MarkCup's Fiesta ST

MarkCup · Feb 20, 2016

I'm a few weeks in with MR230 fitted now, I've had a chance for it all to settle in and get a feel for it.

My thoughts?

Don't bother.

MP215 is the sweet spot with the ST.

MR230 has lots going for it, f*ck loads more shove at all revs, but the exhaust is getting louder, the heat shield is now rattling from the exhaust resonance at 2,500 rpm, and I get to use the extra it has over MP215 at best maybe 1% of the time I'm sat in it day to day. When I do get to wring it out, it's the same as before, but I have to back off sooner.

I'm sure on track it'll save a tenth or two, but I could honestly happily go back.

It's been a while, few more costs recently, charts and sh*t...

benhwolves · Feb 21, 2016

Good honest review Mark. I loved the mp215 on my old one and probably would have gone down the 230 route too if I still had it

Matthew · Feb 21, 2016

Great honesty. Looking at your chart above, are the total costs per month £675? Enough to make you think!

MarkCup · Feb 21, 2016

Matthew said:
Great honesty. Looking at your chart above, are the total costs per month £675? Enough to make you think!

That does include £81 per month for what Mountune have had from me but other than that it's exactly what it's cost me to own it and cover the miles I have.

MarkCup · Feb 21, 2016

Here's the noise that's getting on my tits...

ForceIndia · Feb 21, 2016

Good honest perspective. When you reach a certain point it's diminishing returns.

N0ddie · Feb 21, 2016

The Mountune exhaust definitely sounds the best at low revs/tick over. Once you start driving they all sound the same. Completely with you on the MP215 is enough argument. Anything more is too much for the road.

Sir_Dave · Feb 22, 2016

MarkCup said:
Here's the noise that's getting on my tits...

lol, i watched the first 5 seconds and thought i sounded awful!!
Then realised it was a moped :tongueclosed:

brisa4984 · Feb 22, 2016

Jesus that sounds awful

terryc101 · Feb 22, 2016

That noise would drive anyone mental!

Matthew · Feb 22, 2016

Yes it's not exactly a nice tone. Can't you take it off and sell the parts and go back to MP215?

Stay Puft · Feb 22, 2016

That noise is odd. Sounds like a really bad blowing exhaust on a 1.2 corsa!

MarkCup · Feb 22, 2016

Its not that bad in real life, the microphone was right on the tip of the exhaust in the video above!

MarkCup · Feb 23, 2016

Matthew said:
Yes it's not exactly a nice tone. Can't you take it off and sell the parts and go back to MP215?

Not possible, I let them scrap the exhaust as it was on its way out...I have the cat still, but that's the main point of restriction and a good 5 hr DIY job to swap it back.

As said above, it doesn't sound anywhere near that bad in real life...but it's there, and having had many many years now of standard exhausts, I miss the peace and quiet.

ForceIndia · Feb 24, 2016

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/ford-fiesta-m-sport-edition-driven/33792

I reckon that's a nice sounding package

Daz_RT_04 · Feb 24, 2016

Oh, that exhaust would have ruined my time with my old Fiesta.

The induction was tiring at times, having a Cherrybomb exhaust would have tipped me over the edge :smile::smile:

MarkCup · Feb 25, 2016

I was having an off day recently...I'm starting to love it now...helped by me giving the ST a thorough clean at the weekend (first time in five months) and loving the sight of it again.

In other news an ST 'Plus' is on the way it would seem. Speculation rife that it'll give 250 bhp but I can't see it myself. 230 at best I think.

Sir_Dave · Feb 25, 2016

MarkCup said:
In other news an ST 'Plus' is on the way it would seem.

If it looks anything like this ill have one :up:

N0ddie · Feb 25, 2016

MarkCup said:
In other news an ST 'Plus' is on the way it would seem. Speculation rife that it'll give 250 bhp but I can't see it myself. 230 at best I think.

It'll have the MP215 package and some other fancy bits. Any more than the MP215 would affect their longterm warranty.

Martin. · Feb 25, 2016

For the miles you've done Mark. Excluding the modifications. I think £600 in pretty reasonable to be honest.

Will you be at Bedford this weekend?

Al_G · Feb 25, 2016

I love this, really keen to get one as a second car for myself.

How do you find climbing in and out of the back? I might have a baby seat to think about one day soon

N0ddie · Feb 25, 2016

Al_G said:
I love this, really keen to get one as a second car for myself.

How do you find climbing in and out of the back? I might have a baby seat to think about one day soon 😧

A baby chair for a new/small baby is difficult to get in and out every time. Once they are a bit bigger and can have a car/booster seat then its not an issue at all.

CrippsCorner · Feb 25, 2016

Sir_Dave said:
If it looks anything like this ill have one :up:

Yes please!

