K20 powered 172

[scullyg40]

Yes, loving this. Looking forward to following this. 😎😎

 

[Nafoff]

What was Plan A and Plan B?

 

[Chambers_RS]

What was Plan A and Plan B?

A was ITBs 😂
B was vag 1.9 20v t engine 😂

 

[Chambers_RS]

Not throwing it in the hole stock 👌🏻

Pile of upgrades

Honda timing chain chain kit

550cc injectors

Alternator relocation kit and billet thermostat housing

New style PMS top mounts

Hybrid racing shifter and cables

 

[Krarl]

Right and where is the turbo/supercharger?

Don't be a massive vagina, we all know you've got deep pockets😉😂

 

[Chambers_RS]

Right and where is the turbo/supercharger?

Don't be a massive vagina, we all know you've got deep pockets😉😂

Haha not that deep and only plastic 🙄😂😂😂

I toyed with the idea of boost but thought it might take away the Clio personality 🙄😂😂😂 if that’s at all possible with a Honda engine 😂

Need my mounting kit now 😉

 

[Krarl]

Haha not that deep and only plastic 🙄😂😂😂

I toyed with the idea of boost but thought it might take away the Clio personality 🙄😂😂😂 if that’s at all possible with a Honda engine 😂

Need my mounting kit now 😉

I give it 3 trackdays tops before you announce which turbo you've gone for😂😂

Honestly Danny's sequential just makes gears look like blurs😂 Just thought I'd throw that in there for you too😉👀

 

[Louis]

Not throwing it in the hole stock 👌🏻

Pile of upgrades
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Honda timing chain chain kit
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550cc injectors
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Alternator relocation kit and billet thermostat housing
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New style PMS top mounts
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Hybrid racing shifter and cables
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The shifters you can get for these engine/gearboxes are sooo much nicer than the clio offering. Dont blame you for going this route and cant wait for the updates!

What's happening with the exhaust?

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Makes a lot of sense. The K20 seems to produce decent numbers with fairly simple changes. I'd keep it normally aspirated too personally. If I wanted forced induction, I'd just buy a Mégane lol

 

[Chambers_RS]

I give it 3 trackdays tops before you announce which turbo you've gone for😂😂

Honestly Danny's sequential just makes gears look like blurs😂 Just thought I'd throw that in there for you too😉👀

Haha, I’d go sequential before turbo I reckon 😂

 

[Chambers_RS]

The shifters you can get for these engines are sooo much nicer than the clio offering. Dont blame you for going this route and cant wait for the updates!

What's happening with the exhaust?

Yeah defo! This hybrid shifter is proper smart.

Got a new manifold and link pipe coming but want a RamHorn exhaust manifold which I’ll sort once it’s in and working

 

[Chambers_RS]

Makes a lot of sense. The K20 seems to produce decent numbers with fairly simple changes. I'd keep it normally aspirated too personally. If I wanted forced induction, I'd just buy a Mégane lol

Yeah they do seem to 👍🏻

 

[RustyMojo]

Christ a proper budget build then 😂😳 can’t wait to see this develop

 

[scotiamr2t]

Good choice @Chambers_RS

Although hope you have the grinder and welder ready.

 

[frayz]

Proper motor. Probably the finest road going NA 4 pot ever designed. I’d keep it NA too.

 

[haimsey]

This is going to be mega when finished, unless you get it nearly done and then decide to change to plan D....

I agree though, keep it n/a

 

[Hxrry]

Only just caught up on the thread! Serious bit of kit!!

I sold a car to Danny @ Custom Production who're manufacturing a kit for the k20 swaps, he was telling me about the progress they're making on the kits and it sounds very promising! Is that the kit you're going for too?

 

[Chambers_RS]

Only just caught up on the thread! Serious bit of kit!!

I sold a car to Danny @ Custom Production who're manufacturing a kit for the k20 swaps, he was telling me about the progress they're making on the kits and it sounds very promising! Is that the kit you're going for too?

Yeah I’ve paid for Danny’s kit 👌🏻

Just need it now 😂

 

[Mickb]

Didnt expect that, awesome look forward to seeing it develop... is there a plan d? 😂

 

[Chambers_RS]

Spent some time on the Clio fitting some nee parts.

Started by getting my Laguna hubs built up. I’ve machined these to be able to produce much more camber and accept a large ball joint pin bolt.

Got a 20 tonne press to press the bearings in which worked really well.

The hubs needed the machine work to take advantage of the PMS suspension

Subframe was strengthened by PMS

And to finish the hubs off with some new brakes

Think I’ll have an issue with wheels fitting over them 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also got a new heated windscreen and the Honda gearbox is booked in for a plated diff to be fitted on the 15th.

