Kangoo 172 cup

[Brigsy]

Updates.

Gtt is sold! The time was right, as not used it in 3 years and had no real plans to use it with the Trophy added to the collection.

A few pics of it all cleaned up for the memories.

Bought this ex cup racer suite from 1986 last week from Vinted, cost a few quid but had to have it, and thought it would be nice to have a few pics wearing it next to the car for a nice keepsake. 18 years of Renault5 ownership is over.

Over and out H34BDM its been a blast!!

 

[Brigsy]

After the gtt going i needed a bit of turbo fix. Had to go to Bishop Auckland to collect a techincs amp and large speakers for my garage sound system. As they were too long for the Kangoo took the Extra van.

Forgot how good this is to drive. The noise, the smell of fuel, oil and shame. Flames on the upshifts and bangs on the downshifts. So good, its absolute asbo and i love it.

The only downside is that its also quite tiring to drive at the same time especially when in low speed situations. Solid engine mounts, 4 paddle clutch which bites savage. Combine that with maximum positive camber, manual steering and small Sabelt steering wheel, bosch 044 pump whining and side exit droning and its a headache around the streets. Wouldnt change it mind!!

Also had a tidy out of the garage and used it to ferry some parts from one lockup to another. On its arse.

Mrs driving to save me getting the gloves coated in s**t.

Its been great to get it back out again and will enjoy it a bit before summer is out.

Thanks for reading!!

 

[Crayola]

Seeing your extra van always makes me want a van, seen a nice Extra van on ebay the other day... nearly 5 grand mind 😂

 

[Brigsy]

Seeing your extra van always makes me want a van, seen a nice Extra van on ebay the other day... nearly 5 grand mind 😂

They are either free and look like they have been parked in the sea or expensive ish no inbetween ground. The one that sold recently in Renault livery was epic. Its mad to think that the vans are a lot rarer than any r5 now.

 

[Crayola]

They are either free and look like they have been parked in the sea or expensive ish no inbetween ground. The one that sold recently in Renault livery was epic. Its mad to think that the vans are a lot rarer than any r5 now.

Yeah it's crackers mate, someone on my street used to have an old AX van. I'd hate to imagine how much they are these days!

I think your extra wets my whistle more than the Kangoo does, just for that pure and raw appeal to it

 

[Filipe Dias]

Just read the whole thread. Great cars, great writing, great pictures and a great attention to detail. Hats off to you

Keep on going, it´s a pleasure to read !

 

[Brigsy]

Update

Had to resurrect the old kangoo 172 cup for my mate the other day. Hes neglected the poor thing and its been sat on a drive not used for ages but partly due to the gearbox being a little bit poorly and ive not had time to change it for him.

At mot in January he had a carry on getting it fired up with immob light of doom on the dash and electrical fault light. Went to fire it up this week with a fresh battery and electrical fault light back on, non start and just cranking over. I knew this would be related to the fusebox area as the wiring was not the best by any means as previous owner had been there before.

Ign on and fuel pump was priming so assume some power to fuel pump relay. Stuck can clip on to see whats stored and basically everything sensor wise was in red so was power or trigger fault.

Test meter on fuse box terminals confirmed power at relevant points. Small black relays heavily corroded so cleaned up, no better. White connector of doom showing corrosion on pins, so cleaned up no better. Looked at wiring and small white wire from a black relay had been power probed years ago and corroded which just snapped as soon as i touched it. Bingo

As soon as this was done the throttle body was singing away with ign on and fired right up. Wiring repaired here and there but needs some tlc soon, better condition engine loom ideally.

Daft hour job to fix. Topped up gear oil and took it for a flog out still goes well.

This motivated my mate to do some work to it and he fitted the rear roof lining and storage boxes hes had in stock since buying it off me.

Took some pics with my Kangoo Compact.

Still looks alright, hes cleaning it up to take to Vanned at the motorist this Sat. Good to see it moving again!

Thanks for reading!

