MY CLIO 197 ONLY WORTH £10,200?!?!?!?

[tjhmortimer]

Jesus!!! I bought my 197 in August for £14,000. Ive just had it valued at £10,200!! I cant f**king believe it. I was looking to swap it for something larger, as since I bought it I have set up my own business and need something more practical! Looks like i'll be keeping it then!

Anyone else suffered this way recently??

 

[Maz]

Is that trade in ?

 

[kiza1986]

Happens with all new cars iirc... some drop more eratically than others

 

[Hazza]

Sell it private, get much more than £10,200 for it

 

[Maz]

I bought my 6 month old 182 for that price 2 years ago, think they were around £14/15k brand new too wern't they ?

 

[Daniel]

'Had it valued' ??

By who? Some two bit salesman monkey in a dealership no doubt. if its got spec then you'll sell it for 13k in the autotrader.

 

[DrR]

Is this another stupid person who's gone to a dealer and expected them to buy it from them at market value? Thus meaning the dealer will make no money on selling it whatsoever?

 

[Daniel]

Is this another stupid person who's gone to a dealer and expected them to buy it from them at market value? Thus meaning the dealer will make no money on selling it whatsoever?

I like you. :cheers:

 

[tjhmortimer]

Is this another stupid person who's gone to a dealer and expected them to buy it from them at market value? Thus meaning the dealer will make no money on selling it whatsoever?

No!! I bought it at £14000 and was expecting to get around £12500 for it!! It has climate control, cornering lamps, tinted rear windows and 6 disc cabasse stereo!! Is that really unrealistic expecting 12500 for it?? I dont thinks so!! Both Renault Manchester and Renault Oldahm have offered £10200!!

 

[DrR]

I'd say thats a fair price for a dealer to offer as they'd probably sell it for £13kish. You cleary are one of those people if you took it to 2 dealers, (no offence) best bet is to look what prices they are private.

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

Yes but every Renault dealer in Manchester are cvnts. That's your problem. Sell it privately.

 

[Hollister]

Yes but every Renault dealer in Manchester are cvnts. That's your problem. Sell it privately.

Yeah, they must be evil and s**t if they want to actually try and make some money!!

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

No, they are actually cvnts, besides wanting to make money.

 

[Brown.]

lol ^^

 

[jon_r]

Is this another stupid person who's gone to a dealer and expected them to buy it from them at market value? Thus meaning the dealer will make no money on selling it whatsoever?

No!! I bought it at £14000 and was expecting to get around £12500 for it!! It has climate control, cornering lamps, tinted rear windows and 6 disc cabasse stereo!! Is that really unrealistic expecting 12500 for it?? I dont thinks so!! Both Renault Manchester and Renault Oldahm have offered £10200!!

I've said this before on this forum however;

A dealer has to make a profit. They will put £1500 accross your car minimum to cover paperwork, salaries, rent, overheads etc etc.

Yes your car is worth more than £10200, £11,700 approx tbh - but you aren't ever going to get a garage to offer you full list value.

You also need to consider that new 197's can be had for £14k ish, not list price. Another reason for the low value.

You may find you are offered more for your car if you trade it in against something with a greater value, as the dealership is making the money on that car as well and they can afford to loose a bit on your part exchange.

If you want top dollar for your car sell privatly.

 

[Ad]

problem you have is that new 197 R27s are 14k brand new.

Retail I reckon its worth 12-12.5k max on a forecourt. Also renault oldham and manchester are the same group so no surprises the price is the same.

 

[Dan R]

Jesus!!! I bought my 197 in August for £14,000. Ive just had it valued at £10,200!! I cant f**king believe it. I was looking to swap it for something larger, as since I bought it I have set up my own business and need something more practical! Looks like i'll be keeping it then!

Anyone else suffered this way recently??

Sounds about right yeah. thats what id expect on a new car. i mean look at the prices of the r26's. you can buy them for not much more than 12k

 

[Ad]

^ not for an R26 mate.

 

[Dan R]

^ not for an R26 mate.

sorry i meant not much more than 13k not 12. sorry.

Ive seen one for 13250! you can buy them new for 16750! theres one on the trader on an 07 plate with 5k on it for 14750!

 

[Ad]

still sounds cheap for an R26.. Sure its not the earlier F1team edition?

 

[brisa4984]

yep..

can have them for 14K new..

as s**t as it is. 10K trade price is about right cos theyll put it up for 12k or so.

 

[cupholder]

whack it in the trader and see what happens your always gonna get less for it at a dealer they have overheads and profit to worry about
its the same for any cars m8 if i had traded in my mk2 gte they would of given me £250 for it i sold it for nearly £2,000 to a friend and he has now sold it for not much less after a year of ownership sell it private

 

[Daniel]

So if they give you 12500 for it, by the time they put their mark up on it, (has to be 1500 minimum!) then their going to be trying to sell a second hand car for 14k that was bought 3 months earlier.......for 14k!!

