DTM turboed Black Gold 182

[DTM Cars Ltd]

Well with the history of Andyrg and his crazy turbo conversions we decided with dTM and clioturbo.co.uk we would make a forced induction clio.

The base car is a 60k 182 black gold with cup packs, and we purchased this as a none runner with a transmission issue.

Took it apart to find the gearbox had been replaced in the past with a 172 box and rhe diff circlip had fallen out.

We sorted a new jc5 from a 182 and got the parts ordered.

Brief spec list

9.0.1 pistons by wossigner
Pec I beam rods and arps
T28 Hybrid turbo
620cc injectors
Adaptronic ecu running fly bt wire
Helix paddle clutch
Custom intercooler kit
light and balanced crank and fly


The spec will go on but for the moment this is thw basics.

We hope for around 340hp and will be conveting to the vag box conversion once I have ran it in and done some testing

Thanks

Andyrg

Thanks to clioturbo.co.uk and also dtmcars.co.uk

 

[Craig.]

This will be good

 

[Tom-173]

Awsome! Another turbo 1*2!!!

 

[Andyrg@ ClioTurbo]

Supply

 

[dmallett]

This is going to be good!

Out of interest is there not a risk of the silicone hoses collapsing under pressure?

 

[Tom-173]

Is that the intercooler kit you said about andy?

 

[Cupman29]

Looks a good build Andy. Looking forward to the updates!
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This is going to be good!

Out of interest is there not a risk of the silicone hoses collapsing under pressure?

Why would they collapse when they are pressurised?

 

[Mr Plums]

I wish i could afford mine turbo'd/supercharged!

Anyone want to do it me for a good price lol.

Sounds very good mate

 

[Tom-173]

If your clio dont blow it sucks

 

[BIGASH]

Great stuff guys Look forward to see this progress! Good to see you decided to register as traders too

 

[dmallett]

Looks a good build Andy. Looking forward to the updates!
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Why would they collapse when they are pressurised?

I dont know nothing about it, people just always seem to squeeze them. So i thought i would ask the question lol

Or is it standard rubber hoses that collapse? or am i just going crazy!

 

[Cupman29]

I dont know nothing about it, people just always seem to squeeze them. So i thought i would ask the question lol

Or is it standard rubber hoses that collapse? or am i just going crazy!

They would only collapse on the suction side of turbo if they were too flimsy but 3 or 4 ply silicone is the stuff to go for. More likely to blo them off at the joints unless they have swaged ends.

 

[dmallett]

They would only collapse on the suction side of turbo if they were too flimsy but 3 or 4 ply silicone is the stuff to go for. More likely to blo them off at the joints unless they have swaged ends.

Well thats cleared that up for me! Thank you

 

[Andyrg@ ClioTurbo]

Is that the intercooler kit you said about andy?

No tom. This is just what I had knocking about

 

[Chip-mk1]

I dont know nothing about it, people just always seem to squeeze them. So i thought i would ask the question lol

Or is it standard rubber hoses that collapse? or am i just going crazy!

Only way a hose will collapse is under vacuum, so the only ones at risk of doing so are the ones BEFORE the turbo (ie between it and the air filter) if the airfilter is too restrictive.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I have been informed by NorthLoopCup the Clio 197 crank is 1.5kg lighter Unfortunately I found out too late to get one for mine but it would be a better starting point for you.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I have been informed by NorthLoopCup the Clio 197 crank is 1.5kg lighter Unfortunately I found out too late to get one for mine but it would be a better starting point for you.

On a turbo car where you arent pulling monstrous revs often, what do you perceive to be the benefit of a lighter crank out of interest?

Personally I find most cars drive nicer with a bit of momentum in the crank and flywheel anyway, stops the revs dipping too much when you are changing down gears etc.

 

[Chi]

Subscribed

 

[Cupman29]

Only way a hose will collapse is under vacuum, so the only ones at risk of doing so are the ones BEFORE the turbo (ie between it and the air filter) if the airfilter is too restrictive.

So as I said above then?

 

[Ph1 Tom]

On a turbo car where you arent pulling monstrous revs often, what do you perceive to be the benefit of a lighter crank out of interest?

Personally I find most cars drive nicer with a bit of momentum in the crank and flywheel anyway, stops the revs dipping too much when you are changing down gears etc.

I didn't say that. I was just helping out with info to satisfy the spec list from the OP.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I didn't say that. I was just helping out with info to satisfy the spec list from the OP.

Oh you mean he has a 197 crank fitted already but didnt know the weight difference?

I thought you were suggesting it was an uprgade to the 172 crank for a turbo.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Oh you mean he has a 197 crank fitted already but didnt know the weight difference?

I thought you were suggesting it was an uprgade to the 172 crank for a turbo.

No, he wants a lightened flywheel and crank. And getting a 197 crank at -1.5kg would be a better start than the 182 crank. That's what I was getting at.

 

[Chi]

So many different configurations and options to consider.. Minefield is not the word

 

[Chip-mk1]

No, he wants a lightened flywheel and crank. And getting a 197 crank at -1.5kg would be a better start than the 182 crank. That's what I was getting at.

Ah same question to him then really, what does he perceive as the advantage of a lighter crank on this engine?

 

[Chip-mk1]

So as I said above then?

apologies, had opened the message before your reply but not got back to that window till after it, so hadnt seen yours.

Yes, just as you said.

 

[DTM Cars Ltd]

Can you keep debates on others things off my project thread pleasr lads.

 

[dalealtham1]

Nice work Andy, can't wait for you to get your hands on my baby next month!

 

[Andyrg@ ClioTurbo]

Ohhh its alive and drives! Lol

 

[Tom-173]

Bloody hell lol!!! Come and finish mine

 

[Chi]

Pics and vids please

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

This will be some car when its finished going by Andy's past builds :approve:

 

[scott1205]

shame it wasn't finished the other day, never been in a turbo clio before

 

[DTM Cars Ltd]

Oh dear me. Weve just got a trophy in as a little show piece.

 

[Chi]

Pics!!!

 

[Tom-173]

Hows this coming along

 

[DTM Cars Ltd]

The bg is well.

Awaiting some bits now. But all runnng and sounding well. Will update the project soon

 

[JamesWilson]

Think I need to bring my 172 back and have you turbo it, have to come see this!

 

[DTM Cars Ltd]

Please call in any time.

There has been a small issie with this the turbo we were sold as new and refurbed looks like its been shot blasted and cleaned up and no knes fittted the bearings back in :/

So after a dispute with PayPal over £700 we have just sorted out a new one from E.D

Andys on holiday this week but progress will start on his return

 

[Chi]

Any news?

 

[boom]

Any news?

Is this not the one andy was breaking?