How many 172/182 owners engine mounts are banging?

[Frasers Cup]

I've had the gearbox mount replaced and the also had the uprated ktec mount fitted which worked for a while but the engine is banging under acceleration again and worse in the wet... The top mount has also been readjusted numerous times....

How many other owners have this problem??

Is it possible to get an uprated top mount for the engine??

Cheers

Fraser

 

[Alan]

Used to get it on my old 182 under hard acceleration matey but i learned to live with it...driving normally it was fine..

 

[Frasers Cup]

Really gets on my t*ts....

You would think that they could design some decent engine mounts... Seems that the std ones cant handle the torque of the engine...

How different are they to the std clio range engine mounts?? Knowing renault they are exactly the same!

 

[brisa4984]

no point in fitting 1 uprated mount with ktec apparently as it transfers the forces to the other mounts wearing them out quicker. or so im told.

 

[john lloyd]

dont gdi do some solid top mounts?

if you uprate them all at once that should make life a bit easier, as someone said changing one to an updarted could put extra stress on the other older std ones im just guessing though. i would expect more engine vibration with uprated mounts though, fitted group n mounts on a track car 205 and whole shell vibrated.

 

[stinka]

i get this and its doing my f'in nut in

 

[Lagerlout]

yOU DONE THE ONE UNDER THE BATTERY?

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=232800

 

[Frasers Cup]

yOU DONE THE ONE UNDER THE BATTERY?

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=232800

Yup done by the renault stealers.... Think I might just weld the engine to the mounts That would solve the movement problem..

 

[Henry]

problem with fitting solid mounts is that the vibration would be completely unbearable. i had GrpN mounts in a 205 too and reckon they were one of the most effective fast road/track mods i made - much sweeter gearshift and it was keener on turn in too. downside was the vibration but it's posible to get used to it.

wasn't someone on here looking into coming up with a set for the Clio a little while ago? they were expensive as i recall

 

[Frasers Cup]

probably the only thing that puts a dampener on the ownership experience...

That and shocking reliability!!

 

[Fletcher]

^^^^what about the rattles lol.

 

[Frasers Cup]

Them too..

 

[deanf06]

how bad is the rattles on the ktec uprated mounts on a 172?

 

[kully]

my gearbox mount worked loose last yr . got fixed and sounds much better .

 

[Tom H]

My drivers side one had burst only noticed when i did the camebelt as you have to take it out to see.. had perished and leaked guy at renault said common problem :S new one sat about a inch taller out of the car

 

[Bluebeard]

My mechanic dude did a modification of packing out the gearbox mount with numerous thick washers, and so far after two VERY hard track days, its not knocked once.

 

[stinka]

My mechanic dude did a modification of packing out the gearbox mount with numerous thick washers, and so far after two VERY hard track days, its not knocked once.

any pics or a discription would be cool mate

 

[Bluebeard]

hahaha, sorry dude, i'm about as technical as a lump of coal. I'm just telling you what he told me. And TBH, i'm not happy with you because you have unearthed as the useless tool that i am

sorry

 

[edde]

My mechanic dude did a modification of packing out the gearbox mount with numerous thick washers, and so far after two VERY hard track days, its not knocked once.

any pics or a discription would be cool mate

Juts have alook at the mount and you'll understand what they did.

 

[Cue]

i get a bad knocking under hard acceleration and braking, not sure if it's from the gearbox or engine though...

 

[Frasers Cup]

Even on the trophy??

You would think that they would uprate them as the car evolves....

Typical renault...

 

[edde]

Even on the trophy??

You would think that they would uprate them as the car evolves....

Typical renault...

Same mount on the trophys.

WHy uprate them as it causes more trouble/

 

[Frasers Cup]

Well you would think that if so many of the cars were having issues with the mounts they might try to beef them up or improve them...

 

[edde]

Well you would think that if so many of the cars were having issues with the mounts they might try to beef them up or improve them...

It will only damage other more expensive parts.

