Best coilovers for a 172 cup, £500 ish budget?

[Craigy88]

I'm no stranger to coilovers and suspension, but would like to know people's opinions on there set ups and longevity.

I have a 172 cup 53 plate and il be doing a complete suspension refresh with bushes, arb bushes, ball joints etc etc....

Possible solid top mounts depending on the suspension set up.

I have eibach springs on cup dampers or what should be cup dampers but il be doing more track days and fast road use than anything as I have another car my a8 for daily use.

Where do I get a decent set up from and is there a recommended seller on here?

I'm on a budget as I don't want to get carried away but I don't want to settle for bad quality.

Any help guys?

 

[Russ_16v]

Id be stretching a bit more for Bilstein B14's

Or Gaz/Spax are also good

 

[JohnnyE]

I have BilsteinB14's on mine they are awesome

 

[Craigy88]

I have BilsteinB14's on mine they are awesome

Yeah I had them on my Audi TT Quattro sport 240.

Brilliant but not in my budget unfortunately.

 

[MarkX]

Yeah I had them on my Audi TT Quattro sport 240.

Brilliant but not in my budget unfortunately.

order them from here, a few on here have and they work out ~£500 delivered.
http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/B...I-BB0-1-2-CB0-1-2-20-16V-Sport-CB0M-47-087750
I'd have cooksport springs and new standard dampers over anything but the billies around that price.

 

[imprezaworks]

B14's are ace. Or the cup dampers on h&r springs?

@bloke

 

[Craigy88]

B14's are ace. Or the cup dampers on h&r springs?

@bloke

Yeah well I have eibach springs and cup dampers now but I feel it roll about when going for it.

Plus I have the facility's to get corner weighted and that so coilovers would be the way to go.

The site for the Billy's looks beyond difficult to navigate in another language lol.

Is there differences between cup and non cup 172s?
I've seen a few top mount sizes I think for cup and non cup models?

 

[imprezaworks]

I've not ordered from there mate, others have and as far as I'm aware it's fine. Anyway you can google translate the web page.

If you have access to corner weighting and do want to get into tracjdays the coilovers it is. My only advice is don't buy cheap s**t ones. Even if you have to weight a month do that.

On the cd front though I see someone has made a reasonable ish offer. And after the advice above I'd be inclined to accept .

 

[DannyR]

What will you be using the car for, do you need coilovers?

Standard cup setup, cooksport springs, new top mounts and rubbers, ball joints and track rod ends should be around the £500 and will be far superior than any coilovers.

 

[MarkX]

Yeah well I have eibach springs and cup dampers now but I feel it roll about when going for it.

Plus I have the facility's to get corner weighted and that so coilovers would be the way to go.

The site for the Billy's looks beyond difficult to navigate in another language lol.

Is there differences between cup and non cup 172s?
I've seen a few top mount sizes I think for cup and non cup models?

There's an English tab at the top for ordering, pretty simple, I almost did before a cheap set of ASTs appeared on here
I have full set of cup dampers, Pms top mounts, front spring cups, bump stops and cooksport springs, all are 6 track days old if interested?!

 

[imprezaworks]

Set up right there

 

[Dave_172Cup]

I have full set of cup dampers, Pms top mounts, front spring cups, bump stops and cooksport springs, all are 6 track days old if interested?!

I'd be interested in those without the top mounts mate.
I want to remove my Gaz coilovers which could interest the OP?

 

[Craigy88]

I've not ordered from there mate, others have and as far as I'm aware it's fine. Anyway you can google translate the web page.

If you have access to corner weighting and do want to get into tracjdays the coilovers it is. My only advice is don't buy cheap s**t ones. Even if you have to weight a month do that.

On the cd front though I see someone has made a reasonable ish offer. And after the advice above I'd be inclined to accept :wink:.

Yeah mainly track days and fast road use as its my second car so can be harsh if need be.

I want to corner weight it so it needs to be coilovers, I've got the cup setup and springs already and I'm not feeling them, probably age related but they hold there own and it's still pretty crisp but just feel it could be better.

Send me a message you can have the headunit lol.

 

[Craigy88]

I'd be interested in those without the top mounts mate.
I want to remove my Gaz coilovers which could interest the OP?

Heard bad reviews on gaz so no thank you.

 

[MarkX]

I'd be interested in those without the top mounts mate.
I want to remove my Gaz coilovers which could interest the OP?

I'll get the top mounts off and send you some pics

 

[MrDave]

Im after some cooksports pm please if you're selling.

 

[Kyle 86]

B14's FTW i love mine
Massive improvement over my old V-Maxx

 

[Rawhide]

B14's FTW i love mine
Massive improvement over my old V-Maxx

Another vote for B14s here. I love them. Comfy fast road setup. Work really well and the lack of ability to 'fiddle' is a bonus for me as I would obsess about whether my car was setup optimally whenever I drove otherwise.

