Discovered my 172 is an Import

sneeks · Feb 13, 2006

I'm not sure. For now I've said I'll return the car but I'm not 100% sure that's what I really want to do. Do you reckon £6350 is a fair price for a imported 02 172 with 33k miles on the clock? On looking online the same dealer are charging closer to £8000 for the same spec of car but at obviously UK spec.

Macca172 · Feb 13, 2006

It is a good price... If the cars good it would be a shame to hand it back over a £300 alarm. Maybe let the dealer sweat a bit and see if they back down a bit over the alarm.

Ross M · Feb 13, 2006

i think its a good deal as theres bugger all difference in them. just think its lighter without the alarm

lol

thedoc · Feb 13, 2006

£6350 is a fair price for a imported 02 172 with 33k miles on the clock
= good price.

Tadpole172 · Feb 13, 2006

When will people realise that if its an EU vehicle then it IS NOT an import. Where exactly do you think these cars are made? They are all made in the same damn factory. The only difference is that UK cars come RHD with alarms and wheel nuts (and they are fitted at the dealer).

Macca172 · Feb 13, 2006

Tadpole172 said:
When will people realise that if its an EU vehicle then it IS NOT an import. Where exactly do you think these cars are made? They are all made in the same damn factory. The only difference is that UK cars come RHD with alarms and wheel nuts (and they are fitted at the dealer).

I take it you haven't read the 7 pages on this thread about the difference in specs between UK and Non UK Spec?

sneeks · Feb 13, 2006

All I'm looking for is agreement from them to pay for the alarm and all is good. The salesman has just phoned me and requested that I fax him the alarm fitting quote and he'll see what he can do.

MRBILLYUK · Feb 13, 2006

Tadpole172 said:
When will people realise that if its an EU vehicle then it IS NOT an import. Where exactly do you think these cars are made? They are all made in the same damn factory. The only difference is that UK cars come RHD with alarms and wheel nuts (and they are fitted at the dealer).

It is an import mate . Phone Renault UK and they will tell you that also .
I'm on my second import , difference being no alarm , no window etchings and no locking wheel nuts .
Also the warranty is only 12 months if it was from a dealership in Holland or if it was destined for Cyprus .
If its from EU , it will have the full 3 year warranty and full 3 year AA assistance from the time it entered the country .
I bought my 182 just over a week ago but entered the country in October last year , delivery mileage .But because its been here for 3 months it only has 33 months warranty left and 33 months AA assistance .

If you call Renault UK customer service and give em your vin number they will tell you exactly what you are or are not entitled to and the origin and where the car was destined for .

Tel. 08000 723372

MrBillyUK !

MRBILLYUK · Feb 13, 2006

sneeks said:
All I'm looking for is agreement from them to pay for the alarm and all is good. The salesman has just phoned me and requested that I fax him the alarm fitting quote and he'll see what he can do.

Give Dennis a call , caralarmwarehouse , Toad approved fitter. Get a Toad fitted at home or work , example , Cat 1 Toad A850T with glass brakeage sensor £300 fitted , lifetime warranty to. He's sh*t hot , travelled over 200 miles to fit mine last Friday , second time i've used him .

Tel . 07980 221525

MrBillyUK !

chris182 · Feb 13, 2006

Mr.Billy, did you get the AA cover then? Only ask because mines an import (motorpoint) but no mention of it.

Got 3 years warranty, but no AA.

MRBILLYUK · Feb 13, 2006

chris182 said:
Mr.Billy, did you get the AA cover then? Only ask because mines an import (motorpoint) but no mention of it.

Got 3 years warranty, but no AA.

Got mine from motorpoint as well . He told me i get 24 months Renault warranty and " NO " AA assistance .
Renault customer services told me different . 33 months warranty and AA assistance

Give em a bell , you'll need your vin number

MrBillyUK !

chris182 · Feb 13, 2006

MRBILLYUK said:
Got mine from motorpoint as well . He told me i get 24 months Renault warranty and " NO " AA assistance .
Renault customer services told me different . 33 months warranty and AA assistance Give em a bell , you'll need your vin number

MrBillyUK !

Cheers for that.

Anyone else with an import told the same?

