Social group?
The same Social group that thinks you can't go for a spirited drive without breaking the speed limit.
Most 1*2's are sadly charver buckets where I stay. A lot of 182's at the moment due to the drop in price.
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Social group?
The same Social group that thinks you can't go for a spirited drive without breaking the speed limit.
Most 1*2's are sadly charver buckets where I stay. A lot of 182's at the moment due to the drop in price.
R.S. Iirc.Lol Chris.
Some good points Roy. Is the flipside that (some) owners of newer/pricier RS brands perhaps overstate the egotistical attachment? Are any of the road going RS range really that exclusive in all honesty?
Vive la différence
Roy will have you on copyght.
I Seen 12 FRS' just while walking to my car this morning so common...
Charmed Im sure!
I reckon its about half and half round here between standard/tidy ones and lexus lit 17" wearing chav ones.
I knew full well there would be plenty of Focus RS digs. I'm not going to dignify those comments by responding. This isn't about that. It's about young kids rolling around in £2k Renaultsport Clios, generally annoying everyone and crashing, and of course loitering in a once well respected online community. More importantly, how genuine & sensible enthusiasts feel about this stereotype of the car they enjoy. Congratulations to those prize peni at missing the point by a mile, and attacking other cars because they can't think of an intelligent response.
I think you're a prize prick, Roy, but I credit you with enough intelligence to know that you simply can't have expected anything else?
As a non-chav (?!) driving a 1*2 occasionally, I personally couldn't care less. It's inevitable with any car in the hot hatch category. They all have Chavs driving them. Just the cheaper the car, generally speaking the greater the number.
As a non-chav (?!) driving a 1*2 occasionally, I personally couldn't care less. It's inevitable with any car in the hot hatch category. They all have Chavs driving them. Just the cheaper the car, generally speaking the greater the number.
MarcB
ClioSport Club Member
182 Trophy & 197 F1
I agree with what roy has said in his first post and its a shame but i think that once a car has got the tag of the "chav" car or the "Boy Racer" car then there is no getting away from it.
The Escort S2 is stunningly OE and very very clean and yet its a chav car even tho its 21 year old.
My vectra is a nice big comfy car with only 500 made but its classed as a rusty reps car.
The Escort S2 is stunningly OE and very very clean and yet its a chav car even tho its 21 year old.
My vectra is a nice big comfy car with only 500 made but its classed as a rusty reps car.
182
I made that very comment in the driving stories section not so long since. It would appear that a couple of years ago a "had a play with.." topic garnered a myriad of "me too" reponses. Now it collects nothing but Fast and Furious quotes. I can't imagine that driving styles have changed all that much since then. More that the current zeitgeist seems to be one of an aloof, condescending, achingly cool scene. Not that patronising the living s**t out of some spotty teen who has just out-dragged his mates VTR isn't amusing. Just that some could do with remembering what they were like when they were a scant few years younger.
Personally, I'm too old to worry about being cool. Which brings me on to the subject at hand... I couldn't care less whether the 182 is seen as a chav wagon. I get called all sorts of names for driving mine and I would still go out and buy another if this one got stolen. What's interesting is the difference between the perception of cars from folks the like of which you see on here and the general populace. On here a EK9 is the epitome of cool. Among most people I know it would be monstrously, offensively chavvy. Among these "others" the 182 is far from chavvy. Certainly not in the same league as a Saxo or some old Honda Civic.
So, in summary to answer the original queston (IMO of course!): Among enthusiasts: Probably. Among the general populace: Nope.
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Not really digs though, it's just the way it is as with the 1*2's. Who cares what others think at the end of the day it's what it means to the individual that counts. Plus you can hardly comment on personal insults thing...
Yeah defo seems to be this years CS atmosphere!
p@blo
ClioSport Club Member
Clio/A3
lol :rasp:
Does standard = non chavvy though?
In think as far as people's perception goes, definitely. Or less chavvy, at least.
I want rid of my exhaust because it attracts the wrong kind of attention. Not because I'm bothered about peoples opinions. But there's no doubt I probably get labelled a chav by some, albeit never to my face.
I want rid of my exhaust because it attracts the wrong kind of attention. Not because I'm bothered about peoples opinions. But there's no doubt I probably get labelled a chav by some, albeit never to my face.
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you arent bothered about other peoples opinions but are bothered that it attracts the wrong type of attention - presuambly from other people?
Man up and leave it on if you really dont care.
Bloody hell! Some serious Y front twisting in here! So defensive.
