K-Tec ITB conversion...

[mini-valver]

No no, you're missing the point. Im not arguing AWT vs GDI, if GDI had made the breather I have, and I had the same set-up as yours, I'd agree that yours was much much neater, and better designed to do both jobs that its supposed to; Be a better oil breather and a coil pack bracket....


The thread is about how neat the Ktec install looks and you go all pissy when it was compared to the cars next to it, GDI.
SO yes, you hippocrate, it is getting boring.

lol,

sorry, i just assumed you disliked the k-tec car's bracket as its similar (the same item) to the GDI. i do apologise. I guess its what i am used to around here.

but like its been said, each to thier own. no need to try and be clever, boy.

I said it could be better. Did you miss that or were you blind with rage about someone saying the cars next to the K-tec one, looked badly finished? Boy.

 

[Laura]

i think its oppinion as stated above, i like neat clinical looking things so i would go got the smaller one , dave would yours fit on a f4r or would it need redesigning?

 

[mini-valver]

Fits them all, the K4M is a slightly smaller 2.0 in design....

 

[Christopher]

I liked the catch tank too.... Fairy Liquid.

 

[mini-valver]

Chris....

 

[Christopher]

Some boy

 

[fmp_]

lol,

sorry, i just assumed you disliked the k-tec car's bracket as its similar (the same item) to the GDI. i do apologise. I guess its what i am used to around here.

but like its been said, each to thier own. no need to try and be clever, boy.

I said it could be better. Did you miss that or were you blind with rage about someone saying the cars next to the K-tec one, looked badly finished? Boy.

calm down.

to be honest, i couldnt care less about your car. I did almost feel sorry for you when you were being mugged off with the whole build. but now i dont really care.

alot of people on here seem so short sighted. yes the ktec look 110% top b****cks. so it should. its gonna generate some business from it. My car is a work in progress. Its actually getting an entire new engine loom as we type, so it will look good.

And hey, i might even buy a proper catch tank, if it makes you lot sleep better at night.

At the end of the day were all doing our own thing. I am driving mine on track, your..... i dont even know, finishing it? rebuilding it? starting it?? whatever.

I dont even know how this whole thread has once again turned into some personal slagging match. like i said above, i dont care for you or your car.

The anomosity and agressive nature of this site actually puts me off owning a clio, its like nothing i have ever experienced before. but hey there we go, and in usual manner, i will sign off with one final insult (thats the norm isnt it?)..... no matter how great your coil pack bracket is, that crinkle effect paint, is, f**king s**t.

peace.

 

[Laura]

fmp... jesus2?

lol

 

[mini-valver]

Lol! I actually quite like you, and haven't insulted you once

So yeah, hippocrate. You were the one jumping down peoples throat when they questioned the state of the installs, nothing more, nothing less!

 

[Laura]

dave... do you like me

i love you...

and chris
and big oor

 

[mini-valver]

Yeah, contrary to popular belief! I've got no issues with anyone, I just voice my opinion!

 

[Sean.]

i thought both were eqaully impressive, with Matt clearly focused on usability and function whereas the ktec one has been engineered to look as stock as is possible when that amount of mods are done.

i garuntee that when ktec built the car they wanted to keep everything as mint and as tidy as possible...whereas matt's is more; if it works...use it kind of approach, both justifable in their own right.

in all honety id swap my clio for either of them in an instant...

shame the ktec one was unmapped and not on track, maybe another event soon.

 

[Gaz_]

lol @ Gaz.... You still miss your Cup don't you dude?

Aye sometimes, oh hum

 

[BenR]

I think all are missing the point, function over form yes....but the stock breather plate has a pissy 6mm hole for the engine to breath through so the -10 fitting allows increased breather areas with the option to open up another window underneath the billet breather plate. The coilpack mounts are just a by product and a simple way to solve 2 issues.

1 peice or 2 peices, some spacers and some washers to shim it all up?

Mind you, mine will be more expensive.

 

[TJB182]

It seems to me, and im no expert, that all the arguments of K-Tec vs GDi/Angelworks iTB setups (on the basis of looks) are all moot, as K-Tecs bodies are fitted to their demo car, which has obviously had a f**k load of time and money thrown at it, and all the others were fitted to usable cars.

Not a single car that leaves KTec after the conversion is going to look like that when it comes out. I wouldnt be suprised if theyd put 10x the amount of hours into that demo car than any of our cars would get, and its obviously worked cos there seems to be a shitload of people terribly impressed by the fact that the Ktec engine is shiny and tidy, and the GDi ones werent.

