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CLIO Iceberg 172
Hold ya horses hahahaha i havnt even got a design yet its day one! i was just throwing some ideas around to see if people would A: be interested and B worth it lol
i could just be pissing in the wind for all i know but im gonna give it a lot of consideration and will report back with findings and design ideas and concepts
this isnt somthing to be done over the weekend lol
will take it slow, and once i have a few ideas ill start a topic in the projects thread
in the meantime if anyone has any ideas or a 'my two cents' please post and pm me and ill take everything into consideration
cheers guys
G51 BEN
if you could get it all done tonight and ship it out tomorrow il have one.... joking
CLIO Iceberg 172
lol you sound like my boss lol
Ph1 airbox is a lot smaller than the Maxogen
Dont want to put a downer on all this but theres tonnes of induction kits to choose from already out there at various different price levels etc. Best kit is the Maxogen so say you decided to make a cheaper version, im guessing if it was similer looking you could be in breach of copyright regs?
You'd have more success tyring to develop a way to stop the aux belt coming off and taking the cam with it.
A better designed rear exhaust mount (always a problem on Clio Sports)
Better designed cat to manifold spring kit piece.
Silenced decat for 182 manifold conversions (no companys produce one off the shelf)
etc etc etc
You'd have more success tyring to develop a way to stop the aux belt coming off and taking the cam with it.
A better designed rear exhaust mount (always a problem on Clio Sports)
Better designed cat to manifold spring kit piece.
Silenced decat for 182 manifold conversions (no companys produce one off the shelf)
etc etc etc
Standard airbox + ITG panel is fine for pretty much anything on a standard inlet manifold.
ITB AB65 airbox if you really, really must have an aftermarket airbox.
Airbox design is not just about producing it cheaply. If by CAD you mean you can draw up a set of plans then thats all good but there is a lot more to it than that!
Cheers
M
ITB AB65 airbox if you really, really must have an aftermarket airbox.
Airbox design is not just about producing it cheaply. If by CAD you mean you can draw up a set of plans then thats all good but there is a lot more to it than that!
Cheers
M
maybe better starting a new thread mate!!
FLOL at that 
Awesome
Awesome
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MRBILLYUK
ClioSport Club Member
FF Jeden Osiem Dwa
Acrylic sheet is a thermo plastic , i make the stuff , Perspex®
. 1mm would be too thin and flimsy even though it would gain some strength when formed , 1.5mm - 2mm would be ideal for vac forming .
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
screams pikey to me
Calm down dear. I only did it to see how much induction noise I could get out of it.
172 5HED
172 phII
This is how its sorted on my car.
Did some testing on RStuner CAI vs stock and IMO there is no difference between these two EXCEPT temp of air in the manifold. So some sort of heat shield - resistance material ( no metal ) is a must have when thinking about this.
On a hot summer day it makes a significant difference and a nice sound too
Did some testing on RStuner CAI vs stock and IMO there is no difference between these two EXCEPT temp of air in the manifold. So some sort of heat shield - resistance material ( no metal ) is a must have when thinking about this.
On a hot summer day it makes a significant difference and a nice sound too
LRAB65
lol at the man that puts up a part number and says no more, is that for mk2 or mk3
lol at kev.
Bit of an ITG lesson for you. There are 3 maxogen boxes. AB, BAB and RAB. The one used on the 1*2 is the AB. The one used on the 197 is the RAB. then there are various sizes, mainly used are the 65 and 80. The 1*2 and 197s both use 65s. So a a 1*2 uses an AB65, and a 197 a RAB65.
Then there are the alluminimum versions, of which at the the moment I believe the only shape available is the RAB shape. The addition of the L at the start signifies its an alluminum box.
L - allumnium
RAB - box shape
65 - box size
Bit of an ITG lesson for you. There are 3 maxogen boxes. AB, BAB and RAB. The one used on the 1*2 is the AB. The one used on the 197 is the RAB. then there are various sizes, mainly used are the 65 and 80. The 1*2 and 197s both use 65s. So a a 1*2 uses an AB65, and a 197 a RAB65.
Then there are the alluminimum versions, of which at the the moment I believe the only shape available is the RAB shape. The addition of the L at the start signifies its an alluminum box.
L - allumnium
RAB - box shape
65 - box size
CLIO Iceberg 172
i was just having a look at some of the box's floating around in the whole v6 style of things and i came across a few designs that look very simuler,
has anyone thought about the following:
the landrover discovery 300d airbox
and the 1998 renault scenic airbox
has anyone thought about the following:
the landrover discovery 300d airbox
and the 1998 renault scenic airbox
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This is how its sorted on my car.
