CLIO IV RS - Trophy from page 111

[rs 1an]

My point was I assumed you had driven one from your post.

I wondered what your thoughts were on the R32 over the clio RS.

I assumed wrongly and was sucked in by your trolling.

I've driven both incidentally.

I agree with J:approve: i think your post was insulting to Cliosport members.

 

[nius02]

Don't know if it was discussed yet; I just got the information from my dealer that Renault will present a new Clio RS special edition with 230 HP at the Geneva Motor Show starting 6. March

 

[Gaz_]

Ooooh

 

[Chris V6 255]

This is from this months EVO.
It was always gonna happen! How many different versions of the meg 250 have we had since 2010?

 

[.LiamC.]

I have still never seen one on the road!

 

[nius02]

also a gearbox software update to reduce the lazines will be available in the next few weeks.

 

[jamier27]

Meg took 2 yrs til the trophy came out as last version of 250. In 2012 the 265 was released with minimum face changes and I think later this year a new facelift is being released.

So maybe that will be a pattern they'll follow.. Every 2 years release a change??

 

[182Trophy]

I have still never seen one on the road!

Me neither! What are peoples thoughts of the paddle shift only? Put me off from the start. 230+hp with a manual box and some different styling and it would make me think.

 

[BoatNonce]

TBH Renault didn't make the gearbox or the engine so they'll outlast the car.

 

[Gally]

Meg took 2 yrs til the trophy came out as last version of 250. In 2012 the 265 was released with minimum face changes and I think later this year a new facelift is being released.

So maybe that will be a pattern they'll follow.. Every 2 years release a change??

By that time the ST will be so far gone!

Probably an ST500 with leather and stickers I imagine.

 

[Matt W]

Meg took 2 yrs til the trophy came out as last version of 250. In 2012 the 265 was released with minimum face changes and I think later this year a new facelift is being released.

So maybe that will be a pattern they'll follow.. Every 2 years release a change??

Renault need to do something about the clio ASAP in my opinion. The Polo R is confirmed and should be an epic little car!

 

[steve32c]

Me neither! What are peoples thoughts of the paddle shift only? Put me off from the start. 230+hp with a manual box and some different styling and it would make me think.

The paddle shift is fine, it seems slow to people because it's there at your fingers and people expect the change to be instant. its still quicker than moving your hand pushing the clutch and then releasing. Well for me anyway especially in race mode. You can also change gear by using the gear stick which actually seems to change gear quicker than the paddles as it's probably physically connected rather than electrically. As for the brakes, they are fierce, some very good stopping power. As for the keyboard race drivers who scream for brembo's, drive one first they aren't needed on the road.

 

[182Trophy]

The paddle shift is fine, it seems slow to people because it's there at your fingers and people expect the change to be instant. its still quicker than moving your hand pushing the clutch and then releasing. Well for me anyway especially in race mode. You can also change gear by using the gear stick which actually seems to change gear quicker than the paddles as it's probably physically connected rather than electrically. As for the brakes, they are fierce, some very good stopping power. As for the keyboard race drivers who scream for brembo's, drive one first they aren't needed on the road.

Thanks for the reply. How do you find the use of the torque compared to the 182?

 

[steve32c]

Thanks for the reply. How do you find the use of the torque compared to the 182?

Its a lot smoother in delivery and because of the size and build of the car your travelling quicker/faster than you realise. If it's left in auto and you put your foot down hard it drops the gears and suddenly it's off with no drama or hissy fits compared to having to get the 182 up in the revs before it lets loose.

 

[Gally]

According to a journo it feels worse/slower than the dsg box that was in my 53 plate V6 TT.

Yeah, that's over 10 years ago.

 

[Gaz_]

^ Link?

 

[Gally]

I'll try and find it. Was from Twitter last year, iirc was Autocar worker.

I've not driven the Clio yet. As we know there aren't many of them.

 

[BoatNonce]

There's quite a few journo's who've said it's a bit slow. Chris Harris found it wonderfully fast though.

 

[Gaz_]

I've seen quite a few round here (Cheshire) I know of where a LY lives, and see a black one regularly too. I think they have potential tbh, be interesting to see a more focused version.

 

[Martin_172]

admit defeat Renault, stick a 6 speed manual in it, hell even the old 197/200 box that everyone loves to moan about, stick a diff in it, drop it 15mm, give it a 15% power boost, 20% torque boost, give it recaros that we all have to teach our birds how to get in and out without rubbing the side bolster so they don't wear stick a mean ass looking front splitter on it that deflects the attention from that silly front end.


and is a cheap pcp deal too much to ask for to go with all of that?

EDIT: also, I like change, I was all for turbo power, 5 doors etc etc, the gearbox I was unsure about, a 30 minute test drive also wouldn't be enough to help me make my mind up on it enough to buy one, what I wish is that Renault would have some faith in the gearbox, be proud of it, offer 24hr test drives like they done when the new laguna came out, every dealer gets one, give us all 24hrs to live with it and see what we think, then tempt us with a good deal and I bet they would start to sell!