I wonder if anyone actually read the op.
As for the Ek9 comments I think they are so unfounded.
All these points are negative to young chavsters...
Higher Cost to buy
Higher insurance
Slower (marginally)
Smaller Engine (isn't this what chavs look at first)
Old
To me the Ek9 is more a thinking man's choice, all imo of course but I hope you can see where I'm coming from.
I wonder if anyone actually read the op.
As for the Ek9 comments I think they are so unfounded.
All these points are negative to young chavsters...
Higher Cost to buy
Higher insurance
Slower (marginally)
Smaller Engine (isn't this what chavs look at first)
Old
To me the Ek9 is more a thinking man's choice, all imo of course but I hope you can see where I'm coming from.
275 Trophy
Golfs seem to be the de facto chav wagon round my way, for the younger generation anyway - clio's far too girly. To be honest, I think Ford, Subaru, Mitsubishi et al produce pre-chaved factory cars, for middle aged chavs who think because they didn't buy it all from Halfords, it must be uber cool. It's the same mods, only better quality. You'd hardly call a Focus R.S. a 'Q' car would you? So, what would you call it? Expensive chav wagon?
clio 182
right i have sat and read this topic from start to finish ...what a load of cobblers!!.. all it appears to me is that some old bloke is becoming a miserable old bloke and wants to moan about some thing.......to be honest WHO GIVES A SHITE?
You enjoy your car how u enjoy it....they enjoy theirs!..and if they want to act like however you deem them ..let them!! are they bothering you? are u telling me there is never a song on the radio ( in your case sounds like it should be a wireless ) you like to turn up loud? just because its not music from your or my era it does not deem it to be rubbish by every one if they like it its up to them, i supose because iam 26 and i have a 182 with a rs192 system on it iam deemed to be a chav then?......bugger iam gonna loose lots of sleep over that tonight
You enjoy your car how u enjoy it....they enjoy theirs!..and if they want to act like however you deem them ..let them!! are they bothering you? are u telling me there is never a song on the radio ( in your case sounds like it should be a wireless ) you like to turn up loud? just because its not music from your or my era it does not deem it to be rubbish by every one if they like it its up to them, i supose because iam 26 and i have a 182 with a rs192 system on it iam deemed to be a chav then?......bugger iam gonna loose lots of sleep over that tonight
Clearly you do. If the topic bores you then move on. The OP was quite clear.
182
Kinda my point - To you, an enthusiast, it is a cool car. As it is to many on here. However to many it is simply an old Honda Civic. As such is probably chavvier than a bodykitted, bespoilered Halfords special Saxo and waaaay chavvier than a 182.
What an automotive enthusiast sees as chavvy is not the same as what Joe Q Public sees as chavvy.
Another, unrelated point - I reckon the colour makes a difference. I have friends who have no problem with my car (apart from the noise it makes possibly..) but wouldn't be seen dead in a striped RB 182.
275 Trophy
I'm in exactly the same situation Lagerlout is (that you repliedt to), but I have left it on (the exhaust & the lexarse lights). I have been known to drive 'enthuasticly' too, but does that make me a chav?
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
People need to stop getting so agitated about it. PMSL. Well funny thread.
Roy - successful thread is successful.
Roy - successful thread is successful.
If you have a loud exhaust and drive enthusiastically, then technically in the true definition of the word, yes you are a chav. Nothing to be ashamed of though, i was once a chav, along with many other people.
He consulted myself before hand but I never expected him to catch so many whoppers!
I seen less defending at the Inter Milan Barcelona game last year.
clio 182
why dont you move on and let people do what they want with their cars? a few posts about it on an forum aint going to stop it .
They are just jealous IMO Roy, its not hard to fathom. Most people would like a car like yours, but when you have to take out a 150% APR loan over 12 years and pay £4k a year for insurance for a Clio that some might regard as chavvy, you can see why they get all jumpy.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
LOL.
Deal wid it.
Deal wid it.
LOL.
Deal wid it.
LOL.
"I really don't understand the vexing. I thought the OP was quite broad and well balanced. I was inviting a discussion among like minded petrol heads"
"Re: Is the 172/182 now a charver bucket?"
I think you may need to reconsider your thread titles in future, if that really is your aim
"Re: Is the 172/182 now a charver bucket?"
I think you may need to reconsider your thread titles in future, if that really is your aim
Trust someone as vain as you to think of that kind of attention.
Attention as in being tailgated/egged on by chavs. Seemingly quite a few in my town.
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