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How easy is the 182 to steal?



idea though:

they could have used some of these under the wheels and pushed the car out of the tight parking space..

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used in a photostudio to spin the car round on the spot..
 
  cock mobile.
Dunno; they certainly might go to those lengths.

Some guy one here (I forget his name) was chased by three cars that tried to force him to stop; clearly they wanted to nick is shiny new 182.
 
It was the friend of the guy whos Evo that was nicked that posted on MIGWEB (www.migweb.co.uk) about a year and a half ago. Might be longer. He posted saying that an Evo had been stolen from a certain area and could people keep an eye out. He posted a pic of it so peope would know what it looked like. As you can imagine people posted asking how it was stolen and what time e.t.c so the guy posted the details just explaning how it was taken.
 
  Ford Fiesta
EVOgone said:
Do you know me...how the f**k do you know all these details as i never posted that level of detail..!
thought the idea of the trackers is so they know your cars been nicked before you do, seems silly having to phone them to get them to activate the thing!
 
Liam182 said:
thought the idea of the trackers is so they know your cars been nicked before you do, seems silly having to phone them to get them to activate the thing!

not if the alarm hasnt gone off or anything..
 
Think it depends on the company for the tracker. Some I think it will happen like that but I think a lot of them when you realise your car has been stolen you ring the tracker company then they turn a signal on and it will pin point where the car is.
 
RAC trackstar

The RAC Trackstar Plus unit is integrated with the vehicle's own immobiliser system, and features a motion sensor detector and full battery back-up. The system automatically arms when the ignition is switched off.

Trackstar is automatically triggered as soon as the vehicle is moved without the unit being disarmed first. Trackstar National Control Centre contacts the vehicle owner to advise the car has been stolen, using any one of the agreed contact numbers.

so looks like if the vehicle moves without the ignition being switche don it automatically activates

or im assuming you could phone them and report it stolen and they activate it.
 
  RenaultSport clio 172
jonnyboy said:
Sorry what I meant was having the stickers as a deterrant makes actually having an alarm a waste of time. If somone sees a clifford sticker and still breaks into your car they would have broken in anyway. Sticker is 3 quid off ebay worth every penny!

It's more than just a waste of time having stickers, it's a useful way of telling the thief exactly which alarm/model you have fitted. A professional car thief is most definitely a trim expert when it comes to alarms.

People forget that the real skill is NOT starting the car, you can hot-wire ANY car if you have enough time, it's actually silencing the alarm siren (which is normally done with expanding tyre foam) so as not to draw attention to yourself.

A persistent thief, who wanted my Lotus Carlton, made his first visit to my house to check what alarm the car had (by setting it off) and which sensors were fitted, then another to see how quickly I'd react in the event of it going off, and then when he finally attempted to steal it he was able to get into the car, silence the alarm, and have it started within 30 seconds.

I hadn't driven the Lotus for a month, not since it'd been dropped off by the RAC with a shattered clutch, so needless to say he didn't get very far and on that occasion he did absolutely no damage whatsoever.

After 3 further attempts to steal it, I sold it.

Regards
 
  RenaultSport clio 172
GuyS said:
does anyone know how much a tracker would reduce your insurance by?

Generally speaking, it doesn't. Many underwriters will only issue cover on certain vehicles under the premise one is fitted, so in that case it's mandatory, but very few, if any will give discount.

You do get discount for fitting one on a bike, which is almost pointless as it's far, far easier to remove it from a bike, and therefore less likely to deter the thief. In saying that, a 2005 R1 @ £9k is worth £18k in parts, so anything to lower the number of thefts is considered good.

Regards
 
g18llo said:
Generally speaking, it doesn't. Many underwriters will only issue cover on certain vehicles under the premise one is fitted, so in that case it's mandatory, but very few, if any will give discount.

You do get discount for fitting one on a bike, which is almost pointless as it's far, far easier to remove it from a bike, and therefore less likely to deter the thief. In saying that, a 2005 R1 @ £9k is worth £18k in parts, so anything to lower the number of thefts is considered good.

Regards

yeah, but thats only on high value cars..
like some insurance will only cover bikes with datatagging etc..
thought it would reduce normal insurance premiums on cars though, like having a cat1 alarm and an immobiliser would normally knock a few hundred off wont it?? surely the tracker knocks the insurance down as its very likely that if the car is stolen it will be recovered?
 
  RenaultSport clio 172
GuyS said:
yeah, but thats only on high value cars..
like some insurance will only cover bikes with datatagging etc..
thought it would reduce normal insurance premiums on cars though, like having a cat1 alarm and an immobiliser would normally knock a few hundred off wont it?? surely the tracker knocks the insurance down as its very likely that if the car is stolen it will be recovered?

Having a cat1 alarm/immobiliser doesn't make any difference to the cost of my car insurance whatsoever, I can't think of any occasions (or any cars) where it's dropped because I chose to have it fitted. However, that may be different if you're paying £1k plus for insurance.