 

[brisa4984]

admit defeat Renault, stick a 6 speed manual in it, hell even the old 197/200 box that everyone loves to moan about, stick a diff in it, drop it 15mm, give it a 15% power boost, 20% torque boost, give it recaros that we all have to teach our birds how to get in and out without rubbing the side bolster so they don't wear stick a mean ass looking front splitter on it that deflects the attention from that silly front end.


and is a cheap pcp deal too much to ask for to go with all of that?

EDIT: also, I like change, I was all for turbo power, 5 doors etc etc, the gearbox I was unsure about, a 30 minute test drive also wouldn't be enough to help me make my mind up on it enough to buy one, what I wish is that Renault would have some faith in the gearbox, be proud of it, offer 24hr test drives like they done when the new laguna came out, every dealer gets one, give us all 24hrs to live with it and see what we think, then tempt us with a good deal and I bet they would start to sell!

sounds like a 265?

 

[BoatNonce]

I'm convinced they're trying to kill the RS clio off tbh. There is no other logical explanation to design a car which goes out of its way to alienate the existing market, and then expend no effort whatsoever in advertising to its new market.

I don't even know what the RS clio advert looks like, if there is one?

 

[Jaff.]

I'm convinced they're trying to kill the RS clio off tbh. There is no other logical explanation to design a car which goes out of its way to alienate the existing market, and then expend no effort whatsoever in advertising to its new market.

I don't even know what the RS clio advert looks like, if there is one?

A few of my mates on Facebook (one of them a photographer, all of them Renault enthusiasts) didn't even know the RS was out, or that it was 5 door only. It's been nearly a year Ffs

 

[steve32c]

I'm convinced they're trying to kill the RS clio off tbh. There is no other logical explanation to design a car which goes out of its way to alienate the existing market, and then expend no effort whatsoever in advertising to its new market.

I don't even know what the RS clio advert looks like, if there is one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZitgBkDEjQ

 

[BoatNonce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZitgBkDEjQ

What the f**k is going on with that status bar that keeps popping up? Please tell me they weren't so f**king lazy that they just screengrabbed their advert to put it on youtube. Christ almighty, that just shows how much they care.

 

[steve32c]

What the f**k is going on with that status bar that keeps popping up? Please tell me they weren't so f**king lazy that they just screengrabbed their advert to put it on youtube. Christ almighty, that just shows how much they care.

If you find the original ad it's interactive

 

[Matt W]

Renault don't even let people test drive a car without paying for it first, let alone a 24h test drive!

I've been waiting since august to have a test drive in the 200T, where as ford just offered me the keys to a fiesta ST straight away.

 

[BoatNonce]

It may well be, but I'd expect the IT department of a large international car company to be able to use the source video that they used to make the interactive version, and upload that to youtube, rather than crack out FRAPS and make something which quite frankly is embarassing.

Doesn't matter anyway, as only a thousand people have seen it.

 

[Martin_172]

sounds like a 265?

a baby 265 at clio prices!

 

[Matthew]

Lets face it, it's been a huge failure.

I have seen two since they 'came out'. Even then I had to look really hard to tell it was an RS.

God knows what they were thinking. They can't have sold many?

 

[182Trophy]

Apparently VW are bringing out a Polo R like mentioned in a previous thread. The spec that is rumored (if it happens, unlikely though) embarrasses the clio spec. A new model with the same performance as the last one (200) and only (maybe not) quicker than their model of 10+ years ago. Why? Why not make it at least 230-250bhp, 3 and 5 door options with a decent manual box. How much will people be paying for repairs/replacements on the paddle shift box in a few years when it does break or go wrong out of warranty? Threatens the Meganes performance? Make the next one 300+hp then. Sorry rant over.

 

[BoatNonce]

Lets face it, it's been a huge failure

But the question is whether it was deliberate.

 

[m4rkie23]

When was this released? I've been away for a while but didn't even realise they had released a new 200?
I worked on the stand next to Renault at GoodWood last year so I can only presume it was after the summer?
An auto, 5 door sport. oh my

 

[182Trophy]

But the question is whether it was deliberate.

Why would they though?

 

[BoatNonce]

Why would they though?

Because for whatever reason they want to phase the RS clio out I guess. Making all the special bumpers etc for the RS clios, plus the engines, drivetrain etc and then putting it all together on seperate assembly lines eats into the profit and can end up making it seem pointless to make the effort for little return.

 

[182Trophy]

Because for whatever reason they want to phase the RS clio out I guess. Making all the special bumpers etc for the RS clios, plus the engines, drivetrain etc and then putting it all together on seperate assembly lines eats into the profit and can end up making it seem pointless to make the effort for little return.

Wouldn't they then have to replace it with a new model to compete in the market for a small hatch though? Or am I missing something here?

 

[Jaff.]

Wouldn't they then have to replace it with a new model to compete in the market for a small hatch though? Or am I missing something here?

Twingo

 

[BoatNonce]

I'm guessing they'd just concentrate on the Megane.

Although with the Twingo one side and the Megane on the other, both squeezing inwards, will there be a Clio for evermore?

 

[182Trophy]

Twingo

They really would be pissing on their chips if this is the case! Would be laughable tbh. Thanks for the replies.

 

[BoatNonce]

They really would be pissing on their chips if this is the case!

This is Renault!