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Frayz's Inferno 182 - Back in the old flame
David Stuart
ClioSport Club Member
Great effort. I’m about to start lining the camper van and it’s going to be a big effort. But looking forward to seeing the difference it makes.
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Krarl
ClioSport Club Member
About time you got those expensive tools of yours dirty👀😂
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Oh I don’t use them... I just put them in photos for show. I use a rusty adjustable spanner and bent screwdriver for all jobs. 🤣🤣
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Take your time mate and spit the job into sections. The layer system with deadener, foam, insulation works remarkably well.
Ph2 172, R34 Skyline
Great job. The seat mount cracking is a surprising one, is that common?
The morning runs look like fun too, I’m in Essex and take a run out to Bradwell on the odd occasion but I don’t really know of any better/more worthwhile routes that are clear enough in the mornings 😂
The morning runs look like fun too, I’m in Essex and take a run out to Bradwell on the odd occasion but I don’t really know of any better/more worthwhile routes that are clear enough in the mornings 😂
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
I know of a few others that have cracked when the OEM spacers are retained. They focus all the seat pressure on a very localised area and the metal fatigues over time.
I lived in Steeple for 10 years so know the Bradwell and Dengie roads well, it’s a great run out that way. There are usually only a few of us, as we like to keep to a small group and drive respectfully. Always a great morning out with friends, enjoying the roads, stopping for the odd photo and usually end up at a coffee/cake stop at the end. 🙂
Robbie Corbett
ClioSport Club Member
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Ha, is this one better Rob? 😅
Robbie Corbett
ClioSport Club Member
haha - yes thank you.
Your seats are so shiny I initially thought you had two boxes. Thoughts on the under seat sub? Is one enough or are you tempted to add one under the passenger side too?
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
One of these is more than enough for me mate.
I had my time as an 18 year old with a pair of Eclipse 12s in the boot and more watts of audio than Wembley stadium. Lol. One of these at 150w RMS is more than enough to cope with anything most folk want to listen to and at volumes that are more than enough for me.
They’re inexpensive and so easy to fit, I’d add another if I ever got tired of just the one, but I don’t think that will be anytime soon.
MrBlonde
ClioSport Club Member
I had a listen on friday & f**k me what a waste of time frayz has done with putting in all that sound deadening & s**t!....my farts sound better than that set up!
Waaa!..just messing of course it sounds awesome,not sure about the S Club 7 he had on tho🤔
Waaa!..just messing of course it sounds awesome,not sure about the S Club 7 he had on tho🤔
HaveaCuppa
ClioSport Club Member
Brilliant progress on this as always mate.
The amount of work on that sound deadening is impressive. How long do you reckon it's taken?
How does it feel on your Dawn Raids now? I hope you've managed to keep a bit of noise and French-ness for those weekend runs and yet still have it refined enough for the daily duties?
The amount of work on that sound deadening is impressive. How long do you reckon it's taken?
How does it feel on your Dawn Raids now? I hope you've managed to keep a bit of noise and French-ness for those weekend runs and yet still have it refined enough for the daily duties?
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks Sam, im not going to lie, it feels like its been a slog. A job i really wanted to do but so glad i broke it down into segments. To do properly just takes so much time and you can easily get carried away just rushing it as its pretty laborious.
The boot and back end took me a week of evenings, the doors were a morning each and the interior cabin was a solid day. So you would need a good few days spare to do it. Of course im using my car in between time, so if you were to strip the car fully and run through the job, start to finish it would be quicker. I also was upgrading audio at the same time, routing cables, speakers etc.
Sound wise inside now, its odd as its still very much a Clio, but the doors sound different when they shut, as does the boot. The sound of the central locking has a deeper tone to it and it feels generally tighter and a bit more premium. All of the Clio'ness is still there and there's no doubting what car you're still in. Blindfolded you wouldn't all of a sudden think you're in a modern car for example. But all of the hums, rattles and buzzes that stiff Clio makes is significantly reduced.
Road noise is down massively and everything going on is more muffled and less aggressive. Yet there's still all the snap, crackle and pop from the ITG Maxogen and PMS de-catted system. Its still all there, just a bit smoother if that makes sense.
I had previously been testing the ambient noise inside the car with an iPhone app, but since my last test, i have swapped over to my summer tyres which as anyone who has used R888Rs will know, they're bloody noisy. So any results i got this morning were purely for fun to see how much improvement had been made.
I was surprised with the following results, these are the average dB readings inside the car under the following conditions.
- Decibel X app
- iPhone screen mounted phone holder
- Same section of road - A127 (A130 to Wickford)
- 5th gear
- Cruise control set to 50mph
- Totally untreated car (Michelin PS3) = 82.6dB
- Rear cabin & boot floor treated (Michelin PS3)=77.3dB
- As above plus doors treated (Michelin PS3) =74.2dB
- As above plus front cabin floor treated (Toyo R888R) =72.4dB
- Total drop in ambient road noise -10.2dB!
Now i know the results are flawed, but as said before, i didn't need an iPhone app to tell me how much better it has made the car. A total drop of over 10dB and that's with noisy rubber on too, its made a noticeable difference to how nice the car is to be in day to day. However one issue is my previously vary quiet PMS shifter is now the loudest thing in the car and i will be forced to revisit shutting it up if i can.
All in its cost me about £140 for the sound deadening materials used and including the audio i have added approx. just under 20kg to the car.
Previous results and this mornings results posted below
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Actually, I've just checked regarding weights.