 

[masekwm]

order them from here, a few on here have and they work out ~£500 delivered.
http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/B...I-BB0-1-2-CB0-1-2-20-16V-Sport-CB0M-47-087750
I'd have cooksport springs and new standard dampers over anything but the billies around that price.

I used them, came within a week. I then changed my mind and kept my Cup & Cooksport combo so sold them for what I paid.

 

[Craigy88]

I used them, came within a week. I then changed my mind and kept my Cup & Cooksport combo so sold them for what I paid.

Why you change your mind mate?

Surely the Billy's are better?

 

[Craigy88]

I was looking at the space rsx kit......

Can get them for a good price from demon tweeks through work.

Any thoughts on them?

 

[Russ_16v]

What price are they doing them for mate? Let me know, I'll see what price I can do

 

[masekwm]

Why you change your mind mate?

Surely the Billy's are better?

They are, but for a car which does a couple of track days and fast road, I decided that it was a little overkill.

 

[Russ_16v]

I did have some KW V2 coilovers on a Ph1 Exclusive I had years ago and being honest it was really comfortable - stiffer than standard but if kept at a sensible setting they were comfortable and improved handling. But then again they were £1100 so you would expect it lol

 

[DannyR]

KW v1s at a sensible height are ultra comfortable too

 

[loggyboy]

Heard bad reviews on gaz so no thank you.

Don't believe everything you read. bad reviews, no matter how bias are usuallt the only thing that people right up about, you can find bad reviews for anything, even Renaulsport clios!
They are a quality set up and have improved a lot in last few years.

 

[rams_clio]

Don't believe everything you read. bad reviews, no matter how bias are usuallt the only thing that people right up about, you can find bad reviews for anything, even Renaulsport clios!
They are a quality set up and have improved a lot in last few years.

Can't knock mine.

 

[DannyR]

No, bet they'll knock soon enough

 

[Craigy88]

Don't believe everything you read. bad reviews, no matter how bias are usuallt the only thing that people right up about, you can find bad reviews for anything, even Renaulsport clios!
They are a quality set up and have improved a lot in last few years.

My best mate had them on his vtec mini and changed them immediately said they was horrid, I just searched gaz coilovers and only found bad reviews so might get the Billy's or spax rsx depending on price.

My next question is who is the best person to use for all of my other replacement parts, I always change my bolts and nuts when replacing suspension so would like to get fresh everything and ball joints, drop links etc etc.

What and who would you change/recommend?

Il be getting arb bushes and wishbone bushes also.

 

[bozothenutter]

I was looking at the space rsx kit......

Can get them for a good price from demon tweeks through work.

Any thoughts on them?

I have been running them for a few years one rear one broke...was replaced under warranty.
Can't really fault them, did two trackdays on them.
Next stop AST!........someday

 

[Jekyll]

For £500, Bilsteins (off the German site - have a search on here on what to do) or Gaz's are the way to go.

@Kyle 86 Is not far from you and he has the B14 kit on he's cup. Perhaps he can take you out in he's so you get a feel for them?

 

[Kyle 86]

Im up for taking him for a spin

 

[Craigy88]

Im up for taking him for a spin

That would be spot on mate.
Where a outs are you?

 

[Mike Lane]

B14's FTW i love mine
Massive improvement over my old V-Maxx

I could make you a setup from the springs in my mattress that would serve you better than the Vmaxx

 

[Kyle 86]

That would be spot on mate.
Where a outs are you?

Im in Rayleigh but the cup is in canvey

 

[Mr R.]

Spax are s**t, get the billies bud.

 

[Myfanwyi]

For £500, Bilsteins (off the German site - have a search on here on what to do) or Gaz's are the way to go.

@Kyle 86 Is not far from you and he has the B14 kit on he's cup. Perhaps he can take you out in he's so you get a feel for them?

http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/B...I-BB0-1-2-CB0-1-2-20-16V-Sport-CB0M-47-087750 Have it saved in my favorites ready for when I've saved up :up:

 

[Tony Hunter]

£500!!

You'd be better getting a brand new set of standard shocks tbh. You would be surprised at how much that would improve things.
We have guys race with us in the production cup, and they are not allowed coilovers.

 

[Craigy88]

F

£500!!

You'd be better getting a brand new set of standard shocks tbh. You would be surprised at how much that would improve things.
We have guys race with us in the production cup, and they are not allowed coilovers.

Yeah I've got that suspension already but want to improve on it and like iv said I want to go lower and corner weight it.

Billy's it is.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Brand new suspension?