Carbone Lorraine RC5+ or DS2500?

[Greeny.]

Had a quick search around but didnt find to much so here we go...

Gunna be getting either of these sets of pads after ive replaced my rears! Im after peoples experiences of each who have infact owned and run them! Not from hearsay. Ive been in djroberts car running DS2500's and was impressed, but I was hoping to buy everything from Kam racing and they dont sell these, so im considering the RC5's.

Im going to be using them with some HC discs and doing a few trackdays next year along with the normal legal fast road driving

Ive also seen on here the RC5's used hard in the wet seem to cover the car in proper nasty stuck on brake dust that only a PC polish will remove, am I correct here?

 

[Munson]

I don't know what RC5 means. I'm guessing compound type.

I used Carbone Lorraine (ktec supplied if that matters). They were noisy at low speeds on the road. They didn't destroy my brake discs. They didn't destroy my rims.

Other people say they destroy everything but that wsn't my experience. I do know that it was impossible to make them fade around Rockingham. I had to rip my fogs and liners out to stop the fluid boiling. The pads just got better and better, the hotter they got. Epic stopping power. However, they did only last one day.

Basically, don't use them on the road. I roll with Halfords specials for that and they're just fine. Race pads for the race track. Road pads for the road. IMO.

 

[Inferno]

I've not used the RC5's, but I currently have the DS2500's and they are the best road/track compromise pad that I've tried.

I've also used PF97's, standard Renault and Mintex 1177's in the past.

 

[MarkCup]

I'm on DS2500s now having just replaced a set of CLs...

With the CLs you get two brake pads in one. A nice low temp. pad that bites and holds on well and is all you ever get or indeed need on the road.

Then there's the high temp. side of things, a lap to warm them through then they come alive, giving really strong retardation with only light pedal pressure, meanining you can be gentler on the pedal which for me helps with heel/toe changes when really pressing on.

The DS2500s? They kind of have that low/high temp. difference, but the cold performance gives crap bite, and when really pushed and hot they do wilt. Also the shift in temp. I found happens on the road...as few decent blasts and suddenly you've got instant bite, then the next time you go for the pedal you've got no bite agin as the temp. has dropped.

DS2500s = silent
CLs = noisy as f**k

CLs all day if you can stand the din.

 

[Evil Ally]

Never felt stopping power like the CL. Having said that, in a 1000 miles of hard use, they nuked my front wheels completely, turned the side of my car brown, and just about destroyed a brand new set of Brembo Max discs (at least 2 thirds gone!). £170 to get the wheels refurbed, 2 days hard elbow grease to clean the paintwork up.

DS2500 are about as good as you'll get for a normal civilised type pad that normal people might use. They are a decent upgrade to the standard pad in every way, but you don't get any of the problems of a full on track pad.

I would say.....

Road car used on track = DS2500
Track car occasionally used on road = CL

 

[Greeny.]

Sounds like the DS2500's are for me then, just a shame Kam racing dont sell them

Thanks alot for the reviews

 

[fishcake]

I run the carbone lorraines on the front of my 172 track car,they are superb,Ive not noticed much extra dust or damaged to paintwork or wheels,as reported by some users of these pads,I must not be driving it hard enough,they are a bit noisey though.

 

[Kam.]

we should be getting our first batch of the RC5+ fronts in a couple of days time, as this is the first batch of Clio fronts made by CL no-one on here will have tried the new compound but it is a lot less noisy, produces less dust and even has a better friction level and wear rate than the now obselete RC5 compound.

The RC6 is what Ktec sell and it is much more race orientated with higher friction levels though it does have a very high disc and pad wear rate (much higher than the RC5+ and RC5) and also produces a lot of noise and dust.

 

[Greeny.]

we should be getting our first batch of the RC5+ fronts in a couple of days time, as this is the first batch of Clio fronts made by CL no-one on here will have tried the new compound but it is a lot less noisy, produces less dust and even has a better friction level and wear rate than the now obselete RC5 compound.

The RC6 is what Ktec sell and it is much more race orientated with higher friction levels though it does have a very high disc and pad wear rate (much higher than the RC5+ and RC5) and also produces a lot of noise and dust.

Ahhhh!! I didnt realise that the RC5+'s where new So the reviews above are likely to be of the RC6's? I wasnt looking to get there as I know these are more of pure track use, which obviously im not doing.

Any plans of stocking the DS2500's?

 

[Evil Ally]

Ahhhh!! I didnt realise that the RC5+'s where new So the reviews above are likely to be of the RC6's? I wasnt looking to get there as I know these are more of pure track use, which obviously im not doing.

Any plans of stocking the DS2500's?

I had the old RC5, which seriously made my wheels look like they had been baked in charcole! The RC5+ sounds interesting though!

 

[Munson]

So I was using RC6 from k-tec? They were simply immense. Incredible.

 

[Kam.]

Ahhhh!! I didnt realise that the RC5+'s where new So the reviews above are likely to be of the RC6's? I wasnt looking to get there as I know these are more of pure track use, which obviously im not doing.

Any plans of stocking the DS2500's?

Stocking the DS2500 is something we'd like to do, but I doubt we'll be doing it in the next couple of months...

 

[dswarwick]

I use RC6's on the track and they are fantastic. I haven't had any problems with dust.

They are noisey when cold though - I change back to OEM for the road.

 

[Munson]

I change back to OEM for the road.

Bingo. I don't see the need to wear out expensive pads on the road. OEM is fine, and changing to race pads is only a half hour job.

 

[Jonny1*2]

what about pagids greeny? bit more expensive, but supposed to be amazing pads.

 

[dswarwick]

Bingo. I don't see the need to wear out expensive pads on the road. OEM is fine, and changing to race pads is only a half hour job.

Half an hour? You need more practice

 

[MarkCup]

Bingo. I don't see the need to wear out expensive pads on the road. OEM is fine, and changing to race pads is only a half hour job.

Look more, brake less, then you can continue to enjoy the noise.

 

[Munson]

I don't follow you, Mark? My point is that because I do those very things, I don't need to brake hard on the road. Therefore I may as well just use road pads for the road. No?

 

[White16valver]

I think you're both trying to say the same thing from different angles lol