Deadening was 8kg Dodo Hex, 3.5kg Noico 2mm, 2kg of Super liner. So less audio, if anyone wanted to do the same without audio its approx 13.5kg to do the whole car. I had a tiny bit left over but for weight purposes is negligible.
Deadening was 8kg Dodo Hex, 3.5kg Noico 2mm, 2kg of Super liner. So less audio, if anyone wanted to do the same without audio its approx 13.5kg to do the whole car. I had a tiny bit left over but for weight purposes is negligible.
HaveaCuppa
ClioSport Club Member
That’s a decent result with 888’s on. 10db is going to be very noticeable, I’m assuming with the 888’s off you’ll be able to knock another couple of db’s off?
Good to hear that it it still feels like a Clio, just a little more grown up.
Another thing to add to the list of stuff I’ve read on your build thread and Want to add to my own
Good to hear that it it still feels like a Clio, just a little more grown up.
Another thing to add to the list of stuff I’ve read on your build thread and Want to add to my own
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
New mats and filter service on the Maxogen. Takes bloody ages to flush out all the old oil, even with the correct ITG cleaning solution, but worth it when you see the junk one of these collects in 20k of road miles. Should be good for a further 20k now.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Just for thread variation, I did the EVOMS on the R too. Much easier to service as these are Synthamax and are not oiled.
Greeny.
ClioSport Club Member
440i + 182
Dawn raid across Essex and Suffolk at first light this morning with @MrBlonde. Over 100miles covered and ended up at First Coffee in Woodbridge.
Cold, cloudy overcast day, but took some pics anyway of her.
Modern classic right here. Ha!
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Down in my neck of the woods!
MrBlonde
ClioSport Club Member
Thats where i stopped off mate after i collected the pads from you,little de tour to see what that First coffee was like.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Thanks, they’re absolutely fine. I keep them as clean as I can and occasionally add some ACF50 to help protect them. The zinc coating does very little at protecting them though, you need to add Dynax or similar to stop the hubs getting eaten. Lol
Cliocup182!
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 cup
Are these renault cup wheels or aftermarket turinis with renault centre caps? Car looks great 👍🏻
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Genuine cup wheels. 🙂
Cliocup182!
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 cup
Nice one. Do you know what are the differences between genuine Cup and aftermarket apart from ET38.5 offset and the centre cap?
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Greeny.
ClioSport Club Member
440i + 182
iirc they look different, it’s fairly obvious to tell the difference side by side, the spokes don’t look ‘right’ on the aftermarket ones imo
Cliocup182!
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 cup
Agree. Just curious exactly what makes the cup version look better than aftermarket...
HaveaCuppa
ClioSport Club Member
The centre of the wheel where the bolt holes are and centre cap fits in is far more ‘dished’ on the genuine Renault Turinis.
I’ve got aftermarket Turinis and they almost look flat compared to the genuine Renault ones. You don’t have to run spigot rings either.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Nothing much to report, still doing its thing. 😎
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
ECU cover/holder swapped out to one in fresh gloss black.
Is the old for sale? 👀 I tried to buy that one you just put on 😂
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Send me best cash priceI hadn't planned on selling but i could make an exception in your case.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Just prised up with a screwdri.... i mean pry bar
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Replaced the temporary M8 seat fasteners today with some M10s and new cup washers.
Small detail, big difference.
Small detail, big difference.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
Finally got some time to look at fitting my Corvette brake ducts today. Although these are exceptionally close to an OEM fit, they do not fit right up on a road car.
There was a lot of fitting, warming, forming, tweeking in order to get these to clear certain parts of the chassis, align with the fogs and provide tyre clearance on lock.
i used a hot air gun and a steel tube to mold recesses and clearance curves in the tubes so they didn’t foul on anything. Plastic oem trim rivets we’re used to pin them to the crash beam. Trimmed the arch liners to fit those back in too. Eventually I got a fit that I was reasonably happy with and good tyre clearance on lock.
Now i just need to sort some finishers between the fog light bumper trims and duct tubes.
There was a lot of fitting, warming, forming, tweeking in order to get these to clear certain parts of the chassis, align with the fogs and provide tyre clearance on lock.
i used a hot air gun and a steel tube to mold recesses and clearance curves in the tubes so they didn’t foul on anything. Plastic oem trim rivets we’re used to pin them to the crash beam. Trimmed the arch liners to fit those back in too. Eventually I got a fit that I was reasonably happy with and good tyre clearance on lock.
Now i just need to sort some finishers between the fog light bumper trims and duct tubes.
frayz
ClioSport Club Member
So, delighted with the fit/function of the Corvette ducts, I needed to address the finishing on the front of the car. So I contacted @04-182 about 3D printing me some finishers that fit into the OEM fog surrounds that also locate into the GM pieces.
A little back and forth with measurements and test pieces and I think we have something thats as close to OEM as I’m likely to get. Function wise they would in theory get more air by having some protruding scoops on the front of the ducts but I think so far, all I’ve seen look a bit naff.
Ive also shared some other ideas with Simon (04-182) so hopefully some nice improvements coming.
Dead happy with the fit of these though, theyre bang on what I was hoping to achieve. Thanks Simon. 😎👌🏼
A little back and forth with measurements and test pieces and I think we have something thats as close to OEM as I’m likely to get. Function wise they would in theory get more air by having some protruding scoops on the front of the ducts but I think so far, all I’ve seen look a bit naff.
Ive also shared some other ideas with Simon (04-182) so hopefully some nice improvements coming.
Dead happy with the fit of these though, theyre bang on what I was hoping to achieve. Thanks Simon. 😎👌🏼