At the end of the day, theyer serve a purpose. You dont have ITBs fitted to show off, they do a job, and aslong as they do that job well, and youre happy, who cares about what anyone else thinks? Esp if youre arguing over how they look, when your bonnet is only gonna be up for a couple of show dates in a year.

 

[deltav]

I’m curious, how would you make the coil bracket better? I imagine it was done to look as neat as possible with very little excess material so as to not add weight unnecessarily and to hit a pacific cost target. To which I would say it does all of the above very well. But I guess I don’t know anything about designing brackets so please educate me?

I thank ya.....



*cue all the "it took ages though" brigade*

that looks very nice and i appreciate that its also mostly the size it is to accommodate the breather as stated. But it is designed to suite a very different brief. that bracket is designed to stand out as much as possible (which is fine) but it may not be to everyone’s tastes (same as the gdi/ktec one isnt). The ktec one looks like its designed to look as good as possible while still keeping costs sensible so the overall kit price doesn’t get pushed into silly money.

but if the angleworks one was designed as part of a kit that was sold as a one day fitment drive in drive out scheme would you pay the extra money for the large bracket? Difficult to tell from the pic but it looks like its been machined from both sides from what would have been a 2-3inch thick billet. i can see that sort of bracket being retailed for somewhere in the region of £150-£200. to me that’s allot of money just to hold the coil off the top of the engine.


some people like spending that sort of money on bling but each to there own i guess.

 

[Ali]

Same boring argument! Give it a rest. This was about k-tec's kit. Not GDI's or AWT's!

 

[K-Tec Racing]

It seems to me, and im no expert, that all the arguments of K-Tec vs GDi/Angelworks iTB setups (on the basis of looks) are all moot, as K-Tecs bodies are fitted to their demo car, which has obviously had a f**k load of time and money thrown at it, and all the others were fitted to usable cars.

Not a single car that leaves KTec after the conversion is going to look like that when it comes out. I wouldnt be suprised if theyd put 10x the amount of hours into that demo car than any of our cars would get, and its obviously worked cos there seems to be a s**tload of people terribly impressed by the fact that the Ktec engine is shiny and tidy, and the GDi ones werent.

At the end of the day, theyer serve a purpose. You dont have ITBs fitted to show off, they do a job, and aslong as they do that job well, and youre happy, who cares about what anyone else thinks? Esp if youre arguing over how they look, when your bonnet is only gonna be up for a couple of show dates in a year.

You will be surprised how little the extra work was to get our engine bay to look like it does. It is just a case of neatly installing the loom and maybe making some small custom brackets, that is it. Obviously we have a few shiny bits and nice hoses but there is no reason why we cannot do the same on a customers car.

David.

 

[CalClioCup]

This thread is really interesting, I'm looking to get my car TB'd (standard cams) within the next year. I've no idea who to choose to do it, I'm based in North Wales so GDi would be closest, but after seeing the K-Tec bay at FCS it did look very tidy. Painting the cam cover makes a big difference visually I guess as well as all the other bits K-tec did. I want it to look stock but refined, clean and tidy at the right price. So I guess that would be K-tec?

Do GDi remove the slam panel or cut it? Any body got any pics of a GDi TB'd bay?

Also could anyone shed any light on to add on costs to the quoted prices, realistically what am I looking at paying? Things like smaller radiator's and live maps, are the completely necessary?

Cheers, I'm kinda lost lol

 

[Lagerlout]

GDI either cut it or remove it, can't remember which, but they're using longer trumpets than the KTEC kit so they have to.

 

[CalClioCup]

GDI either cut it or remove it, can't remember which, but they're using longer trumpets than the KTEC kit so they have to.

Really don't want a butchered looking job... Shorter trumpets aren't the end of world right??

 

[Lagerlout]

Depends. If you need those extra 10 ponies then yes.

In my opinion, on a road car... it's not important.

 

[Christopher]

dave... do you like me

i love you...

and chris
and big oor

hi

 

[Laura]

the GDi kit and the k-tec are both jenvey kits.

the GDI one can look identical to that with the shorter trumpets (as desplayed at FCS) there is no need to remove the slam pannel, but there will be a loss of power compared to the longer ones, its completely up to you if you want more power and no slam panel or less power and to keep it.

All the covers ive seen have been painted, usually black, i think the fact the k-tec one is white it stands out, but agin something you could do easly yourself

 

[Middo]

It seems to me, and im no expert, that all the arguments of K-Tec vs GDi/Angelworks iTB setups (on the basis of looks) are all moot, as K-Tecs bodies are fitted to their demo car, which has obviously had a f**k load of time and money thrown at it, and all the others were fitted to usable cars.

