Killed my brakes!

[Tony Hunter]

Its made my day reading some of the hero tripe thats been put in this thread.

Love it.

 

[Alex Conway]

Its made my day reading some of the hero tripe thats been put in this thread.

Love it.

Everyone's self conscious alarm will be going wild. Does it ever feel a bit weird being treated like a deity?

 

[Tony Hunter]

God like, lol no.

Just wish people would actually read their own posts etc, before posting.

Bet most the people don't even know the weight of their car etc, which is another deciding factor in brake choice.

Plus we've had millions of brake threads, and all these include somebody who has managed to warp discs!!

I'll go now and leave you all to it.

Clio's don't need 2k brakes.

 

[Munson]

9/10 warped discs is actually just pad deposits.

 

[warwickstingray]

Had brake fade in the 182 FF i had but that was at the end of a long track day and the pads were low and the discs were well worn. Replaced them and they were all I could want. I really can't fault the standard setup in the Clios. The Cup has really nice brakes. Work great in the wet despite the lack of ABS. For the 15min sessions most of us rank amateurs should be doing they do just fine.

 

[nickc107]

Its made my day reading some of the hero tripe thats been put in this thread.

Love it.

New to the thread so don't know
What brake set up have you got plus car weight etc

 

[Bluebeard]

The last track day I did, I had to emergency fit some £17 halfords pads in the paddock area after the ds2500's fell apart after 2 laps.

I shared the car with a mate so it was out all day and the brakes were fine! Obviously not as responsive as the higher end stuff but no fade, no pad deposits and no disc warping.

 

[Tony Hunter]

New to the thread so don't know
What brake set up have you got plus car weight etc

Stadard discs front and rear
Standard calipers front and rear, minus rubber bits because they melt.
Ebc yellows in the rear, Ebc blues in the front.
Car fully loaded with me in, is 960k

 

[Johnpacey1]

How come you run Yellows in the rear Tony?

I've read everyone says standard is best for the rear. Does it balance the Blues out?

 

[Tony Hunter]

How come you run Yellows in the rear Tony?

I've read everyone says standard is best for the rear. Does it balance the Blues out?

They were cheap, plus they have been in the car since it was built about 5 yrs ago lol.

 

[nickc107]

I have yellow stuff all round with standard rear discs and Brembo front discs bradded hoses all round high boiling point brake fluid no fog lights car stripped 2 seats 6 point roll cage and I am having problems with my front EBC yellow stuff pads after 10 laps at Rockingham

 

[nickc107]

Would the blue stuff be better or Carbon Lorraine pads or should I ditch the Brembo disc
Really getting fed up with it tbh
My missus drives the car on track with no problems
I can drive it also no problems bit a soon as I try running it at race pace I end up with no brakes very quickly

 

[NorthloopCup]

Would the blue stuff be better or Carbon Lorraine pads or should I ditch the Brembo disc
Really getting fed up with it tbh
My missus drives the car on track with no problems
I can drive it also no problems bit a soon as I try running it at race pace I end up with no brakes very quickly

I'd keep the brembo discs but get better pads. There's been plenty listed in the thread mate.

 

[Tony Hunter]

I would try the blues, they are for a slightly heavier car. Don't worry about bits coming off, that means they are working.

 

[Fletcher]

I've just gone back to the OEM calipers running.

Goodridge braided hoses
ATE super blue fluid
Brembo HC discs
CL RC6 Pads
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Looking forward to seeing how they fare on the track

 

[Keith185]

I highly rate Pagid RS4-2 aka (Pagid blues) vs DS2500. They're not the cheapest though!

Agree with Aucky, had both and can't fault the Pagid other than price but then they do last too.

 

[Alex Conway]

I've just gone back to the OEM calipers running.

Goodridge braided hoses
ATE super blue fluid
Brembo HC discs
CL RC6 Pads
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Looking forward to seeing how they fare on the track

Good combo, we often use it in the winter. If you cook the fluid try to remember when you last changed it as Superblue has a vastly different wet and dry boiling temp.

