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***How much is it worth?***



Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Morning. Christ its been a few years since I was on here, hope all is well..

Anyway, my Flame Red, FF Mark II 172 is gathering a hell of a lot of dust, so needs shifting. Plus, I'd moved down here to London a while back and who needs a car down here?! It's been off the road for a couple of years (declared SORN, locked up in a garage), so will need a new battery and a bit of tlc, but, main things;

52k
FSH
2 previous owners
Belts done at 30k I think, a few years ago, but probably need doing again in the next 12-18 months.
I *think* the brakes & tyres are all decent.
Standard all-round.

There is a cup spoiler and a spare clutch in the boot though (if anyone wants?)

Manifold needs replacing as its blowing a little.
Bodywork is probably average for a car this age, so few scratches here and there, although the interior is pretty decent.
Air con will def need a good going over too!

What do you lot reckon its worth?
MagpieV6
 
  F56 MINI Cooper S
On the hunt for one of these, might be a bit far, but any photos?

Photos as requested (now has janspeed exhaust)

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As said by kayzee, belts are not due until November 2015. They were done in Nov 2010 on 21k, so 36k ago. Car is absolutely mint, recently had lower ball joint and track rod end replaced by 519, and fully checked over. Passed MOT in March, not due until end of March 2015.
 
  F56 MINI Cooper S
I am going by prices on AT.

There is a BG on 69k going for £3.7k
An RB Cup on 98k going for £3.7k
An Arctic on 72k going for £3,952.
A Titanium on 64k going for £3,985
and a Cup on 80k going for £3.5k

I haven't seen any of the above but I would be surprised if any were in better condition.
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
It would be worth 3750/3800 if it was the following-

A dealer sale,Full dealer History, Cambelt less than 2.5 years ago & done by a Renault dealer or well known specialist, Excellent branded tyres. No marks.

The fact the belts are semi due, the fact its a private sale its nearer 3k, probs 3250 -3400 tops.
Also the bit with the belts, you haven't said whether the aux belt kit was changed & who changed the belts- if it was an independent garage then all it does is knock the price more.

the reason the above cars are still on AT is because they haven't sold because they are way overpriced. - & you cant compare dealer prices V private sale prices. ( if you were )


GLWTS
 
  F56 MINI Cooper S
It would be worth 3750/3800 if it was the following-

A dealer sale,Full dealer History, Cambelt less than 2.5 years ago & done by a Renault dealer or well known specialist, Excellent branded tyres. No marks.

The fact the belts are semi due, the fact its a private sale its nearer 3k, probs 3250 -3400 tops.
Also the bit with the belts, you haven't said whether the aux belt kit was changed & who changed the belts- if it was an independent garage then all it does is knock the price more.

the reason the above cars are still on AT is because they haven't sold because they are way overpriced. - & you cant compare dealer prices V private sale prices. ( if you were )


GLWTS

Was done at Renault in Tamworth
 
  Fiesta ST-2
I think a lot of those prices are wishful thinking? And not private sales? I bought an Arctic on 39k 5 years ago for £4400.
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
Best of luck with the sale Jordi.

If you actually want to sell it I would list it on here for £3750 & go from there. It looks a nice car.
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
Remember what its listed for & what it actually sells for are 2 different things.....

Steve
 

mikeh

ClioSport Club Member
  182 Trophy
Sorry, how does the belt being done by non-renault/specialist reduce the value?
 

CrippsCorner

ClioSport Club Member
  Astra VXR
I think it does reduce the value slightly, but only to people on here. Auto Trader crew aren't going to care. Although you could argue if the car's been running fine since it had been done from a back street garage, they have obviously done it alright.
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
It does effect price, more so in enthusiasts eyes than it does joe public-

Local garages will use Non OEM parts, & more often than not change the cambelt & the aux belt only. There will be no inspection of the water pump or dephaser pulley & they probably wont use the correct tools.

Just because its running, doesn't mean to say its running well.

I would say the price difference is less pronounced the further you get down the years its been done, so if its been done 3 years ago it wont matter so much, however if its just been done by bodgit & scarper with a yin yan belt & no aux kit that does effect what its worth V if its been done by say birchdown with all the belts done properly inc aux belt kit.

You get what you pay for......
 

mikeh

ClioSport Club Member
  182 Trophy
I did the belts myself with genuine belts and dephaser. No I didn't use the correct tool, but yes it times up perfectly afterwards ;)

Its come up on conversation with four different Indy mechanics now and they all asked if it was a pain, whether I used genuine stuff and triple checked timing.

Not all of them are bad - don't forget its not just the Clio that has these issues.
 
  Fiesta ST-2
When I had my second cambelt change a few years into my ownership (due to the dephaser pulley) I found out the previous Renault specialist had timed it up pretty bad. Drove so much better after the second belt change. If I was in the market for a Renaultsport clio in the future, I would only get one that had been serviced somewhere reputable.
 

