they sound, in the words of my mrs - like a bloody rally car, and in the words of my manager - like a b*****d rally car, and in the words of a lad at work, well no words, just a big cheesy grin for ages and then my cars gotta have one of those!
if i remember mate ill let you know how far the b/box is off the ground on my RT (lowered 1 click 35mm) and im sure you can find out how much lower the 16v is as standard
gonna also try an take some pics tomorrow if its not rainin !