Cams

JohnnyE · Apr 22, 2012

Ive decided to get the Trophy cammed. Ive been reading a lot about cams and cannot decide which one's.

I use the car for sprints so im looking for quick acceleration, also do the odd trackday. 438's. 421's, GT, Schrick advice would be welcome..............

Johnny

Russ_16v · Apr 22, 2012

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Schricks > everything else (Can you tell I liked mine?)

Have catcams in the Williams, and seem quite good

JohnnyE · Apr 22, 2012

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I thinking of 438's or Schricks atm need a price tomorrow see what the difference is..................

yeecup · Apr 22, 2012

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438's

JohnnyE · Apr 22, 2012

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yeecup said:
438's

Have you had these fitted as i seen you asking about GT cams a while back??

yeecup · Apr 22, 2012

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Decided on the 438's after seeing and reading results/reviews/graphs, gt cams are good by all accounts but similar to the 428's which are bit too mild. Everyone has their own opinion on them both and it's been done to death on here.

Dan519 · Apr 23, 2012

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438s have yeilded great drivabilty and good results for a handful of cars that I've done so far

They would be my first choice
Mapping a ph1 that I've just fitted with GT cams tomorrow so we'll see what they come up with. They're almost identical to 428s so I kind of know what to expect, but they're well priced so they fit nicely in the pay less for less gain bracket. Car drives well pre mapping anyhow

Fred@BTM · Apr 23, 2012

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come and have a drive in our Trophy Johnny, think you'll be surprised!

yeecup · Apr 23, 2012

danny, post up the results with the gt cams please, gaz on here got 187bhp iirc couple of weeks back on a rr day with the gt cams fitted. only seen 2 results so far with gt cams one was freds own graph and gaz's.

Sam@NP · Apr 23, 2012

Im a big fan of the GT cams in my engine.

sonny172cup · Apr 23, 2012

438s are next on my list to compliment the ITBs

JohnnyE · Apr 23, 2012

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Fred@BTM said:
come and have a drive in our Trophy Johnny, think you'll be surprised!

Why arent you closer to me......... thanks for the offer

Cub. · Apr 23, 2012

I've got 438's in mine, would recommend them to anyone.

Dan519 · Apr 24, 2012

yeecup said:
danny, post up the results with the gt cams please, gaz on here got 187bhp iirc couple of weeks back on a rr day with the gt cams fitted. only seen 2 results so far with gt cams one was freds own graph and gaz's.

Will do once the owner has the results

Chris205 · Apr 24, 2012

Danny how much do you do the Gt cams for fitted?

Dan519 · Apr 24, 2012

£985, with mapping optional. Have to see what the owner thinks of this one and what it makes on his local rollers compared to the before result first. They're a way off 438s though

Toastfrenzy · Apr 24, 2012

438's for sure.....

Dan519 · Apr 24, 2012

Toastfrenzy said:
438's for sure.....

need to speak to you soon Pete

Silent_Scone · Apr 24, 2012

I've 428s but I'd openly admit to buy now you'd be better off with the newer options given here. Not seen many results posted for 438's but they seem to make fairly good peak power.

Then again so do 428s. Hello minefield

Toastfrenzy · Apr 24, 2012

Dan@519Automotive said:
need to speak to you soon Pete

ah, yes...

Dan519 · Apr 24, 2012

Toastfrenzy said:
ah, yes...

oh, that too LOL. This is nice stuff

JohnnyE · Apr 24, 2012

What's peoples thoughts on cat cams?

mr.pink87 · Apr 24, 2012

428s, 421s and 438s are catcams. Good quality and reasonable priced imo.

dmallett · Apr 24, 2012

Dan@519Automotive said:
£985, with mapping optional. Have to see what the owner thinks of this one and what it makes on his local rollers compared to the before result first. They're a way off 438s though

I dont like the sound of this lol.
I'll try get it on the rollers friday. Couldn't pm me the results could you?

yeecup · Apr 26, 2012

180bho and 160 lb with the gt cams then? Not great figures are they?

Dan519 · Apr 26, 2012

mild cams to be honest, they're only 428 replicas really. Drives well though and it's a definite improvement from before. I would have prefered to fit 438s, but I can only give the options, not force anything on people

Sam@NP · Apr 26, 2012

yeecup said:
180bho and 160 lb with the gt cams then? Not great figures are they?

192bhp and 166lb are though

Dan519 · Apr 26, 2012

Put it on SRR Sam, then I'll believe it

yeecup · Apr 26, 2012

Yours much be magic ones

Sam@NP · Apr 26, 2012

Dan@519Automotive said:
Put it on SRR Sam, then I'll believe it

Not a fan of Matts dyno? TBH Id happily see what it makes elsewhere.

mitch1503 · Apr 26, 2012

Sam@BTM said:
Not a fan of Matts dyno? TBH Id happily see what it makes elsewhere.

Get it on surrey RR then be good to see within wat ponies it makes of Matt's dyno

Dan519 · Apr 26, 2012

Sam@BTM said:
Not a fan of Matts dyno? TBH Id happily see what it makes elsewhere.

Well a 182 I did with 428s and a few other small bits made 185 at SRR so I'd say you'd do that or thereabouts

The ph1 did 185 with the KTR induction btw so the stock airbox and elbow is definitiely holding it back a little

dmallett · Apr 26, 2012

It drives brilliantly, perhaps I should've gone for 438s. But with the ktec induction it was 23bhp above my starting figure. I know it has other mods too, im happy with it!

Dan519 · Apr 26, 2012

That's entirely the important thing. As I mentioned, it took a lot of extra fuel in the midrange over the standard map, so there was definitely a big chunk you gained there. I really liked it beweek 4.5 and 6k the best

Russ_16v · Apr 26, 2012

Dan@519Automotive said:
That's entirely the important thing. As I mentioned, it took a lot of extra fuel in the midrange over the standard map, so there was definitely a big chunk you gained there. I really liked it beweek 4.5 and 6k the best

Exactly where you need it for road driving, sounds like a good improvement

dmallett · Apr 26, 2012

My biggest gains are definitely noticed lower down. Like you've said, the car comes alive so much earlier and holds its force up and over 7k , ill get a dyno done later in the year at the RR that I got 162bhp on.

w33 brl · Apr 26, 2012

im glad somene else started a thread because im in the position...would prefer a package deal but needs to be close to home

JohnnyE · Apr 26, 2012

w33 brl said:
im glad somene else started a thread because im in the position...would prefer a package deal but needs to be close to home

I have a 4hr 30min drive to get mine sorted...........................

Chris205 · Apr 26, 2012

I'm starting to lean further towards the 438's now after seeing a few results, only thing I'm worried about is it having an uneven idle and crappy drivability for normal driving. I know that the GT cams that fred is supplying certainly idle very smooth and sams car sounded nuts when it hit 5k RPM.

w33 brl · Apr 26, 2012

stone automotive have a used set for sale but there 428's in the sales section

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