MarkCup · Feb 25, 2016

N0ddie said:
It'll have the MP215 package and some other fancy bits. Any more than the MP215 would affect their longterm warranty.

Aye, you're probably right.

Martin. said:
For the miles you've done Mark. Excluding the modifications. I think £600 in pretty reasonable to be honest.

Will you be at Bedford this weekend?

Nope, my once a year outing is always mid-summer and Goodwood.

Al_G said:
I love this, really keen to get one as a second car for myself.

How do you find climbing in and out of the back? I might have a baby seat to think about one day soon 😧

As @N0ddie says, for a small one that needs loading in...tricky. The big front chairs do limit access. For me, with 12 and 7 year olds, it is absolutely fine.

treemanx · Feb 29, 2016

The new fiesta ST 200 looks rather pointless.

Poopensharten · Feb 29, 2016

treemanx said:
The new fiesta ST 200 looks rather pointless.

Agreed.

Waitey · Feb 29, 2016

MarkCup said:
I'm a few weeks in with MR230 fitted now, I've had a chance for it all to settle in and get a feel for it.

My thoughts?

Don't bother.

MP215 is the sweet spot with the ST.

MR230 has lots going for it, f*ck loads more shove at all revs, but the exhaust is getting louder, the heat shield is now rattling from the exhaust resonance at 2,500 rpm, and I get to use the extra it has over MP215 at best maybe 1% of the time I'm sat in it day to day. When I do get to wring it out, it's the same as before, but I have to back off sooner.

I'm sure on track it'll save a tenth or two, but I could honestly happily go back.

It's been a while, few more costs recently, charts and sh*t...

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MarkCup · Mar 12, 2016

Waitey said:
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MarkCup · Mar 12, 2016

Today I performed an MR230 map update via the Cobb Accessport that comes as part of the MR230 package.

I'd heard previously from an owner who had real issues with the running of his MR230 which ended up getting resolved by way of a visit to Mountune, and also, Charlie at Surrey Rolling Road told me at the RR day a few weeks back that he'd had an MR230 owner run that was way down on power and as a result he wasn't in Mountune's good books.

So as it turns out Mountune have released a revised MR230 map...it's not been publicised by them and I only became aware of it from a user on STOC who posted having issues with getting the update to work.

So I tried it this morning, it worked seamlessly, then I went out to give it a run.

It certainly feels a bit sharper, H&T downshifts match better, the throttle response seems keener, I'm going to have to go back to SRR to see if my somewhat disappointing 224 bhp recently (past history there when both standard and MP215 suggested 233-235 could be expected) was as a result of a slightly dodgy map from Mountune.

In other news, the shift arrow is back...but not as I knew it.

Before it would continually suggest at low revs that you should get in a higher gear, it was 100% efficiency driven.

Now, it works just like the beep in a Clio 200 or the shift light in the 172. In other words, kick it's fcuking head in.

That's better.

Smiffyboy1990 · Mar 14, 2016

Pulls so well in 3rd!

MarkCup · Mar 14, 2016

For anyone that may be pondering over one of these the last five minutes of this sum up exactly why, after all this time, I still love driving mine so much.

ForceIndia · Mar 14, 2016

The guy with specs in those videos, is beyond annoying. 80's style reviewer.

MarkCup · Mar 14, 2016

ForceIndia said:
The guy with specs in those videos, is beyond annoying. 80's style reviewer.

Get over it. He speaketh the truth.

ForceIndia · Mar 14, 2016

MarkCup said:
Get over it. He speaketh the truth.

Regardless, he's still a twunt.
b*****d child of Quentin Wilson and Lloyd Grossman

Iain C · Mar 14, 2016

I couldn't get past 600 a month tbh. I'm kinda glad I don't have fast cars any more.

DrR · Mar 14, 2016

Dare I say it, I never really liked my ST that much. The ride was just to hard, don't get me wrong on a perfectly smooth road was great. But on anything but it just bounced and skipped all over the place. Some corners I feel more confident in the 1.2 Twingo I'm driving now than i did in my ST.

Daz_RT_04 · Mar 14, 2016

An automatic MINI in the review.. Really? Talk about biased shite.

Also, matey is obsessed with 0-60 and top speeds... And they finally wrap it up by wanking themselves over a MANUAL Fiesta.

Rubbish.

ForceIndia · Mar 14, 2016

His videos are awful. Shows how difficult the job Harris etc do, is. No 208 either?

MarkCup · Mar 15, 2016

ForceIndia said:
Regardless, he's still a twunt.
b*****d child of Quentin Wilson and Lloyd Grossman

True. I can't argue with that.

Matt W · Mar 15, 2016

Holy crap nearly 50k miles on it! Bet you're never out of the car haha

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