Clio V6 MK1 or MK2??

[Naughty Boy]

Ok so I have received a deposit for the AMG today so now on the hunt for another car. I was going to spend 18k on a MK2. However due to a very large conversion (bungalow - house) I need to release some contingency funds.

so I have a choice of either buying a low ish mileage Mk1 V6 12k

http://www.andytmotors.co.uk/used-c...ultsport-230-3dr-fridaybridge-201406265331160

Or a high miler V6 Mk2 for slightly more. 13-14k

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=478359

i really wanted a MK2 but obviously now out of my price range. Should I be put off by the milage? Any opinions welcomed ;-)

 

[.GAZ.]

Need a login for the Mk2 link.

I'd be going for the Mk2 if it's had all the right work done, at the right time and it's a decent colour.

 

[ColinG]

Out of those 2 cars I'd take the ph1 all day long;

That mk2 has been wrapped in white vinyl before, and the ph1 has some tasty extras like KW's and janspeed, and as it says is known to SG Motorsport which is the UK holy grail for clio V6's.

 

[Naughty Boy]

I guess the main reason for being against the MK1 is the interior, I hate it!!!

 

[Chili Red]

I'd want the Mk 2 but would get advice on here about any potential buys - like the one above.

 

[Naughty Boy]

Just updated the link for MK2.

 

[Bluebeard]

Mad to think that we were struggling to get £8500 for mk1 V6's about 5 years ago. Now they're like rocking horse s**t and going up in value every 12 months!

 

[Dan]

I like the outside of the mk1s sightly more but the interior isn't as nice as the mk2s but I suppose you can swap in some trophy recaros and it's all good again

Low miles mk1 would be my choice due to them only going up in price from now on!

 

[Pep]

For me, would be the MK1. I think with these cars it's much more important to get a minter that will go up in value and sell easily, over a scruffy newer version that no-one is really going to want come sale time.

 

[McGherkin]

I guess the main reason for being against the MK1 is the interior, I hate it!!!

You could always change it

 

[ben_r1]

Mk1s the better looking car IMO.

 

[Ex-User (60778)]

Mk1

 

[Martin_172]

Im starting to like the retro look of the mk1 V6 more and more now. used to think they were a little bland compaired to the mk2, the mk2 (and mk2 ph2 clios in general) have aged quite well and still look pretty modern! so for me it would be a low millage good condition mk1 as its a safe investment id say!

 

[ChrisP_182]

Mk 1 and if the interior is an issue just change it and keep the original and swap it back in when it comes to selling

 

[ChrisR]

Mad to think that we were struggling to get £8500 for mk1 V6's about 5 years ago. Now they're like rocking horse s**t and going up in value every 12 months!

Just what I was thinking, doesn't seem that long ago I remember decent examples up for 9k and not really selling!

 

[Martin_172]

the mk1 interior looked dated in 2001 when the ph2 style interior turned up but now I think it just looks retro and awesome!

 

[hdsn555]

Mad to think that we were struggling to get £8500 for mk1 V6's about 5 years ago. Now they're like rocking horse s**t and going up in value every 12 months!

My Brother-in-law just bought a Mk1 Vee, seems like he paid a good price compared to the one in the OP, the previous owner had spent a couple of grand on it having the front resprayed and kept it in a heated garage.

Edit: Lower milage too.

 

[Naughty Boy]

My Brother-in-law just bought a Mk1 Vee, seems like he paid a good price compared to the one in the OP, the previous owner had spent a couple of grand on it having the front resprayed and kept it in a heated garage.

Edit: Lower milage too.

Great help ;-)

there is another on pistonheads as we speak with 30k in the clock kept in a air chamber. Looks mint, but 700 f**king miles away!!!

 

[AlexW]

I've always prefered the Ph2 V6, Ph1's are special, but not as much.

That Ph2 would take some work to return it to standard properly, vents in front bumper, that spoiiler and a few other bits.

 

[hdsn555]

I've always prefered the Ph2 V6, Ph1's are special, but not as much.

That Ph2 would take some work to return it to standard properly, vents in front bumper, that spoiiler and a few other bits.

I prefer the Ph2's aswell, but I think there will be a point where the value of the Ph1's will take over the Ph2's. Providing you look after either, these cars are an investment.

 

[Scrooge]

Ph1

 

[Stefan.]

Out of those two links

The ph1 easy!

i would be more than happy with either a mk1 or mk2 in standard form though

 

[Chris V6 255]

As others have said out of the 2 in question the ph1 gets my vote.

If your budget is sub 15k you will not get a decent ph2.

I am budgeting between 17-20k for my next ph2.