Those places that advertise a discount for a cat1 alarm, or an immobiliser, are infact not offering any discount, they're simply loading the premium in the first instance. Generally speaking the underwriter will either say that a tracking/alarm is mandatory or it doesn't need anything at all.

Regards
 
  Clio 197
Someone's deffo after mine...

...I just know-it (same white chavalier driving past so many times now).

(well, either the car or bike - I'm not sure which).

If they take the car, they'll probably bring it straight back when they realise the mileage!!!

(PS Private plates are good, because they don't know the age of the car).
 
g18 - my insurance is £1745...

see where im comin from? if they give 200 quid discount say then a tracker is under 500 so hasnt cost much for it..
 
  Mondeo STTDCI
Loopy said:
Watch this space as i am in the middle of a prototype fingerprint immobilser with anti hyjack. If the print is not taken with 30 seconds of the car being started or a door being opened when the car is running it cuts out. I started designing this for my passat and it got out of control.

http://passatworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172380

A link to the original post for the passat immobiliser

Cant really say much else but there will be a discount for you guys obviously LOL

Also is this the type of thing you would buy ?

Dont fancy having one of my fingers lopped off as well TBH.
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
Ye, was gonna say that.. a finger print can be forcibly removed from you... a code cannot.
 

EVOgone

ClioSport Club Member
  Pink Cup Racer
Carlos.Leeds said:
It was the friend of the guy whos Evo that was nicked that posted on MIGWEB (www.migweb.co.uk) about a year and a half ago. Might be longer. He posted saying that an Evo had been stolen from a certain area and could people keep an eye out. He posted a pic of it so peope would know what it looked like. As you can imagine people posted asking how it was stolen and what time e.t.c so the guy posted the details just explaning how it was taken.

Would be great if you can get the thread link..please.

I was told by the police to not give out details and see if anyone posted on furums with too much detail. My car was stolen two years ago so given the many conisidences then it would be appreciated if you could post the link to the actual thread.

By the way my car had RAC trackstar &CAT 1 alarm immobiliser, which should tell you if the car has moved. Everytime it went in for servicing i had them on the phone saying is you car being stolen..as it was on the ramp being lifted!

When it got stolen there was nothing so they obviously knew what they were doing...so for me tracker are a waste of time and lots of money.
 
  Clio Sport 172
KDF said:
Ye, was gonna say that.. a finger print can be forcibly removed from you... a code cannot.

Thats why with anti hyjack it cuts out 30 seonds down the road once the car has been taken. 30 seconds is more than enough time to run and call for help. How do you think clifford anti hyjack works, that cuts out 30 seconds after the door has been open. All this offers is time to get away

And if they want a code whats to stop them kicking the living daylights out of you till you tell them. In that case you be stubborn you could get really hurt
 
  Inferno 182 w/ Recaros ;)
donnyo said:
I wish that they gave the Clio deadlocking!

Donny

i had that on my astra (last car) but i left it on the street and some c***s still broke in, with nothing on view. seems like the astra needed a safety feature whereby the deadlock could be disabled by sticking something down the door.

had a look around the glovebox, messed it all over the floor, but didnt take anything.

still caused crap load of damage to the door handle.

i just wish that i'd have caught them doing it. i never been involved in a fight in my life, but i would go ballistic if i caught anyone doing something like that.
 

EVOgone

ClioSport Club Member
  Pink Cup Racer
Carlos.Leeds said:
Here you go mate.

The pictures that were originally there aren't there. Probably because the thread is so old they the links will be broke or something. But it showed a black evo parked up ouutside a house in a narrow street.

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=107477&highlight=Stolen+Evo

Thanks thats the one, i know the person who posted it hes a friend of mine.

Still pisses me off how they took it...... Anyways got 20k from the insurance, so should let it go....!

Thanks Carlos Leeds.
 
  Inferno 182 w/ Recaros ;)
GuyS said:
if it s astandard fit tracker, a theif would know where it is, rip it out and throw it out the window..

now if you put a tracker n a clio.. surely theres a 'common place' to fit it so they could check that place, rip it out and throw it out the window..

if you had a tracker would you actually put 'tracker' stickers on the window?
in one way it may deter people from attempting to steal it..
but then in the other way it would tell the theif.. ''ive got a tracker, so check the usual places and rip it out before you go anywhere'' and if the cars recovered anyway,, would you really want it after some cheesehammer chav scrote had been ragging it around

the whole point of a tracker is that if it is stolen it cant be located and found, its supposed to be invisible and untraceable, so why the f**k you want a sticker advertising it i would never work out.
 
Don't want to dig up an old bad memory EVO but don't suppose you have the pictures from that thread. Just to give people an idea of how hard it must have been to take it.

:)
 


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