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Clio 172
Have you tried your tdc sensor ? I had same thing last week. Would only crank over and not start. Changed out the tdc sensor and now fires up 1st time every time. Just a suggestion anyway.
I have not changed it no, I wanted to make sure it was definitely that before soldering wires n stuff and rendering the part non-returnable. There is a spark at the coil pack on all 4 outlets, so I don't know if that means its doing its job correctly or not? Or whether its sparking at the wrong time?
Cheers
Clio 172
Could take out the tdc sensor and give it a really good cleaning. It may turn over and start when refitted unless its totally duff. Will only take a few minutes to remove and try. Worth a go at least.
Yeah thanks, I will try and get hold of some nail varnish remover and thoroughly clean it. I've heard to fit the new sensor, I have to fit a new connector involving soldering wires which is hassle. Is this true?
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Clio 172
Can a knackered one make it run differently, mine is noisy, and I have a strange misfire/hesitation/splutter around 5,2k (well, car wont pass 5ish k) that I can't seem to fix, and someone suggested that.
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
If its sparking its got a crank signal.
Can you here the fuel pump prime when you turn the ign on.
Can you here the fuel pump prime when you turn the ign on.
you might of tried this but I had a 1.6 clio and the fuel relay ( in the right had box) was shot would turn over everything relay in started fist time!! this is unless you injectors are spraying petrol then I am wrong XD
Yeh the fuel pump is fine, and squirts fuel out from the fuel rail supply when turned over
As said in your other thread, its probably not TDC if you have a spark. If its sparking and still not firing, then I would put that down to being starved of fuel. But you said in your other thread that is had fuel on the plugs so that doesn't make sense. Are you sure it was petrol on the plugs and not just condensation? You could try removing the injectors + fuel rail (tape up the hole son the manifold) and turn the engine over to see if they are spraying fuel all ok. That would be my next move (leaving the injectors in the rail will tell you if they are all working as well, as 2+ broken ones will stop it from running)
Cheers for your advice, I'm not at home at the minute but I will do when I get back. Are my concerns of timing/bent valve issues unlikely or? Just presuming the worst at the moment.
Thanks
Not yet. It is worth mentioning also, as in the other thread, that the car does actually start up and fire up for a second if left like after 12 hours. It's an a garage now and the xenons come on also, showing it has started.. I'm just not sure where to go next. Think a compression test will be the one.
Also, what are these clios like for head gasket failures?
Cheers
head gasket failures are very rare. Do the injector test and compression test and let us know the outcome
Just wasn't sure that's all, as I'm new to these engines and Clio's infact. I'll do the injector test hopefully Sunday, but I need to find someone with a compression tool to carry out the compression test. Either way, I'll let you know.
Cheers again for your help, appreciate it.
When it fires up for that 1 second or so, how does it sound?
The battery was discharging fairly quickly when trying to crank the car, put it on charge and it only took an hour to charge full so I bought a new battery, no difference.
Cheers
It's hard to tell really, cos I'm still on the starter, and if I let go it just dies.
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Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
Sounds to me like the cam timings slipped.
If the engine cranls over with a good spark then forget the tdc for now can you hear the fuel pump buz? smell the exhaust when cranking can you smell petrol???? could be flooded ?? try cranking with full throttle ?
that would make sense as the clattering sound, but not to why it starts for a bit if you let it rest. We really need that video
I literally just started it as I'm back home now, and the same thing happened. It seems to me as its a loss of compression. I'll do the video in the morning.
Cheers mate
that would make sense as the clattering sound, but not to why it starts for a bit if you let it rest. We really need that video
Sorry for the delay, I have done a video but cannot get it onto youtube for some reason. Have you got an iPhone so I could send it over iMessage? Or shall I send it via E-Mail? Cheers
Monaco 172 Ph2
Sounds a bit like mine did - ive just had mine comp tested over the last few days and mine had no comp in 2 cylinders,
suspect dropped valve/slipped timing,
Did your car die while you was driving it - or just not start one day ???
i wish mine was just a TDC sensor :dapprove:
suspect dropped valve/slipped timing,
Did your car die while you was driving it - or just not start one day ???
i wish mine was just a TDC sensor :dapprove:
I keep thinking it's the compression in mine, and I also wish it was the TDC sensor! Nah, well I bought it from a mate and it was fine, no misfire, no nothing. Maybe a little down on power but that may have been partly due to the fact that it was sitting for a year, or partly because i'd never drove a fast 16v engine or 2.0 clio before. It was running fine, put it in my garage until June so I could get insured on it. One day fiddling with the air con screen, the car started to run slow, then eventually died. Started up again, with a rather clackety sound, then died. And since then it's only ever done what I shown on the video. Have you had a quote about fixing it? Are you going to get new valves or a head, or?
cheers
Monaco 172 Ph2
A lot of people on here have suggested just getting a decent mileaged engine and drop that in,
but tbh I d rathe jut get it fixed but looking between £700-1000 based on what peeps have said on here,
so have to bite the bullet me as not gonna get a decent replacement sport for what I can afford lol
but tbh I d rathe jut get it fixed but looking between £700-1000 based on what peeps have said on here,
so have to bite the bullet me as not gonna get a decent replacement sport for what I can afford lol
f**k sakeee you are jokin?? I don't have that sort of cash haha. Surely changing the valves can't be that expensive? Especially if you get a back street mechanic /garage to do it??
A back street garage most likely won't have the correct tools or know the correct procedure for doing cambelt timing on these. We are specialists for a reason
Yes take it to someone like Dan, it will save you money in the long run even if it initially cost more (which I doublt it would cost much more). You will be pissed if you get some knobber to put in your new engine, just to have the belt slip again 3 months down the line!!
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
That's defiantly 110% down on compression.
Ph1 172 & Clio DCi
I have a compete engine for sale with brand new genuine Renault belt kit that have done 0 miles that I can deliver to dan! I will take £400+ your old engine in return.
Just get dan to swap them over!
Just get dan to swap them over!
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Thats a steal! If it is terminal, this is by far your best option!
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