Ally · Feb 13, 2006

I'm also an EU-sourced, Motorpoint-supplied owner and wasn't aware of the AA cover... Was actually thinking about buying some cover before the next long distance trip I do - think I'll be on the phone to Renault UK instead! When I bought it I was told I had 12 months warranty and had to apply to Renault UK for my 24 month extension. Which i did, only to be told I already had my full 3 year warranty :S . But turns out my car arrived in the UK 2.5 months before it was registered, hence I got 33.5 months warranty

sneeks · Feb 13, 2006

An update for all those people who haven't lost the will to live due to reading this thread previously and who continue to come back for more

I'm keeping the car. The dealer came to an agreement regarding the alarm and locking wheelnuts. All is good and I'm finally happy to say I own the car. Phew!!!!!!

Ross M · Feb 13, 2006

ill need to phone renault uk too then. see if i have the full 3 years warranty and aa cover. i took out extended garuntee with the dealer thinking it was only 2 years as standard so will that extended warranty extend onto the end of the 3 years ?? or is it now non-existant if i do infact have the standard 3 years warranty ?

EunicesBarber · Feb 13, 2006

Bought a 172 52 plate import few days ago. NO trip computer.

sneeks · Feb 13, 2006

The 172 I own does have the trip computer, I'd forgot to mention that.

BIG jts · Feb 13, 2006

Theres nothing wrong with imports you just dont get a few bits and bobs, see loads come into the dealership where i work... just remember if you same 20% at the front then you will lose this + all the way down the line on a import so no diff in end price than anyother car because you saved the money at the front and then lose it at the end, but some people get upset because they save at the front and then want the same as a uk car at the end, just doesnt happen.....

Ed_182 · Feb 13, 2006

my 182 is an import, only difference is that it did'nt come with an alarm

sneeks · Feb 13, 2006

It's here to stay now and I'm happy with that

I can now stop moaning in this thread and give you all peace

MRBILLYUK · Feb 14, 2006

glasgow182 said:
ill need to phone renault uk too then. see if i have the full 3 years warranty and aa cover. i took out extended garuntee with the dealer thinking it was only 2 years as standard so will that extended warranty extend onto the end of the 3 years ?? or is it now non-existant if i do infact have the standard 3 years warranty ?

If Renault UK say you have a 3 year warranty i would get in contact with the dealer who sold you the extended warranty asap .Maybe they didn't know you might have the full Renault warranty , or maybe they sold you a warranty thats worth nothing.Then i would demand a refund or take it to the trading standards if they are unwilling to co-operate .
Let us know what the outcome is .

MrBillyUK !

Ally · Feb 14, 2006

Glad to hear you got it sorted out sneeks. Now take the car out and give it what it deserves - a right good thrashing

Window etching - http://www.retainagroup.com/index.html

I've stuck it up in s seperate thread too: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1374994#post1374994 - I posted it up in a seperate thread so anyone else with an import can find it if required. £24.95 for the kit.

Ally

sneeks · Feb 14, 2006

Thanks for the link Ally, I'll order myself one of those kits

Mark5290 · Feb 15, 2006

After reading through this thread i started to get a bit suspicious about the 182 i have just bought as whether it is a uk car or not because the vehicle is missing the window etching and the 'ISR' stickers, also the Renaultsport handbook is missing, my car does have the renault locking wheelnuts and the alarm is fitted but not working, red led off, also noticed the fuse cover clip broken under bonnet, windscreen washers packed up just after i got off motorway(no fluid) (B*stards).

The alarm fitted to my car is a different type (7887 Compact) to my brothers car, also he has plastic scuff plates on the in side of the sill where as mine does not, his car was registered in march 05, and mine in september 05.

A quick phone call to RCS did confirm mine was a UK car and not an 'import' , and that sometime in 2005 Renault stopped Etching windows

they also could not find the Renaultsport handbook on their system.

Right i can get some sleep now:sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:

sneeks · Feb 15, 2006

I'd recommend you get alot of those faults fixed under the warranty Mark.

I do have RenaultSport scuff plates on the inside of the sill, that's one thing my import did come with as standard

simonr · Feb 16, 2006

Sneeks, glad you got it sorted m8 to your satisfaction, looks like you have got a bargin (finally

)

Simon

sneeks · Feb 16, 2006

Thanks Simon I'm delighted with the car and I'm now having a look for a new stereo for it, selling my Blaupunkt DAB53 as I quite fancy a change of HU.