 

[Brigsy]

Updates

Done a few small jobs to the Extra. Serviced it, fresh Valvoline vr1 racing 20/50 mineral oil and purflux filter. Ive stuck with the vr1 as it seems like good stuff and oil pressure is epic on it. 4bar oil pressure hot over 3k rpm which is miles better than the average c1j that struggles to do the recomended 3bar at 3500rpm when hot.

Stiffer than morning wood these old van shells!

Done another job ive planned to do for years but not got round to. The engine has always ran pretty cool with no rad cowling but had always planned on making one to force air through the rad core, as air is lazy and will go round it if it can via the easiest route.

I used plastic abs 2mm sheet for the job. Light, easy to cut and mould with the heatgun. I started with a cad template (cardboard aided design) cut and moulded it around the rad core with sides so air forces through. Its not as neat as id like but functional, fitted with rivnuts and bolts.

Road test revealed that it works well, a bit too well to be fair. The engine has always ran cool on injection around 70deg coolant temps when at speed.

It now drops down to 67-68 degrees when at speed and thats with a stock thermostat. Noted coolant temps drop faster when moving from low speed driving. Its only summer use so not an issue, but if it was used in winter low temps id reckon it would run too cool.

Also took it to Mallory Park for Retro Rides Gathering.

Epic day, took it on the afternoon sprint for a couple of runs. I was struggling to get heat into the brakes and tyres as only 2 laps so had 2x runs out and the back end was quite lively on Gerrards at one point so called it a day at that.

The handling with quaife lsd and leda coilovers is unreal feels so planted. Had mega fun pushing the Alfa touring car replica round.

Only got one pic in the pits as was too busy enjoying the day.

Pics ive grabbed from various people thanks for taking them.

Maximum attack on devils elbow. Last time i drove Mallory in it, it would light up the inside tyre in 3rd gear flat down. Loads more traction with the lsd this time round.

A couple of vids @Big_Steve_T kindly took trackside.





Made it back safe and sound. Paris/Nurburgring in it next weekend cant wait.

Thanks for reading!!

 

[Brigsy]

Updates

With the kangoo currently out of action and the Paris/Nurburgring trip on the cards i needed a vehicle capable of the trip.

Was tempted to take the Trophy but its had its fun on the welsh weekender and the clutch is awful and id like it to be mapped for full power. The Blue meg 225 and the orange dci have been to the nurburgring before and the blue diesel is the daily, doing daily things so the natural choice was the Extra van.

With a kind of fuckit attitude "if it breaks it breaks will sort it" and a bit of confidence in being able to build a reilable setup, i give it a quick once over, topped up the oil, changed the back worn out old r888 for a set of part worn 2020 date stamped r888r. New wipers as looked like it was going to piss down and sent it.

Thurs 29th set off from Redcar to Folkestone. Pissing down as expected on route new wipers were a good shout.

Eurotunnel ready to board with @Moggy_rs and Rog

All aboard

Friday 30th, one of many fuel stops in France. 98 octane only was a pisser as its mapped pretty close to the edge on the ign so low boost only.

Carrefour, Elf on a Shelf whilst picking up your weekly groceries.

Made it to Paris no issues apart from the Crit Air low emissions zones Mon-Fri which it does not qualify for which is a pain and can land a fine.

The route to avoid that took us through all the tunnels, making some noise with the side exit exhaust. Bit of adaptronic hard cut limiter



I cant speak a word of French but got a few nods and shouts of Express Turbo which was cool.

 

[Brigsy]

Sat 1st Oct

losange passion international 2022.

What an epic show. Its bi annually and 50years of the r5 was the agenda. Its all Renault and over 700 cars were on show/ 3500 visitors.

Such a good vibe, one of the best car shows ive been to. Parade laps on the banked circuut was awesome.

Extra got so much attention could not believe it. I think its due to the modifications as engine swaps are not legal in France and the Extra/Express van is almost extinct over there, so people will remember using them as work vans etc.

 

[Brigsy]

Jean Ragnotti was there, so got my Sabelt steering wheel signed by him. Ive met him a few times over the last 20 years or so and hes an absolute gentleman.

