever get that fault to ground (or short) if it ever slices the plastic protective coating am i right?

And if that's the case do the standard wires in the engine bay have fuses in?

 

[172Ben]

There is a fuse in the standard wire

 

[M4D M4X]

Cheers 172ben

Surely it will pop the fuse in the standard wire 1st.