Idle Rattle

[Stevendjk]

2004 Clio 182
The car has developed a rattle on idle, it happens when the car has reached temperature. At first I thought it was the exhaust heat shield. I discovered yesterday that if I engage the clutch the rattle disappears. Could it be the clutch release bearing? Or a worn mount?

Many thanks.

 

[Stay Puft]

I had similar, the rattle was very quiet though, but yeah new clutch fixed it.

 

[Stevendjk]

I had similar, the rattle was very quiet though, but yeah new clutch fixed it.

Thanks for your reply, it wasn't the answer I was looking to hear though 😞 is it expensive to replace a 182's clutch?

 

[Mar172]

Around £450

 

[Stevendjk]

Around £450

The car drives fine at the moment and all the gears work as they should, it's just the rattle on idle. Am I in any rush to get it replaced?

 

[Stay Puft]

I bought a Valeo clutch kit from GSF/ECP with a discount code for £70 iirc, and then paid a local garage £200-£250 to fit it.

I had the rattle for quite a while before I got it changed as it does no damage etc, just a bit annoying.

 

[Stevendjk]

I bought a Valeo clutch kit from GSF/ECP with a discount code for £70 iirc, and then paid a local garage £200-£250 to fit it.

I had the rattle for quite a while before I got it changed as it does no damage etc, just a bit annoying.

I have two options with ECP at the moment, Transmech £131 or Sachs £152, a 30% off discount code can be added when checking out. Are either of these brands worth checking out?

 

[Stay Puft]

I don't think so mate, iirc it's Valeo or nothing.

Select the premium box and it's usually Valeo.

Have a read of this from when I was replacing mine:
http://cliosport.net/threads/new-clutch-time.799484/

 

[Stevendjk]

I don't think so mate, iirc it's Valeo or nothing.

Select the premium box and it's usually Valeo.

Have a read of this from when I was replacing mine:
http://cliosport.net/threads/new-clutch-time.799484/

Is this what I'm looking for? It doesn't seem to state the brand anywhere though?

https://m.gsfcarparts.com/189re0290

 

[Stay Puft]

That's the premium one, which 9/10 is Valeo iirc. Wait til the weekend and there is usually a 40% code.

 

[Stevendjk]

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That's the premium one, which 9/10 is Valeo iirc. Wait til the weekend and there is usually a 40% code.

Cheers, as I said earlier the car is driving as it should at the moment it's just that annoying rattling sound so I'm no big rush, I'll wait for discount.

 

[Stevendjk]

Manage to pinpoint the rattle coming from clutch this evening, it's definitely the clutch.
Took the car out for about a 20 minute drive, the rattle has now disappeared but my guess is it will return when it cools down. Does this sound like a typical clutch problem?

I read this earlier,

A bearing noise that occurs when releasing the clutch pedal to engage the clutch while in neutral, but goes away when the pedal is depressed is caused by a bad transmission input shaft bearing.

 

[Canary172]

Have you experienced clutch judder at all? I endured this when the clutch release bearing in my Cup was on it's last legs.

 

[Canary172]

Have you experienced clutch judder at all? I endured this when the clutch release bearing in my Cup was on it's last legs.

 

[hipwell]

It's not the fork vibrating around the gearbox is It?

Take the cable off the fork and lightly put your finger on it and see if the vibration is still there

 

[Stevendjk]

Have you experienced clutch judder at all? I endured this when the clutch release bearing in my Cup was on it's last legs.

No judder at all, everything still works as it should, just that rattle noise when idling in neutral...

 

[Stevendjk]

It's not the fork vibrating around the gearbox is It?

Take the cable off the fork and lightly put your finger on it and see if the vibration is still there

I will have to look into this, if it is the fork is it easy to fix?

 

[hipwell]

If it is the fork then it's probably just a little looser in its housing than it used to be so is vibrating on the gearbox.
It might not be that but it's worth checking if the rattle goes away when you press the clutch down.

It could be the release bearing rattling while there is no pressure on It, which if it is you will need to take the box off to investigate.

 

[hipwell]

If it is the fork then it's probably just a little looser in its housing than it used to be so is vibrating on the gearbox.
It might not be that but it's worth checking if the rattle goes away when you press the clutch down.

It could be the release bearing rattling while there is no pressure on It, which if it is you will need to take the box off to investigate.

 

[Stevendjk]

If it is the fork then it's probably just a little looser in its housing than it used to be so is vibrating on the gearbox.
It might not be that but it's worth checking if the rattle goes away when you press the clutch down.

It could be the release bearing rattling while there is no pressure on It, which if it is you will need to take the box off to investigate.

I will be checking out the fork first out of those two, is it easy to adjust the fork, tighten it back up?

 

[hipwell]

Don't think so. It just slots in and sits behind the bearing. Clutch cable been a little slack might cause the fork the resonate a little more.

 

[Stevendjk]

Don't think so. It just slots in and sits behind the bearing. Clutch cable been a little slack might cause the fork the resonate a little more.

So my options are to just put up with the noise or else get the while clutch replaced? The car has recently just hit 80k and there is no evidence of a clutch replacement in those 80k miles.

 

[hipwell]

If thats where the noise is coming from then yeh. You don't have to change the clutch you can just change the bearing but you'd be daft to have the box off and not do the clutch.

80k is young for a clutch on one of these h
Unless it's been abused

 

[Stevendjk]

If thats where the noise is coming from then yeh. You don't have to change the clutch you can just change the bearing but you'd be daft to have the box off and not do the clutch.

80k is young for a clutch on one of these h
Unless it's been abused

That's what I was thinking might as well replace the whole clutch when the box is off.
I've owned the car for the past two months, so it hasn't been me abusing it lol

 

[Stay Puft]

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