 

[Fletcher]

Good combo, we often use it in the winter. If you cook the fluid try to remember when you last changed it as Superblue has a vastly different wet and dry boiling temp.

What brake fluid do you use Alex?

 

[Alex Conway]

What brake fluid do you use Alex?

Castrol SRF, the main difference is that it retains a lot higher wet boiling point making it more forgiving if you don't change it very often. You might be fine though, so see if you get away with it. We ran blue for a long time.

 

[Fletcher]

Castrol SRF, the main difference is that it retains a lot higher wet boiling point making it more forgiving if you don't change it very often. You might be fine though, so see if you get away with it. We ran blue for a long time.

I've heard that's meant to be good.

I'll keep a eye on the ate super blue, it's cheap so I can afford to change it regularly if needs be.

 

[aucky]

Agree with Aucky, had both and can't fault the Pagid other than price but then they do last too.

Have you had any disk problems? Warping symptoms etc?

 

[nickc107]

Any good guys??
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2371&appid=2

 

[NorthloopCup]

Any good guys??
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2371&appid=2

There's a lot of people running them on here and give them rave reviews mate. I've never used them so have no experience of them.

 

[Fletcher]

Any good guys??
http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2371&appid=2

Ive just fitted some RC6 pads, first impressions are good.

 

[Keith185]

Have you had any disk problems? Warping symptoms etc?

No nothing at all. Used 2 or 3 sets now and no problems. I do file/grind down the edges of the backing plate of them.

Have you had problems with discs using them aucky ?

 

[aucky]

No nothing at all. Used 2 or 3 sets now and no problems. I do file/grind down the edges of the backing plate of them.

Have you had problems with discs using them aucky ?

I warped a set at Anglesey on the GP layout (warped or not, the symptoms were the same).

I assumed it was an isolated incident until someone else mentioned it.

 

[nickc107]

What's the braking efficiency on the rear of the Clio 172/182
I've been told they don't do much??
Does anybody on here use a Brake bias system on there 172/182

 

[NorthloopCup]

What's the braking efficiency on the rear of the Clio 172/182
I've been told they don't do much??
Does anybody on here use a Brake bias system on there 172/182

On a normal 172/182 it's around a 70/30 split. On a 172 cup there's next to no braking effort on the rear and they usually fail mot as a result. This was setup this way by the renaultsport engineers as they had no abs. It's probably nearer 90/10 on the split on a cup tbh.

 

[Tony Hunter]

We drove ours for a while, with the rear brakes disconnected
It was fine.lol.

 

[warwickstingray]

My rears on my cup are mostly minor surface rust. They get a little cleaner each track day. I'll get round to changing them at some point. Handbrake works well enough.

 

[nickc107]

No wonder my front brakes get hot then
Red to white then don't work

 

[nickc107]

Before and after a little sand paper applied to get rid of the glaze

 

[franx]

old thread dig-up:
I mounted the DS2500's and did quite some filing down on the backing plates. Terrible stuff , just changed back to OEM pads.. Even when the brakes were not on , the wheels did not run freely and got real hot. The braking (after running them in properly) was also not all that . The OEM's (just now running 30 miles) are already far better. Mind you i don't do track but very spirited road driving.
A genuine f**king loss of money, these Ferodo's. Shame, but hey i learn every day

 

[imprezaworks]

Never rated them when they were the pad of choice

 

[-Jamie-]

Never rated them when they were the pad of choice

DS2500s are pretty shite tbf when compared to decent pads. Seems it's the same people that rave about RSRs and the likes that recommend them

 

[imprezaworks]

Tbf i do recommend the rsr's lol

 

[Djw John]

2500 are shite, 3000 worked very well but were dead after 2 days so its 1.11 for me next.

 

[Coops Mk1]

Rsr's are okay. Predictable but don't offer much outright grip and squeal thier tits off when on the rather tame limit
Never used ds2500 as they're just a road pad basically aren't they? CL RC6 I use but they are dusty and noisey lol