Box/clutch issue?

[JamesBryan]

Brilliant, cheers mate! I've seen you can squeeze them out the passenger side wheel arch by lowering the subframe and removing everything on that side. Best way to do it? I only just changed the oil! haha

Imagine what it's like when you've put £60's worth of Redline MTL in ?

 

[Louis]

Imagine what it's like when you've put £60's worth of Redline MTL in ?

I've probably put about that in when i managed to put a litre of engine oil in the box and then shoved some cheap stuff in and then genuine elf again ?

Seen this at £90 - https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4...9d18d28645e37501f78276329dd060c0a00f31&000069

Seems decent value for genuine Valeo.

 

[Daz...]

Use the code MID60 on GSF, comes in at £73 for the premium option. Pretty sure that’ll be Valeo, could always call your local branch to check first.

 

[JamesBryan]

I've probably put about that in when i managed to put a litre of engine oil in the box and then shoved some cheap stuff in and then genuine elf again ?

Seen this at £90 - https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4...9d18d28645e37501f78276329dd060c0a00f31&000069

Seems decent value for genuine Valeo.

Yeah I got mine for £60 about 2 years ago.

 

[hipwell]

Brilliant, cheers mate! I've seen you can squeeze them out the passenger side wheel arch by lowering the subframe and removing everything on that side. Best way to do it? I only just changed the oil! haha

It needs to be lowered quite a lot to get through the gap.

I took the bolts out completely on the box side, and lowered the driver's side about an inch and left the bolts in, this gave just enough room to get the box out

 

[Louis]

It needs to be lowered quite a lot to get through the gap.

I took the bolts out completely on the box side, and lowered the driver's side about an inch and left the bolts in, this gave just enough room to get the box out

I'm thinking of just pulling the whole engine and box then I can swap it all over in the garage. I cant get the car in the garage as not enough space. Presume this doesn't take much longer?

 

[Louis]

Thanks all for the replies by the way!

 

[JamesBryan]

I'm thinking of just pulling the whole engine and box then I can swap it all over in the garage. I cant get the car in the garage as not enough space. Presume this doesn't take much longer?

Pulling the engine will be a fair bit more work, unless you get @YorkshireKyle to do it while you watch ?

Requires PAS lines moving/disconnecting and stuff.

 

[Louis]

Pulling the engine will be a fair bit more work, unless you get @YorkshireKyle to do it while you watch ?

Requires PAS lines moving/disconnecting and stuff.

You judging my mechanical skills? ? ?

 

[JamesBryan]

You judging my mechanical skills? ? ?

No sensei ?

 

[bloke]

Pull the box out of the passengers side arch.

 

[Krarl]

Pull the box out of the passengers side arch.

I'd have done this like

Subframe half drop and the old switcharoo

 

[Louis]

I did think about this, but if i pull the engine I can drill and tap the block turbo in the future and tidy up the bay.

Was just a thought? Never done a box/clutch before so wanted the best visiblity and stuff.

 

[Krarl]

I did think about this, but if i pull the engine I can drill and tap the block turbo in the future and tidy up the bay.

Was just a thought? Never done a box/clutch before so wanted the best visiblity and stuff.

Just do that shite in future as you can drop the sump off, stick in some ARP rod bolts and do the oil pump mod too.

Plus you could probably go EPAS when going turbo to stop your PAS boiling. Endless possibilities

 

[Louis]

Just do that shite in future as you can drop the sump off, stick in some ARP rod bolts and do the oil pump mod too.

Plus you could probably go EPAS when going turbo to stop your PAS boiling. Endless possibilities

I'd planned on doing that mate. I will see how long it will take for the box from Mark to arrive then make a decision on how to proceed

 

[Louis]

Do I have to be careful not rolling the clio with the shafts out as i believe you can f**k up the bearings? Not gonna be towing it down the road, its just mainly going to be sat on its wheels but with no shafts in.

 

[Krarl]

Do I have to be careful not rolling the clio with the shafts out as i believe you can f**k up the bearings? Not gonna be towing it down the road, its just mainly going to be sat on its wheels but with no shafts in.

I put some threaded bar and washers through mine to hold them together. If you leave the weight of it on them then they'll be shagged over the course of a week

Imagine a fat bird sat on your chest, that's what your car will feel like🤣

 

[Louis]

I put some threaded bar and washers through mine to hold them together. If you leave the weight of it on them then they'll be shagged over the course of a week

Imagine a fat bird sat on your chest, that's what your car will feel like🤣

Didn't realise it just being sat on them would kill them. I'll go jack the car up and shove it on some stands.

 

[Krarl]

Didn't realise it just being sat on them would kill them. I'll go jack the car up and shove it on some stands.

Aye they will start to splay, a day shouldn't hurt em too much but after a while they'll come apart

 

[Louis]

Aye they will start to splay, a day shouldn't hurt em too much but after a while they'll come apart

It's on Axle stands now resting on some MDF to stop it sinking into the block paving. Didn't realise it was that bad to leave it on its wheels with no shafts in. Fingers crossed no damage done or its another expense added to the list!

 

[Krarl]

It's on Axle stands now resting on some MDF to stop it sinking into the block paving. Didn't realise it was that bad to leave it on its wheels with no shafts in. Fingers crossed no damage done or its another expense added to the list!

Nah should be sound, you got your box out?

 

[Louis]

Nah should be sound, you got your box out?

Not yet mate. Just made a start draining the box, removing the shafts and linkages etc. Gonna do it gradually after work until my box arrives from @NorthloopCup.

Plan on replacing the aux belt and tensioner as its cracking after 2 years too

 

[Krarl]

Not yet mate. Just made a start draining the box, removing the shafts and linkages etc. Gonna do it gradually after work until my box arrives from @NorthloopCup.

Plan on replacing the aux belt and tensioner as its cracking after 2 years too

No probs, gimme a shout if you need owt

 

[NorthloopCup]

Not yet mate. Just made a start draining the box, removing the shafts and linkages etc. Gonna do it gradually after work until my box arrives from @NorthloopCup.

Plan on replacing the aux belt and tensioner as its cracking after 2 years too

Let me know what colour the oil is when you drop it!

 

[Louis]

Let me know what colour the oil is when you drop it!

It looks golden when it comes out but is black in the tray. Was fresh 2 months ago ish

 

[Louis]

 

[Louis]

Just filtered the oil into a container and it's just full of black specs. Nothing metallic from what I can see though.

 

[Ed Hodson]

Sorry to hear that your box has given up mate!

I had to replace mine on my 182 a couple of months ago. I wouldn’t say that it was an easy job, but working on it bit, by bit, spread out over a few days, I got there in the end.

I had planned lowering the passenger side of the subframe, but when trying it, it looked impossible to get the box out like that, so I completely removed the subframe instead.

Good luck with the work ahead!