Not a single car that leaves KTec after the conversion is going to look like that when it comes out. I wouldnt be suprised if theyd put 10x the amount of hours into that demo car than any of our cars would get, and its obviously worked cos there seems to be a s**tload of people terribly impressed by the fact that the Ktec engine is shiny and tidy, and the GDi ones werent.

At the end of the day, theyer serve a purpose. You dont have ITBs fitted to show off, they do a job, and aslong as they do that job well, and youre happy, who cares about what anyone else thinks? Esp if youre arguing over how they look, when your bonnet is only gonna be up for a couple of show dates in a year.

You will be surprised how little the extra work was to get our engine bay to look like it does. It is just a case of neatly installing the loom and maybe making some small custom brackets, that is it. Obviously we have a few shiny bits and nice hoses but there is no reason why we cannot do the same on a customers car.

David.

glad to hear that! had gone off the idea of throttle bodies but will probably end up giving you a call to have a chat

 

[CalClioCup]

Its a road car... K-Tec ftw? Less hassle and tidier? Cheaper even?

 

[Laura]

dave... do you like me

i love you...

and chris
and big oor

hi

hiya

 

[Christopher]

Same boring argument! Give it a rest. This was about k-tec's kit. Not GDI's or AWT's!

Spot on.

I wouldn't have started this if i knew where it was going to go.... again.

 

[Ali]

I suppose it all depends what you want. I gained 22bhp from exhaust, decat, maxogen, remap, inlets and headwork...More than enough for me. If you want more power then TB's are the answer, i wouldn't even consider the Turbo....

 

[fmp_]

This thread is really interesting, I'm looking to get my car TB'd (standard cams) within the next year. I've no idea who to choose to do it, I'm based in North Wales so GDi would be closest, but after seeing the K-Tec bay at FCS it did look very tidy. Painting the cam cover makes a big difference visually I guess as well as all the other bits K-tec did. I want it to look stock but refined, clean and tidy at the right price. So I guess that would be K-tec?

Do GDi remove the slam panel or cut it? Any body got any pics of a GDi TB'd bay?

Also could anyone shed any light on to add on costs to the quoted prices, realistically what am I looking at paying? Things like smaller radiator's and live maps, are the completely necessary?

Cheers, I'm kinda lost lol

GDI do remove it (its like 6 bolts holding it on), as stated due to the long trumpets.

If you dont cut the grill then you can see there is no slam panel anyways, so in the quest for looking factory, its hardly an issue.

as for who to do to, your getting the same difference with components, just depends who you want to bolt it all on.

Its a good mod tho, for the noise alone!

 

[Ali]

^You getting the new TB's from GDI soon, i'm yet to see and feedback from them!?

 

[Lagerlout]

the GDi kit and the k-tec are both jenvey kits.

the GDI one can look identical to that with the shorter trumpets (as desplayed at FCS) there is no need to remove the slam pannel, but there will be a loss of power compared to the longer ones, its completely up to you if you want more power and no slam panel or less power and to keep it.

All the covers ive seen have been painted, usually black, i think the fact the k-tec one is white it stands out, but agin something you could do easly yourself

Do you work for GDI?

 

[Ali]

the GDi kit and the k-tec are both jenvey kits.

the GDI one can look identical to that with the shorter trumpets (as desplayed at FCS) there is no need to remove the slam pannel, but there will be a loss of power compared to the longer ones, its completely up to you if you want more power and no slam panel or less power and to keep it.

All the covers ive seen have been painted, usually black, i think the fact the k-tec one is white it stands out, but agin something you could do easly yourself

Do you work for GDI?

Just an adoring fan!

 

[Lagerlout]

Ah I see.

Anyway. 2 live is the only person that can tune clios tbh.

 

[Ali]

Ah I see.

Anyway. 2 live is the only person that can tune clios tbh.

Only person to drive them blind folded too! Infact where is that wee deviant no seen his rusty, ratty williams loving ass for a while!

 

[Lagerlout]

Seeing as we've mentioned his name and his rusty old car he'll be here in seconds. It's like saying beetlejuice three times lol.

 

[Laura]

i was up at his new house the other week, i think the 059 or what ever number it is is yup for sale

 

[sideways danny]

^You getting the new TB's from GDI soon, i'm yet to see and feedback from them!?

been on on there for one race and one show/track day

 

[Ali]

^You getting the new TB's from GDI soon, i'm yet to see and feedback from them!?

been on on there for one race and one show/track day

&?

 

[sideways danny]

you asked a question, I answered it.