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House Rewire



  1.2 - All the power!
I'm getting the house we've just moved into rewired in Jan/Feb and aside from the changing of cables, extra plug sockets and light switches etc what should I be looking at for future proofing the house?
Is it worth getting ethernet cables run to every bedroom for wired internet access?

Whilst I'm having the work done, spending the money and making the mess I want to make sure I'm as future proof as possible so I don't have to worry about doing anything again.
 

Davyy

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 172
Unless your house is huge are ethernet cables necessary? Surely in the future absolutely everything will be wireless
 
  Abarth 124 Spider
New consumer unit, power in garage if you have one, power front & back of house (lawn mowers, pressure washer etc)
 
  1.2 - All the power!
Unless your house is huge are ethernet cables necessary? Surely in the future absolutely everything will be wireless
It's not super huge (4 bed detached), just thinking that it gives a better connection for my son on his xbox in his room and my wife for her laptop in the room shes using as her office for not much extra cost and hassle whilst we're doing the whole rewire.
 
  MR2 Mk3 / Giulietta
Cat6/or 5e, if you can route it easily, is nice to have. You can use pairs of Cat6 to form HDMI for example, its also great for taking the load of your wireless if you can have devices hard-wired for streaming etc.

That being said you can use Powerline for this if you really wanted to.
 

adamlstr

ClioSport Club Member
Ethernet everywhere, did the same to my house during its renovation last year. The less reliance on wifi and powerline, the better.

You could always run extra ethernet to places like your front door, external corners of the property, for security and cctv. And if you ever want to do smart-home stuff, run a load more ethernet than you need and leave it dormant.

I also have my main BT socket and virgin media coax all terminating in the same place as the cat6.
 
  Transit Connect.
I wouldn't bother with any Ethernet cat what ever cables there is zero point. Just get plenty of sockets put in, put more than you think you need.
 
  Transit Connect.
Ethernet everywhere, did the same to my house during its renovation last year. The less reliance on wifi and powerline, the better.

You could always run extra ethernet to places like your front door, external corners of the property, for security and cctv. And if you ever want to do smart-home stuff, run a load more ethernet than you need and leave it dormant.

I also have my main BT socket and virgin media coax all terminating in the same place as the cat6.
Do you use it?
 

Martin.

ClioSport Club Member
Ethernet for sure. I hate to rely on wireless.

Also consider virgin cables, or BT cables from the junction box at the front of your house to where the TV etc might be. I put in virgin cables, ethernet cables and BT cables through all my walls in the lounge with nice sockets ready to plug anything from possible providers.
 

R3k1355

ClioSport Club Member
It's faster than wifi, more reliable than wifi, the latency is lower so it's better for gaming. POE mean you can run it for security cameras too.

Cat 7 cable is available now, it supports pretty mental speeds, plenty to ensure future-proofing.
 
  1.2 - All the power!
New consumer unit, power in garage if you have one, power front & back of house (lawn mowers, pressure washer etc)
Ethernet everywhere, did the same to my house during its renovation last year. The less reliance on wifi and powerline, the better.

You could always run extra ethernet to places like your front door, external corners of the property, for security and cctv. And if you ever want to do smart-home stuff, run a load more ethernet than you need and leave it dormant.

I also have my main BT socket and virgin media coax all terminating in the same place as the cat6.
That's what I was thinking, are you using a switch? If so where have you located it? Considering the loft if I go for one.

Did you have to get BT out to move your main BT socket?
 

adamlstr

ClioSport Club Member
It's faster than wifi, more reliable than wifi, the latency is lower so it's better for gaming. POE mean you can run it for security cameras too.

Cat 7 cable is available now, it supports pretty mental speeds, plenty to ensure future-proofing.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Also, the less I have to hear the wife complain about the wifi being broken, the better.
 

adamlstr

ClioSport Club Member
That's what I was thinking, are you using a switch? If so where have you located it? Considering the loft if I go for one.

Did you have to get BT out to move your main BT socket?
Switch/cab is in the loft, but beware of temperatures in summer. You will need to think about getting some air circulation up there.

My switch is a passively cooled Juniper one, so there's no noise.

Moving a BT socket is a piece of piss, just be wary they carry a couple of volts.
 

Old Tarby!

ClioSport Moderator
Hardwired is always going to be better than any wireless equivalent....and that's coming from someone who specialises in radio and wireless stuff.

Wireless stuff is just convenient
 
  1.2 - All the power!
Switch/cab is in the loft, but beware of temperatures in summer. You will need to think about getting some air circulation up there.

My switch is a passively cooled Juniper one, so there's no noise.

Moving a BT socket is a piece of piss, just be wary they carry a couple of volts.
It was either the loft or under stairs cupboard but assumed the cupboard would get too hot.
Your BT socket is in the loft with your switch then?
 
  1.2 - All the power!
Yeah, not that it's in use right now.

As soon as BT hurry up and FTTC my nearest cab, I'll use it again.
And then will you have your Sky hub on some sort of smart plug so if it needs resetting you can do it without having to go up into the loft? This is basically my plan. It started out as just using the 4 ethernet ports on the back of my Sky hub and has now escalated.
 

Rojer

ClioSport Club Member
  Civic
@adamlstr Do you watch LTT on YT? He released a video yesterday which i found really interesting using fiber cables etc.
 

cs_rich

ClioSport Club Member
  Not a clio
I'd definitely go for ethernet. I've never seen wireless or powerline get close to ethernet for sustained transfers (at least with the kit I've tried).

We ran ethernet outside our house to wire everything up. It's an old house with lots of really solid stone walls internally and even with three decent access points hardwired into the ethernet there are some slow spots.

Also there are oddities like our LG TV is notionally 802.11n but the wireless adaptor in it is to a 100meg network controller so it can't stream properly on wireless. Plug in the cable and it's fine.
 
If doing a rewire it’d make sense to run some Ethernet whilst you’re there.

Annoyed I didn’t get it sorted when we moved house into a new build, although ones we’re looking at now come with some already (I’d probably add a few more to the ones they give you).

Saying that running wireless in this and last house was no problem, never had an issue with reliability or latency. Yeah speed will never match a wired connection, guess how much data you’re shunting about and how often :)

I get a reliable 400Mbps (40ish MB/s transfer speeds) in the furthest room.

Power line was a lot less when trying that.

I’d also get a could of cable runs to sit in the ceilings in appropriate locations so if you wanted to stick an access point up the cabling is already there.
 
  RS175,595,205gti,172
Just remember not to run data alongside the power unless its shielded.
But as everyone else has said hardwired is always better imo.
 
(haven't read the thread so may have been mentioned) i wouldn't worry about wired internet access, wifi is good enough now to not really require it, for the average joe internet user,

cat cable is a good shout for AV though, centralise all your sky, virgin, PS3, xbox ect in one cupboard and have it sent over cat to every telly, saves on a s**t load of clutter under each tv,

or if not of interest,

assuming they will be chasing the walls in for new T+E
HDMI's buried in the walls between the tv and a side cabinet or corner of the room
 


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