Megane Engine

[allman45]

Any 1 know if a megane 2.0T will fit in a clio 182?

 

[W17GLE]

This has been brought up before and i it won't fit i think its something to do with the gearbox

 

[Poopensharten]

Nope, the chassis will not allow it without extensive re-building (IIRC)

Buy a Megane instead and re-map it

 

[Trev_m]

Put a low blow turbo kit on your motor it'll be easier runs on standard internals just bolt on.

 

[allman45]

Put a low blow turbo kit on your motor it'll be easier runs on standard internals just bolt on.

how much are we talking for that? do ktec do it?

 

[DannyR]

£3000 or there abouts, or spend £4000 for the supercharger kit from RStuning who are a lot closer to you and the power output is 240+

 

[theduck]

As above really. £3k for K-tec turbo, or £4k for RSTuning supercharger.

Fitting the Meggy engine in a car it just 'drops' into would cost about as much as the k-tec turbo conversion, so in a 182 it'd be a fortune.

 

[Andyman]

IIRC it fits but the chassis leg needs slightly modding gearbox side?

Quite suprised no ones had a go. Renault modders seem quite tame when it comes to engine conversions. Over on the Ford forum they'll lump owt into a mk3 Escort lol

 

[theduck]

One of them did, got it in but never got it running.

 

[allman45]

just thought it would be more reliable to put the meggy engine in rather than tune the 182 because i think it would just break

 

[Hutchie]

megane internals and bolt on turbo on 182 engine.... :S

iirc the block is only different where gearbox bolts on to allow 6speed box to attach

 

[Mark One]

it's the 6 speed box that won't attach. It's a shame. If I were tackling it, I'd spend time trying to get the 182 5 speed mated to the F4Rt megane engine.

 

[caister]

I think Freds had one sat in the bay before to see if it fits. I'm sure someone on here was looking into getting one fitted. Anything is possible if enough cash is thrown at it.

 

[ashy_gtt]

Any 1 know if a megane 2.0T will fit in a clio 182?

Yes, just use the 5 speed box, no problems.

 

[theduck]

5 speed box doesnt mate though??

 

[Naith]

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[MarcoB]

Id give it a try but the price of meggy engines isnt too inviting.

 

[ashy_gtt]

5 speed box doesnt mate though??

Course it does....

 

[theduck]

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is that your 5?

If so it runs a 172 BE doesnt it?

5 speed box doesnt bolt staight to the Meg bottom end. Dont know if it can be made to fit though?

 

[ashy_gtt]

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is that your 5?

If so it runs a 172 BE doesnt it?

5 speed box doesnt bolt staight to the Meg bottom end. Dont know if it can be made to fit though?

Grey ones mine, white ones a mates.

 

[theduck]

So hows the box mated to the BE? some kind of Adaptor plate??

 

[ashy_gtt]

So hows the box mated to the BE? some kind of Adaptor plate??

Just made an alignment adaptor to mount the box concentrically onto the crank then Matt drilled and tapped the block and bolted it on. Job done

 

[Andyman]

Id give it a try but the price of meggy engines isnt too inviting.

My mate was looking at one last year in the hundreds but no idea of what exactly came with it or what condition etc

No idea what the going price for these are if you can find one

 

[theduck]

Last one I saw for sale was £750. They seem to average around a grand though dependent on history.

 

[davo172]

Apparently theres a few in scotland !!



http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1564764.htm

 

[_WILL_]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-Megane-2-0-Turbo-engine-6-speed-gearbox-R26_W0QQitemZ330414339030QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4cee3ab3d6#ht_500wt_1182

Seems fairly expensive!

I would love to see a clio with a meg engine in. Are the engines pretty similar in size and weight?

 

[_WILL_]

Going to bring this thread back up again. I was wondering if anyone could shed some more light on the feasibility of fitting a meg engine to a clio? From reading this thread it needs some work doing on the chassis leg. I would wanna retain the megs box really.

Also what sort of power to tuned megs make?
How serious is the modification needed to make the power?
How feasible would it to keep the whole front end of the meg, obviously with a few mods, If I got the front end from an r26 or something, would come with lsd and the trick steering geometry thing that reduces the torque steer? (pretty sure you get it on r26's)

Any info would be great as I am considering something like this as a future project. Possibly over the winter months!