CrippsCorner

ClioSport Club Member
  Astra VXR
It does effect price, more so in enthusiasts eyes than it does joe public-

Local garages will use Non OEM parts, & more often than not change the cambelt & the aux belt only. There will be no inspection of the water pump or dephaser pulley & they probably wont use the correct tools.

Just because its running, doesn't mean to say its running well.

I would say the price difference is less pronounced the further you get down the years its been done, so if its been done 3 years ago it wont matter so much, however if its just been done by bodgit & scarper with a yin yan belt & no aux kit that does effect what its worth V if its been done by say birchdown with all the belts done properly inc aux belt kit.

You get what you pay for......

Most people don't care and certainly don't look into whether it was OEM or not.

Most people haven't even heard of an aux belt, water pump or dephaser.

To be honest most people won't even be able to tell if a car's not running 100% as it should be, that goes for sellers and buyers! Before I came on here I'd owned 8 cars and hadn't a clue about any of that stuff! I sure have learnt a lot, but the general public never do... to them a car's a car, not a hobby.

Still reckon asking a premium for all the above effects probably 10% of the market.
 
  Fiesta ST-2
Depends on your luck tbh, when I tried to sell my car a few years back each person knew it had a
dephaser rattle. The guy who bought my car the other week didn't even have the bonnet open with the engine running or check half the service history.
 

CrippsCorner

ClioSport Club Member
  Astra VXR
I've genuinely never had a buyer open a bonnet of a car I'm selling lol. Usually just a 5 minute test drive, "Yeah that'll do mate" job done.
 
  Fiesta ST-2
Well I wish he'd had come to buy the car years ago, would have saved me a lot of money not having to keep it, and then pay for all the belts and dephaser to be done lol.
 
How much do you think my car is worth - if i decide to put her up for sale again?

RS Clio 172
2004 (04)
Iceberg sliver
60K
Full years MOT (only advisory is a 'slightly discolored indicator bulb' - the rest have been fixed / resolved)
Tax'd until end of June.
Part Service history.

- Cambelt kit changed in 2012 by a reputable car dealer & a full service (oils, filters and plugs).

Work done in the year i have had her;

- Auxbelt kit changed in (Feb 14).
- Replaced both front springs and a leaking rear shock.
- New lambda sensor.
- Both inner tie rods (gen Renault) and both TRE's (Lemforder) replaced and tracking done after.
- New handbrake cables (pair).
- New Genuine rear brake discs and Brembo pads.
- Replaced both rear calipers.
- Replaced both exhaust mounts.
- Body work is very good (two small scrapes - one on the rear bumper, one of the front bumper; both from wa*kers in carparks - both have polished out with slight marks left behind) and just the usual stone chips (nothing major).
- Interior is immaculate and new climate control display installed.
- Steering wheel is in very good condition.
- Recently serviced (Feb 2014) using gen. Renault parts. (Fuchs super syn oil, Gen oil filter, pollen filter and front brake refresh and bleeding).

and other parts replaced to freshen her up.

- Extremely good condition Trophy Turinis (one has very minimal curbing) with Toyo tr1's with 4mm of tread on.
- Ktec SS exhaust.

Extra bits:

It will come with the original alloys (very good condition, with goodyears on - two will need replacing).
Arch liner clips (spares).
Both old rear calipers (one is perfect, one could be refurbed).
All the left over service bits;
- Fuchs super syn oil
- Superblue brake fluid
 
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  clio 172 cup
How much would I get for the parts if a broke a trophy seats suspension alloys spoiler ect all in good condition all bodywork is also in good condition

Thanks
 

VIICarCare

ClioSport Club Member
  255, 230, 172, R26
Thoughts on this then lads?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-c...7#ht_63wt_958&clk_rvr_id=628522147357&afsrc=1

Been speaking to the guy via txt.

6th owner
2 belt changes, last 05/13 with receipt (No idea on dephaser or aux belt though)
says its scratch/dentless outside & interior is good condition
1 key
part service history (serviced by himself)

That's pretty much all the info I have. I have an idea if it's good condition but wanted your thoughts!
 
  BG 182
Still on the hunt for my 1st 182, Ideally wanting a black/blue one, but this one is quite local to me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...el/clio/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l?logcode=p

when asking about cams/pulleys, aux belt and waterpump, he replied:

3 months ago,the clio is in good condition, has no technical damages at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects.It looks and runs 100%, it has full service history, mot and tax

I didn't even discuss price yet, but he said:

£2000 is my last offer price reduced Spring DISCOUNT, contact me if you are interested

I noticed on one image there is bodywork damage on the rear quarter passenger side

5jOEl5J.jpg



Think this an approach with caution, its 45 minutes drive from me.
 

lemonnobby

ClioSport Club Member
How much do you think my car is worth - if i decide to put her up for sale again?

RS Clio 172
2004 (04)
Iceberg sliver
60K
Full years MOT (only advisory is a 'slightly discolored indicator bulb' - the rest have been fixed / resolved)
Tax'd until end of June.
Part Service history.