Alarm will be fitted next week, opted for a Viper system

Richard Burch · Nov 22, 2006

Hi all

I originally posted this thread, and just wanted to let you know that the HPI check that i picked up last night stated it was not an import, I called Renault Uk today and it is imported from the Netherlands (how does that work). So had to call my insurance company and basically i will need to get a CAT1 alarm fitted to fulfill the insurance criteria. My wife is now contacting the dealer (god help them!!!!) so will see if i can get them to fit an alarm as i feel like i have been shafted.

Still loving the car though

CUPCRAZY · Nov 22, 2006

Richard Burch said:
Hi all

I originally posted this thread, and just wanted to let you know that the HPI check that i picked up last night stated it was not an import, I called Renault Uk today and it is imported from the Netherlands (how does that work). So had to call my insurance company and basically i will need to get a CAT1 alarm fitted to fulfill the insurance criteria. My wife is now contacting the dealer (god help them!!!!) so will see if i can get them to fit an alarm as i feel like i have been shafted.

Still loving the car though

I would demand some money back as an import is worth less than a UK car.

Hope you got it for a good price.

MRBILLYUK · Nov 22, 2006

^^^ Don't talk silly . Have you got any proof they are worth less than so called UK models ?? Its the same car , made in the same factory , just no cobra alarm ( 18 month warranty ) , no locking wheel nuts , etched windows on earlier RS models .

Solution :

Buy a cat 1 alarm with a lifetime warranty and some locking wheel nuts , job done.

Don't bother about etching the windows as the later RS models didn't have the windows etched anyway UK or imported .

Ali · Nov 22, 2006

Better cars!

Richard Burch · Nov 22, 2006

Just heard back from the dealer that they will pay for the Alarm to be fitted. So will call Renault and get it booked in. I guess im pretty lucky, although they didnt really have a leg to stand on. Also the fact that my wife is a nutter when something isnt right also helped i guess.

alexbleubolt · Nov 22, 2006

also ask for the locking wheel nuts chap, and get them to verify the raido security code

Richard Burch · Nov 22, 2006

Will do. Thanks for all the Forum help.

MRBILLYUK · Nov 22, 2006

^^^ Nice result mate

mk2_172_silver · Nov 22, 2006

My 172 is an import aswell but was sold to the lad i bought it off as a new UK car. its not stated on the log book as being imported, but when itook it to reno they said it must be cos my plate was not in their system. makes no difference to me like, still the same car, made in the same factory.

Richard Burch · Nov 22, 2006

Hi Sneeks

I too found out that mine was a Netherlands import today and i have only had the car for over a week. I went back to the dealership and advised them that i had taken advice from trading standards that technically they should know fully about the car and its origins and that i wanted them to pay for an alarm which they are doing.

Im assuming that your car has no alarm and basically like my insurance company they require a Thatcham approved CAT1 alarm as part of the insurance deal. As most non-imported cars came with an alarm means that your insurance assume that your car is fitted with this alarm.

The car is no different to any other UK-spec car apart from the alarm, window etching and locking wheel nuts.

Tell the dealer, you want an alarm fitted which is about £250.00 and a certificate to prove it, or you wont buy the car.

Apart from that im still loving the car.

fizzy_drink · Nov 22, 2006

My local dealer (Kings of Taunton) bought a black 182 off a customer as part-ex, not knowing that it's an import.

Owned.

cliovicky · Feb 1, 2007

My car is also an import, i bought mine with a toad alarm already fitted. Mine didnt have an alarm on it, which obviously shows you it is an import. You cant always tell a car is an import. Mine is an 03 plate so wont have any warranty. So whats the big deal if its an import. As long as they are looked after there is no problem

Mark hh · Feb 7, 2007

Hello all....

Just today found out that my 172 is a netherlands import, i bought it 6 weeks ago from a dealer not knowing, i have today gone back to the garage and told them that i want the alarm fitted and paid for by them, i do love the car and as long as they fit the alarm and bring it up to uk spec im happy... Thanks MR BILLY UK for the number of the alarm chap dennis i have called him and am gonna get the garage to pay for him to fit the cat 1 to my car... i know this thread has been going on for a long time but without it many people including me would have been stuck not knowing what to do or the diffs.... CHEERS GUYS

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