 

[theduck]

Anything can be done with enough money, your idea would need lots of it. IMO better off spending it on something else. Supercharge + coilovers for example

 

[_WILL_]

Anything can be done with enough money, your idea would need lots of it. IMO better off spending it on something else. Supercharge + coilovers for example

Yeah, it would be the easier/better option I'm sure. But if everyone did the easy option then it could be very dull, I would prob buy a cheap clio to do the work on and keep my current one to use. Then at least if things stop or money is low I am not left without the cup (would miss it to much )

I would hope to do a lot of the work myself (although would need help with the electrical stuff) I am reasonably good at welding and have friends who can get things machined etc.. if necessary.

Was looking at tuning options and 300hp sounds pretty easily achieveable from a meg engine. not sure how good thse guys are tho!

http://www.backdraftmotorsport.com/shop-renault-r26r/bdm-r26r-hybrid-turbo-upgrade/flypage.tpl.html

Can you imagine a 300hp clio, would keep it looking pretty standard as well, sleeper :sleepy: !!!

 

[theduck]

300bhp clio would be immense, I just dont think the full meggy front end sounds like a sensible way to go. Sure use the engine, but not the suspension, and probably not the gearbox either.

 

[_WILL_]

Yeah, tbh I have never really looked at a meg up close (yet i am considering using one for an engine swap !!!!!!!), only ever sat in a few.

The gearbox does seem to be a problem and unfortunately it would be hard to tell how difficult it would be until I drop it in the bay!!! Plus I think it would be important as 300 horses plus whatever torque it produes will rip a standard clio box to shreds :dead:

The running gear was a bit of a whim, just to see what people thought. Would like to keep the lsd if possible.

 

[theduck]

Scoff runs a VAG gearbox on his 500+bhp 172 engined Renault5, so that could be worth a look. Also worth speaking to Fred as he was doing this at one point.

 

[_WILL_]

Scoff runs a VAG gearbox on his 500+bhp 172 engined Renault5, so that could be worth a look. Also worth speaking to Fred as he was doing this at one point.

The VAG boxes have a rep for being pretty strong so that is a good shout. When the summer is drawing to a close and I am getting a bit more serious about starting a project (whatever it ends up being) I will have a chat with Fred. The cup will be due its service sometime soon, so I will go see Fred and have a chat. Or if its going to be to much I might buy a caterham kit and build that instead!!!!

 

[DMS]

Can you imagine a 300hp clio, would keep it looking pretty standard as well, sleeper :sleepy: !!!

Yes, I can. I have one (although not quite 300bhp yet).
Contrary to popular opinion, it doesn't destroy gearboxes either. I don't know where people get that ridiculous idea from TBH.

 

[Andyman]

IMO folk have totally over estimated just how difficult sticking one of these engines into a Clio would be. IIRC the box only grazes the chassis leg?

Theres folk on the Ford forums hacking FWD cars to death and sticking all sorts of clobber under the hood or in the boot lol


Id guess the main issue with the Meggy / Clio conversion would be weight, plus being worth it with big power conversion being available off the shelf.

 

[Hutchie]

but can you imagine the awesome 6th gear motorway cruising.

anyone got a 2.0t engine package lying around??

 

[_WILL_]

but can you imagine the awesome 6th gear motorway cruising.

anyone got a 2.0t engine package lying around??

6th gear would be great. I plan on doing an engine conversion at least once in my life, so why not this. It will be a steep learning curve, but I don't mind a challenge. Its different as well.

It will be a while before I am in a position to start anything like this, October/December time probably, so there is plenty of time to research and plan.

With regards to the clio gearbox I am only going by what people have said on here. Do you think they will cope with the sort of power a tuned meg engine will put out? Plus I want the 6th gear!

Weight wise, I didn't think they would be too much heavier than a clio engine with a turbo/sc conversion.

The bit I am confused about as I don't know that much about them is, would you wanna keep the meg's ECU or would it be better to get an after market one of some sort? As I have said before I am not that great with the electronic side of things, but am willing to learn.

 

[sideways danny]

IMO folk have totally over estimated just how difficult sticking one of these engines into a Clio would be. IIRC the box only grazes the chassis leg?

Theres folk on the Ford forums hacking FWD cars to death and sticking all sorts of clobber under the hood or in the boot lol


Id guess the main issue with the Meggy / Clio conversion would be weight, plus being worth it with big power conversion being available off the shelf.

Not many people will let anyone cut and re-section their chassis leg to clear the box though......christ, people still have a s**t-fit if you remove the slam panel or fit the wrong badge even

 

[Hutchie]

i cut my subframe up as it fowled my exhaust

 

[sideways danny]

pah, I flared my mates arches with a massive hammer in a carpark on the way to germany because it had started to rub on big motorway bumps with all the extra stuff in the car