got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

[mx1_champ]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

You know 16psi IS 1.1bar right...

yeh haha realised after . 16 psi standard and mine made 18psi but not sure if gate was tight enough and could possibly of gone for more .
there only a very small turbo though .

 

[Scrooge]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

right my car is defiantely going in for a remap in january (someone is paying for me which is a bonus) i would obviously rather more bhp that 109,who wouldnt, so a new intercooler is ont he cards what is most suitable? e.g easiest to fit and providing most power and less problems? also im guessing a panel filter will benefit me more,which one is most reccomended?

 

[daydotz]

im waiting an hopeing for a switchable map for my dci 86 id be happy with a safe map thats not going to break things

 

[edde]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

LOL as title ive got a 1.9 DCi laguna intercooler for the dci god knows if it will even fit without serious modification lol

so whats next, assuming injectors, possibly uprated clutch, and a map.

its a dci65, how much boost does the standard turbo run, what can it take, what are the injectors rated to? what about 80 and 100 injectors? or 1.9dci ones? do they fit?

With ig enough injectors and fuel pump as thats going to be limited to about 150ish hp then you have engine internals limits so thats a lot of power 170 should be easy enough 250 possible with work then 300 maybe but thats big money and the torque would be something else and be a bit top endy

lol i aint seen no modded dci's

show me more modded diesels

what sort of power are these clios running?

Top ones about 140hp with basically an big turbo and intercooler and exhaust /ik work and remap but its run out of fuel as its got other fuel pressure pypass systems

They will only run like 0.5bar or something small like that. I would of thought adding a huge FMIC will just add lag, so you would need to turn it up anyway to compensate for that. Happened on the punto anyway, fook knows about the D

1.1 on the 65 and 1.2 on the 80 ish. a big ic won't amke a huge impact though

i've read somwhere they run in the region of 15ish psi, which can be easily upped with a map. provided it's in good working order and kept within limits it could run huge power. gearbox will take the power it'll just spin the wheels lol. just dont get track tires.

it can be upped wheather its will give any more potentila power is questionable depends on other bits but stock boost is realy about the best for a stock car

FWIW my DCI80 with a Ktec remap runs ~1.2bar.

thats stock realy

Yep injectors are the limiting factor.

That's where the injectors don't go further, and I don't think anyone had put bigger ones in so far.

injector juts can have more pressure behind them so realy the pumps the issue but bigger or more hole injectors means more fuel nence more potential power

For arguements sake, a dci 80 with next biggest available injectors, panel filter, Intercooler and decent turbo-back exhaust + remap to suit. Possible for around 200bhp and about 250ft/lbs?

This could get interesting. 25-30mpg track-tor ****... with 0-60 of about 6-7 seconds lol.

Opinions?

you can get 30mpg from a stock 65 on track

80 injectors are the biggest direct fit

with big injectotors and stock turbo etc you'r looking about 140hp and 210 torque+ big turbo and 200hp would get about 310lb torque

My question was aimed more to the likes of Boosh, if 130ish is available on standard injectors...

Putting next avail size up would be messing about more, that was the idea of my post, talking it out. I've little experience with injectors (flow rates, sizes etc) which is why i ask.

Anyone else think to my previous post?

its not just pure hp size its flow design pressure etc which make the diffference you cna get one set of injectors to make 200hp and have a smoky enhaust and another make 210hp and no smoke with nothing more than injectors chnage

It would be nice to see it done, but you'd probably need an aftermarket ECU along with bespoke tuning (it's never been done before) making it a bit of a pointless exercise. 130hp in a dci would certainly move, but I'd question the reliability.

stock ecyu would be fine no other choice realy

gearbox and clutch are the big issues

Has anyone ever found a company that sells bigger injectors yet?

Yep but £££££££££££

they run 1.1 bar standard . turbos can make 16psi but dunno howlong it will last .

they won't last long at higher boost plus more boost doesn't mean more power always

what about trying the injectors from a bigger engined renault? laguna diesel or somthing?

Nope hole sizes are different plus systems of operations etc

im waiting an hopeing for a switchable map for my dci 86 id be happy with a safe map thats not going to break things

thats called standard

 

[steviet]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

Just a suggestion (a very pikey one at that!!) But if fuelling is an issue, why not modify the inlet manifold/ injector rail to take 2 injectors per cylinder, using smaller injectors each running at lower % capacity, to wire them in, disconnect the injector wiring, and run the wiring from the single feed from the ecu for one injector (cylinder) to both the injectors????
In effect, you should have 2 injectors firing on the same cylinder when the ecu thinks there is only one firing, therefore sticking more fuel in at the correct time................... Or am i being a complete 'tard and missing something glaringly obvious!!!!

 

[Alex_X93]

To increase ic capacity is not the only concern when choosing a replacement ideally the boost route must be as short a route as possible with the least amount of 90 degree bends (flow restristrictions) situated in a cold spot. The steady flow of a gas has to be worked out using an mathematical equation that directly relates to to volume of the gas (boost pressure) and diameter of the pipe work so that turbulant flow is not present. Basically it dosent matter how big you ic is if you have to many 90 degree bends and or the route is not as short as possible in a cold spot it equalls LAG!

 

[vincent]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

is your diesel remapped?

FMIC FTW:

That's mine now:approve:, it lives on my dci65

 

[RSTuning]

You can make plenty of torque and power on the DCI, the stock injectors will supply enough fuel to out do the turbo, with a hybrid unit i think 150 maybe possible from the 80 at a push.

 

[vincent]

^^garrett VNT-15 is the turbo for the job, variable geometry for a nice and stable build up of power

 

[RSTuning]

VNT15 would certainly be sufficient

 

[Macester]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

what differences are there between the dci100 and 65/80 blocks? are the parts not interchangeable? starting with a 100 and upgrading bits would produce some awesome power, just need a decent box and clutch.

 

[edde]

Re: got a f**k off front mount for the dci whats next?!!

Just a suggestion (a very pikey one at that!!) But if fuelling is an issue, why not modify the inlet manifold/ injector rail to take 2 injectors per cylinder, using smaller injectors each running at lower % capacity, to wire them in, disconnect the injector wiring, and run the wiring from the single feed from the ecu for one injector (cylinder) to both the injectors????
In effect, you should have 2 injectors firing on the same cylinder when the ecu thinks there is only one firing, therefore sticking more fuel in at the correct time................... Or am i being a complete 'tard and missing something glaringly obvious!!!!

Injectors feed the cylinder directly thats how diesels work so its not easy to make due injectors

You can make plenty of torque and power on the DCI, the stock injectors will supply enough fuel to out do the turbo, with a hybrid unit i think 150 maybe possible from the 80 at a push.

The owner in portugal pushed the stock injectors and pump to the limit and got sttuck when the pump couldn't push any more fuel at 3k and 2000bar ish thats 137hp with 1.6 bar on a bigger turbo

what differences are there between the dci100 and 65/80 blocks? are the parts not interchangeable? starting with a 100 and upgrading bits would produce some awesome power, just need a decent box and clutch.

65 and 80 are the same
100 has slightly different bits pistons etc forget using different block and pistons though use a different engine the 2.0 vag 16V etc or similar would be better imo for hp on the cheap

 

[Alex_X93]

Personally id fit my ic behind the grill in front of top of rad for shortest route possible. Using both hard pipe verticle exit ic on throttle end with horizontal exiting ic on to the turbo.