 

[Frasers Cup]

well other manufacturers dont seem to have these issues?

 

[edde]

well other manufacturers dont seem to have these issues?

They don't use the same mounts.

 

[Frasers Cup]

so there must be an issue with the ones renault use then??

 

[Neil G]

Good pld Renault using sub-standard mounts

Mine knocks now and again and I've just learnt to live with it now...so long as the engine isn't going to fall out I'm okay with it.

 

[Henry]

you'd have to assume (?!) that the Renault engineers did experiment with the affects of stiffer mounts but it'd still be interesting to see if they help without compromising comfort/reliability too much.

i'd have a go at uprated mounts if they were available cheaply enough - you probably wouldn't need to do all of them.

 

[fmp_]

I ran GrpN mounts on my saxo, and like said, one of the best upgrades.

I seem to remember Yozzasport saying they were devoloping some, a fair while ago, as we didnt bother going further with it, as there was no point two companies having the same product available.

Its a shame the cup racers use totally different mounts.

And those that are saying uprated mounts will put stress on other components, what might these be.......????

 

[Cue]

the knocking doesn't bother me, sounds lime somethings going to come through the car when it happens but i only get it on track.

 

[Frasers Cup]

I wouldnt mind a little extra vibration for no engine movement.... How do ferrari etc cope when their cars develop 3+x the power??

 

[Christophe]

i've had one of my top mouts replaced as part of it snapped !! lol didnt know until they did my cambelt change.

 

[edde]

so there must be an issue with the ones renault use then??

Nope they just wear its just like Oil IMO wear does depend on driving style etc anyway. If they make them stiffer with the current desing would have cost a fortune.

Good pld Renault using sub-standard mounts

Define substandard?

 

[deanf06]

Well you would think that if so many of the cars were having issues with the mounts they might try to beef them up or improve them...

It will only damage other more expensive parts.

What more expensive parts?

 

[Henry]

Nope they just wear its just like Oil IMO wear does depend on driving style etc anyway. If they make them stiffer with the current desing would have cost a fortune.

Good pld Renault using sub-standard mounts

Define substandard?

not sure it would have cost Renault any more to use stiffer mounts - all they need have done is increase the shore hardness of the rubber in them.

the hardness they'll have gone with will be a compromise between the longevity of the mounts and comfort.
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i don't reckon they're up to much as standard mounts either - the RS models are (to all intents and purposes) sports cars and will likely be driven enthusiastically; it's like the gearbox in my mind - that's not up to the job either.

 

[ben_p]

Just to note that

If you loosed the 4 16mm bolts on the left hand top mount, put a large bar behind the mount and pull the whole mount and engine forward as far as you can get it (engine is pulled towards the front bumper)

then whilst holding it forward tighten the 4 16mm bolts back up nice and tight,

try this as it will only take 2 mins and could solve half the problems for you guys

 

[edde]

What more expensive parts?

Gearbox holes subframe body shell brackets interier mountings etc.

not sure it would have cost Renault any more to use stiffer mounts - all they need have done is increase the shore hardness of the rubber in them.

i don't reckon they're up to much as standard mounts either - the RS models are (to all intents and purposes) sports cars and will likely be driven enthusiastically; it's like the gearbox in my mind - that's not up to the job either.

It would have as stiffer mount would have meant an all new design as stock mount would have to be thicker and body shel mounts beefed up so extra brackets welded up etc.

Gearbox is Ok its not gear as its on the limit just people think things should last forever with abuse and thats not the case

 

[Tom]

Just to note that

If you loosed the 4 16mm bolts on the left hand top mount, put a large bar behind the mount and pull the whole mount and engine forward as far as you can get it (engine is pulled towards the front bumper)

then whilst holding it forward tighten the 4 16mm bolts back up nice and tight,

try this as it will only take 2 mins and could solve half the problems for you guys

READ THIS AND LEARN.​

 

[Steve]

Had my upper one near cambelt changed this week, was f@@ked.