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Building a Server?
- Thread starter Chapster5
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Take it as it will be one hell of a farce if not impossible to upgrade from RAID 1 to 10
Nick
Nick
You wouldnt notice any difference.
Audi TT Stronic
I promised myself I would stop contributing to this thread.. damn.
HP and Cisco are both good, my personal preference is Cisco but that's probably because I am CCNA.
24 port for all the difference in price... you will go through switch ports quicker than you think.
Don't bother with RAID 10 ! Overkill, Expensive etc.. common sense dictates that two RAID 1 setups would be better suited.
Exactly.
RAID1 will cope just fine, and having a seperate RAID1 for the OS will ensure the OS always has access to it's own files and frees up the DATA drive for just serving data to clients.
It would be a pain, but seriously.. RAID1 will be fine, if you are concerned about speed then just use 10k or even 15k SAS Drives.
HP and Cisco are both good, my personal preference is Cisco but that's probably because I am CCNA.
24 port for all the difference in price... you will go through switch ports quicker than you think.
Don't bother with RAID 10 ! Overkill, Expensive etc.. common sense dictates that two RAID 1 setups would be better suited.
Exactly.
RAID1 will cope just fine, and having a seperate RAID1 for the OS will ensure the OS always has access to it's own files and frees up the DATA drive for just serving data to clients.
It would be a pain, but seriously.. RAID1 will be fine, if you are concerned about speed then just use 10k or even 15k SAS Drives.
Yep, since NT 3.51
My eyes are bleeding 
Ok so kdf seems to know what he's talking about, although migrating from raid 1 to 10 is fairly straightforward, as most hp raid controllers treat 2 disks as a 2 disk raid 10 in effect, add two drives and it becomes a raid 10 automatically as its just mirroring with more drives.
I work with servers day in day out, I implement them for customers, along with small to million £ plus sans, I am also accredited in Hp up to the highest possible level (Master accredited systems engineer), a Cisco ccna, a netapp certified implementation engineer, a VMware certified professional and a microsoft mcse, so you could say I'm fairly qualified in this area, along with about 9 years experience, so not just a TBT (text book techie).
The problem with this thread is the people who think they know what they are talking about, but who don't really and know a few buzz words or acronyms. Chapter doesn't know who does and who doesn't know their stuff though, so he doesn't know who to believe, that's why there is so much conflicting info flying about.
Ok so kdf seems to know what he's talking about, although migrating from raid 1 to 10 is fairly straightforward, as most hp raid controllers treat 2 disks as a 2 disk raid 10 in effect, add two drives and it becomes a raid 10 automatically as its just mirroring with more drives.
I work with servers day in day out, I implement them for customers, along with small to million £ plus sans, I am also accredited in Hp up to the highest possible level (Master accredited systems engineer), a Cisco ccna, a netapp certified implementation engineer, a VMware certified professional and a microsoft mcse, so you could say I'm fairly qualified in this area, along with about 9 years experience, so not just a TBT (text book techie).
The problem with this thread is the people who think they know what they are talking about, but who don't really and know a few buzz words or acronyms. Chapter doesn't know who does and who doesn't know their stuff though, so he doesn't know who to believe, that's why there is so much conflicting info flying about.
Hater
I look after things that are sat on servers (like DHCP and DNS)
The rest of the time I lord it over blinky boxes tbf. I have looked after servers before, though.
I have been confused a few times... but I think im on the right track now (I hope) the summary above I think should be enough for what I need right now.
Would I need to setup a DNS on the server? Or would the Switch act as a DHCP?
Nick
Would I need to setup a DNS on the server? Or would the Switch act as a DHCP?
Nick
The switch will just make sure everything is connected and no IPs will conflict?
Ill get my read on about DNS
Nick
Ill get my read on about DNS
Nick
Actually the router would do the DHCP wouldnt it,
Would I assign a static IP in the router for the server?
Nick
Would I assign a static IP in the router for the server?
Nick
BMW 330ci sp/ 172Cup
Agreed. Only popped back in for a quick check to see how we are progressing and WOW! 13 pages already
What a journey. Chapster5, your head must be hurting by now surely?
Oh lawd.
^
This does not help... lol
Agreed. Only popped back in for a quick check to see how we are progressing and WOW! 13 pages already
What a journey. Chapster5, your head must be hurting by now surely?
My eyes are stinging I will admit but I will not give up I refuse to!