 

[frayz]

Loving the zero corners cut approach you’re doing on this. Can’t wait to see it come together. 🙂

 

[scullyg40]

OMFG. 😅😎

 

[scotiamr2t]

the PMS AP brake kit is epic, what wheels you trying to fit it under? I’m contemplating swapping to the laguna hubs aswel but undecided as yet

I’ve made my own tubular subframe and lower arms, waiting on my custom RC pins arriving before I can fit it all together

 

[haimsey]

Judging by the effort so far, the result already speaks for itself

with regard wiring, you using standard Honda engine/Renault interior looms and trimming out the unused wires? Or going for a full custom loom?

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Going all in with this!

 

[Chambers_RS]

the PMS AP brake kit is epic, what wheels you trying to fit it under? I’m contemplating swapping to the laguna hubs aswel but undecided as yet

I’ve made my own tubular subframe and lower arms, waiting on my custom RC pins arriving before I can fit it all together

The Kits really nice but designed around the Braid wheels that puremotorsport sell. Nick doesn’t think this kit will fit under TD 1.2s which I’ll need to address 😂

I’d be very interested in seeing the tubular subframe and arms if you don’t mind posting pic or PM them?

 

[Chambers_RS]

Judging by the effort so far, the result already speaks for itself

with regard wiring, you using standard Honda engine/Renault interior looms and trimming out the unused wires? Or going for a full custom loom?

Thanks bud.

I was going full custom loom with DTA ecu on the ITB engine but not really sure on this yet.
The Honda KproV4 seems an incredibly easy option with it fitting the OE loom etc and seems a really good piece of kit.

Once the engine is in I’ll look more in to that.

 

[scotiamr2t]

The Kits really nice but designed around the Braid wheels that puremotorsport sell. Nick doesn’t think this kit will fit under TD 1.2s which I’ll need to address 😂

I’d be very interested in seeing the tubular subframe and arms if you don’t mind posting pic or PM them?

I’ll send over a few snaps of the subframe etc when I’m back at the garage midweek.

I hope the brakes fit under ultraleggeras as I’ve 2 sets still in boxes

 

[RuskiWeldFab]

I’ll send over a few snaps of the subframe etc when I’m back at the garage midweek.

I hope the brakes fit under ultraleggeras as I’ve 2 sets still in boxes

It doesn’t fit under ultras


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[Chambers_RS]

I’ll send over a few snaps of the subframe etc when I’m back at the garage midweek.

I hope the brakes fit under ultraleggeras as I’ve 2 sets still in boxes

Yeah please be good to see. I was thinking about going that route until this kit popped up.

Fingers crossed, if you send Nick a wheel he’ll trail fit it over the brakes before you buy

 

[Chambers_RS]

It doesn’t fit under ultras


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Is it just the Braids that clear?

 

[scotiamr2t]

@RuskiWeldShit even with spacers? Not ideal as I have expensive brakes in a box and wheels in a box that don’t work 🤦‍♂️

 

[Twingo 1??]

If you want wheels with good clearance for big brakes td Pro rallys are good for space. I used to run alcon 4pots and 300mm discs with them on my rally puma. Most gravel rally wheels are designed to run with the biggest brakes you can under them.
Ps your mental! (in a good way)

 

[Chambers_RS]

Yeah TD 1.2s don’t clear either.

 

[RuskiWeldFab]

Is it just the Braids that clear?

With 10mm spacer my ultralites clear


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[RuskiWeldFab]

@RuskiWeldShit even with spacers? Not ideal as I have expensive brakes in a box and wheels in a box that don’t work [emoji2357]

With a very large spacer maybe. But anything above 15mm is silly and it will need more


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[RuskiWeldFab]

Spent some time on the Clio fitting some nee parts.

Started by getting my Laguna hubs built up. I’ve machined these to be able to produce much more camber and accept a large ball joint pin bolt.

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Got a 20 tonne press to press the bearings in which worked really well.

The hubs needed the machine work to take advantage of the PMS suspension

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Subframe was strengthened by PMS

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And to finish the hubs off with some new brakes

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Think I’ll have an issue with wheels fitting over them [emoji2359]

Also got a new heated windscreen and the Honda gearbox is booked in for a plated diff to be fitted on the 15th.

Also that design of wishbones is totally diffrent to mine. Is that not PMS I assume?


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[robzracing]

This is AP news isn’t good. I’ve been ordering these from Nick this week although he’s out of stock of the discs at the moment.
I run both ultraleggeras and 1.2s so I really need these to fit.
I hope the 18mm spacers will help but I’d better speak to Nick first.


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[Chambers_RS]

Also that design of wishbones is totally diffrent to mine. Is that not PMS I assume?


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It’s PMS. Just the original design.

 

[Chambers_RS]

This is AP news isn’t good. I’ve been ordering these from Nick this week although he’s out of stock of the discs at the moment.
I run both ultraleggeras and 1.2s so I really need these to fit.
I hope the 18mm spacers will help but I’d better speak to Nick first.


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My 1.2s I tried in the pic above have 20mm spacers on and don’t clear

It’s more the barrel of the wheel than the spokes