£10,200 is a fair price tbh mate.

 

[ja.jack]

I'll give him a fiver for it.

 

[edde]

No!! I bought it at £14000 and was expecting to get around £12500 for it!! It has climate control, cornering lamps, tinted rear windows and 6 disc cabasse stereo!! Is that really unrealistic expecting 12500 for it?? I dont thinks so!! Both Renault Manchester and Renault Oldahm have offered £10200!!

You can brand spaners for £13k so asking £500 less for a user car? Ok so you have a few other bits but that means not much.

Sounds quite reasonable buy somehting with a big profit margin and they'll give you more. Its all down to what else your buying etc.

 

[dunster]

I was in the stealership today for a new tyre and they had an R27 in the showroom. It looked awesome in black with the decals, anthracite wheels and the Recaros so I decided to see how much it would be to trade my Albi Blue 197 in for it. Bought in May, 3500 miles, was offered £10,500 for it.
The guy didn't know what he was talking about though, I had to point out I couldn't have the Recaro's because of the amplifier for my Cabasse system being under the driver's seat. He didn't seem to be aware of the R27 having the cup chassis either.
So in the end, I'd rather spend the £4,000 difference on some H&R coilovers, KTR exhaust, remap and some 18" Turinis!

 

[edde]

The guy didn't know what he was talking about though, I had to point out I couldn't have the Recaro's because of the amplifier for my Cabasse system being under the driver's seat. He didn't seem to be aware of the R27 having the cup chassis either.

It does't have the Cup suspenion though the cup is the later car the R27 has the R27 suspension setup

 

[dunster]

The guy didn't know what he was talking about though, I had to point out I couldn't have the Recaro's because of the amplifier for my Cabasse system being under the driver's seat. He didn't seem to be aware of the R27 having the cup chassis either.

It does't have the Cup suspenion though the cup is the later car the R27 has the R27 suspension setup

I was under the impression that the Cup would be getting the R27 suspension and it would become an option for the standard 197 as a cup pack, much like the 182. Would that not classify it as the cup suspension??

 

[lasbazrre]

Resale value on cars is shocking across the board, and Renaults more than most coz of the amount they sell and the deals to be had!

Sell on the Autotrader for maximum money, or trade it in and barter like fook on the new car!

leon

 

[nth]

Renault Clio Renaultsport (06 on)

2.0 16V (197bhp) 3d 2006/56

Average mileage 10,000 miles


Original Price £15,947
Franchised Dealer £12,670
Independent Dealer £11,680
Private Good £10,690
Private Poor £8,615
Part Exchange £9,800

 

[edde]

I was under the impression that the Cup would be getting the R27 suspension and it would become an option for the standard 197 as a cup pack, much like the 182. Would that not classify it as the cup suspension??

Yep but officaly the R27 isn't the cup setup. When the car came out it was the R27 setup not the cup setup. I belive the new cup and cup setups are supposed to be the same Im not convinced they will be.

 

[philis]

could be worse
i read in the paper the other day that certain models of the ford focus will be expected to loose 50% of its value within its first year.
thats bad

 

[edde]

could be worse
i read in the paper the other day that certain models of the ford focus will be expected to loose 50% of its value within its first year.
thats bad

Few will pay list price though there heavily discounted.

 

[Tim(e)]

Original Price £15,947
Franchised Dealer £12,670
Independent Dealer £11,680
Private Good £10,690
Private Poor £8,615
Part Exchange £9,800

This certainly ain't correct - are you saying that a dealer wil give you more money than a private sale will?

No....

 

[martynh]

No, if you were to buy it from a dealer then you pay about 12,670K, if you're buying privately then you should look to pay £10,690K.

 

[richlawson]

Is this another stupid person who's gone to a dealer and expected them to buy it from them at market value? Thus meaning the dealer will make no money on selling it whatsoever?

No!! I bought it at £14000 and was expecting to get around £12500 for it!! It has climate control, cornering lamps, tinted rear windows and 6 disc cabasse stereo!! Is that really unrealistic expecting 12500 for it?? I dont thinks so!! Both Renault Manchester and Renault Oldahm have offered £10200!!

its french so money will drop fast mate

 

[mr_merc]

Perhaps it's just me but...

You bought a new car (a Renault at that) that isn't a limited edition (and even if it was, knowing Renault they'd lose sight of what "limited" means), when there are plenty about, for £14k, nearly full price, you've been offered £10k for it from a Dealer, who is in a market to make money...

I don't mean to state the f* obvious here, but what exactly were you expecting?

As I say, perhaps it's just me.

 

[black kro]

dealers!

I was offered 600 for a car I sold in 2 hours on the trader for 1400 !

I'd say 12K easy on www.autotrader.co.uk or pistonheads

 

[Timmay]

privately ftw!

 

[R20 CWH]

I'll give him a fiver for it.

deal.