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megane coupe F7R
I raced an mr2 on a new bypass neer me. Ive got a valver and it kept up through second gear but it pulled bout a car length through 3rd and was about 2 car lengths ahead in 5th. That was a gt t bar non turbo
take a look at http://www.toyotaownersclub.co.ukwww.toyotaownersclub.co.uk
then browse to the MR2 section always a lot of guys on there
i didnt think they were owt special to tell ya the truth. had a play with one earlier this year on the way back from the mag shoot and we absolutely drilled it and were waiting for it to catch up... actually, I have that on video http://www.cliosport.net/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif lol
megane coupe F7R
Yeh, Well it beat me.
A standard williams would of beat it though. All i was lacking was a bit of torque in 3rd gear onwords. Had him in secondMy mate has a Mk2 MR2, think its about an N plate and 170bhp where as some of the earlier models were only 150bhp.
Basically its very slow. It was no faster than my 150bhp Vectra SRI. It actually weighs the same as a Vectra believe it or not which frankly is piss poor for a 2 seater sports car. Although my mates has 170bhp (and he stuck an IK on it) it is no quicker than the 150bhp models because below 6k rpm it has about as much power as a Daewoo Matiz and the engine just sounds really harsh.
My mates Mk1 Golf GTI 5 speed happily sat on his bumper half the way up the local bypass - mega embarrassing given that its a 20 year old 1.6!!! My 182 would make mince meat out of it and I would hope a valver could at least match it up until 80 or so.
http://www.mr2.com/ARTICLE/Toyota_MR2_GT.htmlhttp://www.mr2.com/ARTICLE/Toyota_MR2_GT.html
Thats a review of my mates 170bhp version with "real world" figures which naturally differ somewhat from the bullsh1t the hairdressers come out with in the pub....
megane coupe F7R
Raced a vectra 2.5v6 the other week. Kept up with that up to 90. The mr2 i raced must of been modded then. If a golf gti can keep up with an mr2 then a valver would have no props. Theres only 1 golf that is as quick as a valver and that is the mk1. The rest are sh*t. Even my mates mk4 1.8 turbo (150bhp)
megane coupe F7R
Raced one before. Was good,but not good enough.
[Edited by Andyvalver on 23 November 2004 at 6:51pm]
megane coupe F7R
Agreed.^^^ Dunno bout that mr2 i raced though.
sounds like a bit of a freak that one Neil, very respectable time, even more considering the car. to be fair that mag article was from 1994 and as with most cars, especially performance (well, ish! lol) engines they tend to need running in and genuinely get better with age it seems. cant remember the age of the one we had a blast with, but it got spanked well and truly by a Williams 1, 2 & 3. we had to let it catch up, but then it could be a bad example, all cars are different... even when theyre the same... you know what i mean... lol
I think m4rk means twin entry turbo, same as the one in the GT4.
[Edited by TheJesus on 23 November 2004 at 7:19pm]
megane coupe F7R
A standard Valver gets mid 16s to low 17s depending on conditions and driver like. lol
me wants a mr2, insurance wise its affordable for me but of course thats the non turbo, and im not a hairdresser or gay, only reason i brought this up waas its between a valver or a mr2 for what i get very soon. but the mr2 has more scope for tuning. and i fancy a change from the clio iv got.
megane coupe F7R
Oh right. Well a valver or a willy will put a smile on ya face after owning an rt. The thing is, People who try to race you at the lights will expect to get beaten by an mr2 cuz it looks fast. Its much more satisfying to do whoop their ass in a valver. Alot of people i speak to in the pub dont belive me when i say its a 1.8. Dunno why.
I wouldnt touch the NA Mk2 MR2 with a barge pole unless you go for an import turbo with all the potential trouble that brings. I feel sorry for my mate, he spent a lot of money on that car thinking he was buying some hard core sports car and all he got was a rear wheel drive Avensis with a fancy body shell.
Frankly Id try and get a Roadster. Better handling, far more fun to drive and 140bhp per tonne. My mates 170bhp Mk2 is only 130bhp per tonne although in reality due to the poor power and torque distribution it feels more like 110bhp per tonne.
Its 300kg lighter than the Mk2 and group 13 insurance for 140bhp per tonne sounds good to me.
Andyvalver, you did well to beat a 2.5 GSI. One of those would have no trouble with an MR2.
megane coupe F7R
It was a v6. dunno if thats a gsi anyway. Didnt say i beat it!! I said i kept up with it up to 90mph. There not that good ya no. They weigh loads more than a clio and i THINK they are only 167bhp
bit of a price gap though between the two. a valver and an MR2 Mk2 are prolly more inline with each other. obviously id choose the valver... but im here on a Clio site, so pretty much goes without saying... and I cant cut hair either... or wax legs... or any other stereo type i cant remember.
thats why i sold mine. couldnt put up with being called nicky clarke anymore. ill never understand the hairdresser comments though. on the limit it was a f**king handful. in the wet with that power at the rear wheels, no lsd or traction control and it got very hairy.and mine had 700 quids worth of fancy suspension on it. puts the clio to shame for overall build quality etc etc.
Might have been the 2.6 V6, they aint as quick as those 200bhp GSIs. There is also a non GSI 2.5 IIRC which has a lot less power than the GSI.
To be honest Id get a GSI instead of an MR2. Its a faster car but more practical car and you get a newer lower mileage car for the same price. Of course most people would pick the MR2 but when you look at the facts that can only be due to the styling hence its batty hairdresser reputation.
megane coupe F7R
Im sure you know i ment any Gti golf. Not a vr6. lol. They still weigh as much as a house thow.Quote: Originally posted by Sami on 24 November 2004
I would have thought the 3.2 vr6 would also give a valver a run for its money being about 237bhp and all...
_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
Valvers can stay with VR6s to 110ish or mine can anyways. Done it a fair few times. I can have the edge to this aswel but after itll just piss on me.
2.5 V6 vectras are pants and so are MR2s. lol This is the whole problem of me getting a new car. theres nothing worth replacing it with!
megane coupe F7R
Well said mate. Totally agree. I want a clio 172 next but they dont even look or feel sporty enough.
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