- Cambelt kit changed in 2012 by a reputable car dealer & a full service (oils, filters and plugs).

Work done in the year i have had her;

- Auxbelt kit changed in (Feb 14).
- Replaced both front springs and a leaking rear shock.
- New lambda sensor.
- Both inner tie rods (gen Renault) and both TRE's (Lemforder) replaced and tracking done after.
- New handbrake cables (pair).
- New Genuine rear brake discs and Brembo pads.
- Replaced both rear calipers.
- Replaced both exhaust mounts.
- Body work is very good (two small scrapes - one on the rear bumper, one of the front bumper; both from wa*kers in carparks - both have polished out with slight marks left behind) and just the usual stone chips (nothing major).
- Interior is immaculate and new climate control display installed.
- Steering wheel is in very good condition.
- Recently serviced (Feb 2014) using gen. Renault parts. (Fuchs super syn oil, Gen oil filter, pollen filter and front brake refresh and bleeding).

and other parts replaced to freshen her up.

- Extremely good condition Trophy Turinis (one has very minimal curbing) with Toyo tr1's with 4mm of tread on.
- Ktec SS exhaust.

Extra bits:

It will come with the original alloys (very good condition, with goodyears on - two will need replacing).
Arch liner clips (spares).
Both old rear calipers (one is perfect, one could be refurbed).
All the left over service bits;
- Fuchs super syn oil
- Superblue brake fluid

You looking at 2500 as the part history let you down.

Thoughts on this then lads?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-c...7#ht_63wt_958&clk_rvr_id=628522147357&afsrc=1

Been speaking to the guy via txt.

6th owner
2 belt changes, last 05/13 with receipt (No idea on dephaser or aux belt though)
says its scratch/dentless outside & interior is good condition
1 key
part service history (serviced by himself)

That's pretty much all the info I have. I have an idea if it's good condition but wanted your thoughts!

I personally think that's a 1300 quid car. I think it will need a dephaser and a key plus lots of other bits.

Still on the hunt for my 1st 182, Ideally wanting a black/blue one, but this one is quite local to me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...el/clio/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l?logcode=p

when asking about cams/pulleys, aux belt and waterpump, he replied:



I didn't even discuss price yet, but he said:



I noticed on one image there is bodywork damage on the rear quarter passenger side

5jOEl5J.jpg



Think this an approach with caution, its 45 minutes drive from me.

That's a dealer full of cap. And it will need a belt on age I bet.
 

CrippsCorner

ClioSport Club Member
  Astra VXR
Yeah I would have walked away at the original price but using the special spring DISCOUNT :p it could still work out a decent deal...
 

Chi

  Z4, VW172, R26
Thoughts on this then lads?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-c...7#ht_63wt_958&clk_rvr_id=628522147357&afsrc=1

Been speaking to the guy via txt.

6th owner
2 belt changes, last 05/13 with receipt (No idea on dephaser or aux belt though)
says its scratch/dentless outside & interior is good condition
1 key
part service history (serviced by himself)

That's pretty much all the info I have. I have an idea if it's good condition but wanted your thoughts!

Thats all the money at the starting price. . if I was buying id want it for <1300 as above probably try for less but its not my fave colour so its easier to walk away :)
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
Still on the hunt for my 1st 182, Ideally wanting a black/blue one, but this one is quite local to me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...el/clio/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l?logcode=p

when asking about cams/pulleys, aux belt and waterpump, he replied:



I didn't even discuss price yet, but he said:



I noticed on one image there is bodywork damage on the rear quarter passenger side

5jOEl5J.jpg



Think this an approach with caution, its 45 minutes drive from me.


You've highlighted a bit in red, also theres a whopping great big dent above it.
 
  Monaco - 172
Still on the hunt for my 1st 182, Ideally wanting a black/blue one, but this one is quite local to me.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...el/clio/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l?logcode=p

when asking about cams/pulleys, aux belt and waterpump, he replied:



I didn't even discuss price yet, but he said:



I noticed on one image there is bodywork damage on the rear quarter passenger side

5jOEl5J.jpg



Think this an approach with caution, its 45 minutes drive from me.

Looks like it was previously owned by someone on here? Wonder if there's any information kicking about.
 
  BG 182
You've highlighted a bit in red, also theres a whopping great big dent above it.

Yeah, didn't even notice that!

Looks like it was previously owned by someone on here? Wonder if there's any information kicking about.

If anyone could shed any light on it that would be great, the guy whos been emailing me has gone silent after emailing the photos of the damage and asking he he had any photos of the service history, receipts etc
 
  Mec 350 slk manual
Yeah, didn't even notice that!



If anyone could shed any light on it that would be great, the guy whos been emailing me has gone silent after emailing the photos of the damage and asking he he had any photos of the service history, receipts etc
I would not bother with that by the look of how much is it ?
 


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