If I don't get one this year then I think they are going to appreciate out of reach for a 'weekend toy'

 

[cat171]

I'd buy that Phase 1.
I do agree that the interior is sh*t, but it's not, sh*t sh*t.

 

[Chris V6 255]

I'm running a ph1 172 at the minute. The interior isn't that bad

 

[Connor19]

Ph1 for me, I have always like the look of the ph1's

 

[Iain C]

Id get the mk2, remove the nasty spoiler and paint the wheels silver.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Don't be put off by the bullshit surrounding the phs1 being "dangerous" - that stems from a load of journalists rocking up and driving them (and also crashing i believe) for 1 day

for both the ph1 and ph2 you need to spend a good 6months with it to "understand" it

the gearlinkage on the phs1 is naff, but fear not that can by modified easily to replicate the phs2, if you fancy a drive mine is available

 

[cat171]

Don't be put off by the bulls**t surrounding the phs1 being "dangerous" - that stems from a load of journalists rocking up and driving them (and also crashing i believe) for 1 day

for both the ph1 and ph2 you need to spend a good 6months with it to "understand" it

the gearlinkage on the phs1 is naff, but fear not that can by modified easily to replicate the phs2, if you fancy a drive mine is available

Weirdly the reviews on YT all say how well the Phase 1 handles (apart from the Autocar one iirc)
Hammond & a woman reviewed it on Men & Motors too & raved about the handling :S

 

[Naughty Boy]

Don't be put off by the bulls**t surrounding the phs1 being "dangerous" - that stems from a load of journalists rocking up and driving them (and also crashing i believe) for 1 day

for both the ph1 and ph2 you need to spend a good 6months with it to "understand" it

the gearlinkage on the phs1 is naff, but fear not that can by modified easily to replicate the phs2, if you fancy a drive mine is available

Cheers fred, yours for sale ;-)

This is the low miler, 10hrs drive though ffs

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/renault/clio-v6/renault-clio-v6/2685292

 

[Fred@BTM]

Throw enough money at me and it is! Mileage isn't an issue for them mechanically, just affects value

 

[cat171]

Cheers fred, yours for sale ;-)

This is the low miler, 10hrs drive though ffs

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/renault/clio-v6/renault-clio-v6/2685292

As it's up there, it might be an idea to see if Ali can take a look ?

 

[Naughty Boy]

Is yours a good one or used and abused ;-)

 

[ddouble]

Its nice to read all the phase one love in this thread. The interior including tape deck and general look of the phase one in 100% standard set up does have a 'period' appeal to it all now. Its ageing well!

As for the orignal question, buy on condition and service history.
Phase one or two, doesnt really matter, they are both great cars. Very similar in all aspects, despite almost all components being different.


I would recommend that you go and see both examples your considering - and as many other v6s as you possibly can!
Looking at photos in adverts does give you a rough idea, but once you have seen loads of these up close you realise condition varies massively, even when price appears not too. Its worth travelling to get a good one.

Try not to fall into the trap of buying the first one you see. This is easier said than done though!

 

[Fred@BTM]

Is yours a good one or used and abused ;-)

Its a good one that's been used as it should afterall what's the point in buying it if its not going to be driven! SharkyUK he borrowed it for a while, he'll tell you if its a nail or not

 

[Naughty Boy]

Its a good one that's been used as it should afterall what's the point in buying it if its not going to be driven! @SharkyUK he borrowed it for a while, he'll tell you if its a nail or not

Phase 1 or 2?

 

[Gareth]

Fred's is a Black MK2

 

[Naughty Boy]

Out of my price league than :-(

 

[SharkyUK]

Its a good one that's been used as it should afterall what's the point in buying it if its not going to be driven! SharkyUK he borrowed it for a while, he'll tell you if its a nail or not

It's a shed. Absolutely hanging...

Seriously, it's a beauty. Drives beautifully and a great gear change. Driven as RenaultSport intended but properly looked after and maintained. I loved it.
Fred@BTM has the Ph2. I borrowed it for quite some time and didn't want to give it back. If I wasn't spending so much on my Trophy and moving house, I'd have made Fred a serious offer myself. It has a few stone chips but no dramas. It's been enjoyed and these minor blemishes are easily sorted.

 

[Naughty Boy]

It's a shed. Absolutely hanging...

Seriously, it's a beauty. Drives beautifully and a great gear change. Driven as RenaultSport intended but properly looked after and maintained. I loved it.
@Fred@BTM has the Ph2. I borrowed it for quite some time and didn't want to give it back. If I wasn't spending so much on my Trophy and moving house, I'd have made Fred a serious offer myself. It has a few stone chips but no dramas. It's been enjoyed and these minor blemishes are easily sorted.

Pmd