Did some testing on RStuner CAI vs stock and IMO there is no difference between these two EXCEPT temp of air in the manifold. So some sort of heat shield - resistance material ( no metal ) is a must have when thinking about this.
On a hot summer day it makes a significant difference and a nice sound too
The inlet pipe isnt pure foam is it?
Should be a difference in flow aswell due to being less restrictive with that set up ?
sorry removed all the "DIY Maxogen" pics from my photobucket
current set up is like this,
All i need is a trailer and some headlight blanks for a direct cold air feed, but as i still use it on the road thats not possible at the moment.
That airbox is about £60 from renault, £5 for a samco straight and £35 for the ITG filter element, no point buying a maxogen really, only for the looks, or doing a new cheaper one form scratch
there might be more info on here - http://clio-motorsport.blogspot.com/
current set up is like this,
All i need is a trailer and some headlight blanks for a direct cold air feed, but as i still use it on the road thats not possible at the moment.
That airbox is about £60 from renault, £5 for a samco straight and £35 for the ITG filter element, no point buying a maxogen really, only for the looks, or doing a new cheaper one form scratch
there might be more info on here - http://clio-motorsport.blogspot.com/
sorry removed all the "DIY Maxogen" pics from my photobucket
current set up is like this,
All i need is a trailer and some headlight blanks for a direct cold air feed, but as i still use it on the road thats not possible at the moment.
That airbox is about £60 from renault, £5 for a samco straight and £35 for the ITG filter element, no point buying a maxogen really, only for the looks, or doing a new cheaper one form scratch
there might be more info on here - http://clio-motorsport.blogspot.com/
Only for the looks? I think not. It's hella expensive, but nothing performs better in my experience (although I'm yet to try the ghetto approach. I've tried the rest!)
And not in the opinion of Technical Director for BPM, No 1 Mechanic for TW and Technical Engineer for Pectel Engine Control Systems either.
"In terms of aftermarket airboxes the ITG AB65/AB80 airbox is pretty much at the top of the game. Short of paying a lot of money to have a company design an induction/filtration setup specificaly for the requried application you'll struggle to outdo a well done setup with an AB65/AB80 at the heart of it."
CLIO Iceberg 172
but how can it be so good if its basically the same as the above.... i cant understand how you can make a tube out of plastic stick a filter in there with a silicon elbow and charge 300+ quid for it yet for some reason doing the exact same thing using non itg products you get less power...how can to products made the same and placed in the same situation produce a vast diffrence in power,
i think it could be only down to intake tempuratures, mabe the carbon really dose make a huge about of diffrence in reflecting the heat and protecting the temp inside the unit, but surely this shouldnt matter when going allong the road
i think it could be only down to intake tempuratures, mabe the carbon really dose make a huge about of diffrence in reflecting the heat and protecting the temp inside the unit, but surely this shouldnt matter when going allong the road
172 phII
The inlet pipe isnt pure foam is it?
Should be a difference in flow aswell due to being less restrictive with that set up ?
No mate, inside of its a plastic tube ( more of them actually - used for drainage ) made into one and then wrapped with a thermo isolated foam.
Restriction differences are more-less the same - both are around 20 - 24 millibars ( from 2k rpm till 7500 rpm ) but the temp difference is noticeable in favor of CAI of course.
At that time i didnt have PTFE gasket as I have know and my intake manifold has been rebored and port matched.
Maybe it looks a bit pikeysh but I love the sound and difference in performance, not to mention DIY approach and low cost
i probably didnt word what i said very well, theres no doubt that the maxogen is the best air box for the clio, but i wasnt going to pay near on 400 quid for it, If i could get my hands on just the box and filter at a reasonable price i would try it back to back with the espace v6 air box, id have to move the ECU and catch tank/get a longer samco straight tho. i think removing the inlet bend made the biggest difference, but comes with the ballache of relocating, using a different battery.
I was going to say that getting rid of the 90 degree elbow will have made as much difference as anything.
I've no doubt that the way you've done it is perfectly fine. But it pisses me off that people make out the Maxogen is crap and pointless when a) They've never tried one and b) the only reason they say so is because they can't justify the cost.
It's the best there is. It's down to the individual whether they consider the extra little bit to be worth the cost. Law of diminishing returns etc....
I've no doubt that the way you've done it is perfectly fine. But it pisses me off that people make out the Maxogen is crap and pointless when a) They've never tried one and b) the only reason they say so is because they can't justify the cost.
It's the best there is. It's down to the individual whether they consider the extra little bit to be worth the cost. Law of diminishing returns etc....
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It couldn't be much more different. Bigger filter, different shape, different inlet, different material....