Nick
Audi TT Stronic
Yes, daily.. including purchasing, bare metal rebuilds, virtualization, consolidation blah blah etc.
I don't know HP kit (which I previously freely admitted.) The last time I did something similar I just build a new array and migrated the data across. The HP solution sounds painless.
Unless it's layer 3.
For something your size you shouldn't need anymore than 254 address's, so set your subnet to 255.255.255.0 on your DHCP server. Then set your DHCP range x.x.x.50-150 (make sure you use a private address range) keep 1-49 for servers and 151+ for network peripherals such as routers and printers etc.
Yes, daily.. including purchasing, bare metal rebuilds, virtualization, consolidation blah blah etc.
I don't know HP kit (which I previously freely admitted.) The last time I did something similar I just build a new array and migrated the data across. The HP solution sounds painless.
Unless it's layer 3.
For something your size you shouldn't need anymore than 254 address's, so set your subnet to 255.255.255.0 on your DHCP server. Then set your DHCP range x.x.x.50-150 (make sure you use a private address range) keep 1-49 for servers and 151+ for network peripherals such as routers and printers etc.
Thank you
Nick
BMW 330ci sp/ 172Cup
Let's not complicate things
Possible quote of the entire thread
I started chuckling right towards the start when there was mention of vlans, port security, god dam it even IDS was mentioned at one point lol. Then there was mention of OSI models and access layers. all for 5 users initially.
Yes, daily.. including purchasing, bare metal rebuilds, virtualization, consolidation blah blah etc.
I don't know HP kit (which I previously freely admitted.) The last time I did something similar I just build a new array and migrated the data across. The HP solution sounds painless.
Unless it's layer 3.
For something your size you shouldn't need anymore than 254 address's, so set your subnet to 255.255.255.0 on your DHCP server. Then set your DHCP range x.x.x.50-150 (make sure you use a private address range) keep 1-49 for servers and 151+ for network peripherals such as routers and printers etc.
And just in case you don't know what the private ranges are, for a subnet of 255.255.255.x you would normally use 192.168.1.x
ChrisR
ClioSport Club Member
Good shout, how about running Novell?
Novell is looking too complex too many pieces of software to get by the looks of it. I would change anything at the moment in that respect I don't think. I have found a great step by step on setting up SBS from installation to adding clients users user groups VPN computers privillages
There is a step however of buying a secure license? What's that about or can I use the default one? Is it a necessary step?
Nick
There is a step however of buying a secure license? What's that about or can I use the default one? Is it a necessary step?
Nick
he was joking! lol. you know, he made a funny?! haha?!!!
@Adam - I dont work with servers every day of the week, but most days of the week as that is a large part of my business...
P.s. and also have a masters in computer science, a BSc in internet technologies and applications and done ccna1-4...
@Adam - I dont work with servers every day of the week, but most days of the week as that is a large part of my business...
P.s. and also have a masters in computer science, a BSc in internet technologies and applications and done ccna1-4...
Lol! Guess I need to stop taking everyone so serious in here I'm believing what I'm reading because you all know more than I do
As for the license thing is a necessary thing to do?
Also why do servers have 2 PSUs is it incase one fails?
Nick
As for the license thing is a necessary thing to do?
Also why do servers have 2 PSUs is it incase one fails?
Nick
Lol! Guess I need to stop taking everyone so serious in here I'm believing what I'm reading because you all know more than I do
As for the license thing is a necessary thing to do?
Also why do servers have 2 PSUs is it incase one fails?
Nick
It's for exactly that reason, or if one power feed fails, or whatever. Just provides redundancy.
Really? I thought it was because they used so much power....
Audi TT Stronic
No, its for redundancy.. you can pull either supply out with no effect on the system (other than generating alerts). Blade enclosures sometimes need three (or more) but at least one is reduntant should any of the others fail.
Just dont pull them both at the same time
A proper setup should have no single point of failure.
Just dont pull them both at the same time
A proper setup should have no single point of failure.
I shall run 1 PSU on a separate ring main from anything else (eg client computers, printers, other perhipals) and the other PSU on yet another ring main just incase something trips on te other ring main it's all still going
Nick
Nick
Audi TT Stronic
Run at least one of the PSU's on a UPS. Doesn't have to be anything special.. just enough to run it for 10-15 minutes. Set the UPS software to begin shutting down 5 minutes after a power cut. Most power cuts are seconds so your server would continue to run without ever shutting down.
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