He said one more pic and puts his hat on my head. Epic

Parked on the banked circuit for a quick pic on parade laps. This was not even the steepest part but felt like i was going to fall out of the seat. Thank god for baffled sump lol.

Maxi Turbo or Fuego pizza!

Onto Paris for madness in the evening. Cafe Renault which was class.

Cut out of Renaut ev

Usual Paris stuff. Nearly got run over by cycles a few times and the driving is madness. Not a fan of visiting cities but was good to spend a couple of hours looking round.

 

[Brigsy]

2nd October.

Reims then Nurburgring. Pissing down and R888R not the best combo! Was alright steady away though

Autobahns in the wet. Put my foot down and Extra was misfiring a little on boost i can only think it was the crap 98octane fuel.

Monday 3rd October.

Woke up to a nice dry yet fresh morning in Adenau.

Filled up with bp ultimate 102octane which cured all issues at the local Aral garage, €2.15 a ltr lol. Noticed an instant improvement in performance and lower egts from this.

Done the usual stuff, down to Devils diner in the morning. Was super busy as i believe it was the german equivalent of a bank hol. Went to Brunnchen to view a bit.

Had the Apex m3 ring Taxi booked so went down at Mid day.

What an experience! 4 up in a stock engine m3, cage, nitrons and PS4S road tyres overtaking everyone on a busy TF/Green hell day. Met Misha the owner and he was cool, he wanted to take the Extra out for a lap for hia Youtube channel. I was worried the high boost map would end up in tears as its more aimed for sprint use than hard sustained use so had to decline. Next time when its detuned or the Kangoo once its done.

Onto the complex for a look round

Then onto the Nurburgring for a sightseer lap on low boost. Super busy which worries me after my crash years ago but still enjoyed it at 5/10ths pace.

 

[Brigsy]

Track was mega busy i had a bm in my blind spot coming into the carussel so didnt drop in as couldnt judge his position. Took the top route which is smooth and i got the power in absolutely seeing him off and exiting before him.

No issues really apart from pulling in the carpark after the lap and opening the bonnet to notice my coolant bottle rising to the top with the engine turned off. Was not too worried as coolant temps fine when running, feeling the coolant hoses to see if hard noted there was no pressure at all, so once cooled i took header tank cap off to discover the seal had popped out of the side when topping up the coolant prior to setting off.

Popped back in place and fixed. Engine temp no different interestingly still runs super cool.

Had a pax lap in my mates bm 340i and seen a merc on fire. Felt gutted for the owner, i guess it was too late once he had seen the flames.

Onto PK for beers and steak on the stone in the evening. Ive been to PK loads of times but this time the food was great but the service was s**t, bit dissapointing but nevermind.

Signed the roof above the bar under previous Jonguard.

Tuesday 4th. Photo outside the complex before setting off home.

Topped up tank with 102 octane, Running late for train so hammer down 120mph+ on the autobahns. Endurance driving so quick couple of stops and home by 10:30ish pm.

1500+ miles done!! Epic

Thanks for reading!!

 

[Brigsy]

Updates

Only used the Extra once since the France/Germany trip and that was to pick up a set of cup2's for the Kangoo, mid October iirc. Check out the size difference between the 13" gtt spare and the 18's

Its currently sat sorned in the garage until the weather picks up.

Mrs got me a stack 5 stage sequential shift light for xmas that plugs into the stack dash.

Nice bit of kit, very easy to fit as its a simple plug and play to the dash and is fully programmable for each light via the dash. Ive set the 1st light at 6500 and the final light at 7300rpm for now, which is 300rpm off the 7600rpm hardcut limiter.

Fitted on the cowling in front of the dash.

Vid of it in programming mode.

Stack 5 stage sequential shift light setting up on the Stack st8130 dash in my Renault Extra van.

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Its dimmed in this setting. Daytime mode burns your retina's off. Cant wait to test it out though.

Blue meg is also garaged/sorn for winter. Its not been used much but have enjoyed it when its been out. Must get it used more this year.

Thanks for reading!!