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Novice Saxo VTS Track car - Donny style



  172 Cup
Glad this has stayed on here for us to keep tabs on it.

VTS's are fooking epic little cars...i miss mine soo bad!! Very capable things in the right hands and a mountain of fun too!
 
  Disastra Coupe
The Apex kit as mentioned by Alex does come highly rated, i've not experienced it myself but no end of people give it praise for value. Obviously you won't beat Bilsteins but as you said, money is an issue. It's something worth considering if you feel you need to upgrade it. Don't forget a lower brace. Did wonders for mine :)
 
  120d M Sport
New clips ordered right at the start chief - should be here today :)

I see what you are saying about suspension - but do remember that a) the car has not turned a wheel on track yet and b) the budget.

I have no idea how it handles in its current form, so the first outing will be proving ground. If its cack, then its cack and I have something to save for - but I could through £££'s at it and not notice a difference or even think it needs doing - we'll see. Your experience and knowledge is good to know and I've noted your comments about the springs - so its appreciated.

In terms of the rear, once I've stripped a few bits tomorrow I'll re-assess the lowz. No point doing anything other than prep'ing it to be safe and fun in its current guise. Again, if it needs to come up, it'll be on the list to do after the first run, but I'm currently debating a bit of tuition as I'm sh*t at driving on the road never mind a track.

No probs boss, only suggested the apex as it's a cheap but suprisinly effective solution! Half the price of a set of bilstein dampers alone.

Best thing about these is you don't have to spend a fortune to make them a seriously competent car.
 
  Peugeot 106 GTi
Wow! That breather is horrendous!

Marco was telling me about it the other day, when me and Lise split, the car had a decentish pipercross filter on, then when I bought it from her a few months later it had this filter on. No idea what happened to the pipercross, but had I noticed the wire wool, it would have been sorted asap!

I can remember the local mot place saying they had done something to the arches to hold them on a bit better when it went down, that must be the zip tie.

I can back up what Matt says though, this car is a beaut, over the 3ish years my ex had it, nothing ever went wrong, I only had to carry out routine maintainence stuff, I'm glad it treat him well, and hopefully should treat you well too! I still miss it a lot.

I did lift the beam a bit (believe it or not) it used to be even lower than that.

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At FCS 2010, with my GTi behind, spend two days on it with the DA polishing it up before driving it there :p

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Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Lolz at the comments on here - especially Marvv trying to blame the wire wool on his ex.

Minor update to the budget track saxo today.

Bad Stuff:
No locking key for the wheels - hopefully Mr Matthew will come through on that one to save me wasting a socket.
The VT bodykit is a complete joke and I have no idea how it stays on any saxo for more than a month.

Stuff complete:
Headlight - ordered on from the bay for £20 and although its not an exact match, it isn't broken. Fitted and tested, happy days.


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The retardo bodykit has been secured - not brilliant on the front near side arch but miles better.

Wire wool replacement installed

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Helmet has arrived, trial fitting was a success... removed the pumpy decals though.

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Majority of the rear interior (and front door cards, speakers) and sound proofing + grill removed...

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Suprising how much weight has actually come out! The rear has risen a bit, which I'm happy about and the car feels more nible without half the interior.

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Also had he alignment checked (for free! Budget build FTW) as there wasn't much to adjust - albeit the steering wheel is off, it can remain so.

So I'm waiting on a text from Matt about the locking key and then I have the final bits to do, which are waiting in the car atm.
- Discs and pads
- 5.1 fluid
- Engine oil & Filter
- Maybe a bit more weight removal (its addictive)

So far the 'build' if you can call it that, is £130 + the cost of the motor and excluding my helmet.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Forgot to add...

- Checked coolant level. I had topped it up and after a bit of running around today it has remained at the same point. Win.
- Checked zorst. Thought it was knocking, but it isn't. Seems to be hung pretty well, rubbers have not perished. Win.
- Removed spare wheel. Totally forgot it had one, its hung underneath. Used the grinder on the cage (first time I've used a grinder in 4 years).
 
  330i. E30 Touring.
Lol at the wire wool. TBH though, it will have done the job fine. It's only a breather. I've seen worse from cars more reputable specialists have worked with.

I <3 grinderz. SRSly, i'm surgical with them now.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Lol at the wire wool. TBH though, it will have done the job fine. It's only a breather. I've seen worse from cars more reputable specialists have worked with.

I <3 grinderz. SRSly, i'm surgical with them now.

I know bud, I was just going to leave the pipe exposed. Those breathers are a load of sh*t really, but for £3.99.....

Matt has just text after finding the locking key - socket saved. Yaye.
 

len_beach

ClioSport Club Member
  E92 M3,172 track car
Looks budget as fook. Impressed with what you've done in a day.

Im going to get some weight out of the Bullett today all being well.
 
  1.6 Focus, 1.6 122S
I've got a BMC CDA for a VTS for sale if you interested. All thats left of my Track Saxo :(
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
The car is now ready - after this update :)
I've been working a bit on it each night after work.

First up where new NON-performance discs and pads on the front. Matt complained the pedal was hard and he was right, although this appears to be a standard trait of the saxo's, I saw that the discs were pretty bad, but the pads almost new. For £50 I replaced them both with Mintex jobbers.

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Then I thought I'd try my hand at installing some 5.1 brake fluid. Had to get the old man to explain what needed to happen and I've learnt that I can now bleed brakes. Learn something new everyday.

J20 bleed bottle FTW.

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Slight issue with one of the rear nipples though - I snapped it, whoops. This was tightening it back up, so I hope I don't have to bleed them again.

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I was pondering changing the plugs and gear oil, but to be honest, I think they're ok. Plugs are a year old and the gearbox seems fine. So just dropped the oil and a new oil filter.

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er... but I forgot that its a 1.6 and was a bit hasty with the oil. Put the entire 5litre bottle in and then thought.... thats gotta be far too much for this little thing. I was right. FFS...

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Had to drain a good 1.5 litres or so. But put it back in the bottle so the budget isn't shattered.

That was it for a day or so and then Len decided to sell the Cobra's he'd bought for a failed 206 project.
2 seats and 2 harnesses for under £130 - couldn't say no, even though they are classed as the hardest seats EVER.

A bit grubby:

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Still had my sisters carpet cleaners so set about cleaning one of them.

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Nice. That was after just doing the sides! The final bucket was black, no word of a lie. There are some scrubbers about, who obviously don't wash at all.


The finished article. Not bad.

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So I then set about getting a least one subframe for it and some eye bolts for the harnesses. Now, I'm not afraid to admit that Google and Sax-p played a large part. People have done pretty much everything to Saxo's and just by googling Saxo seat bolt size, the top searches produce accurate answers! its such a piece of pi$$ to find answers to anything with these cars.

So I went to Larkspeed - who are still going. They are still in the same place in Leeds too. I remember going there when I was a 14 year old and tugging myself silly over some TSW venom's they had on show. Anyway, they had some harness eye bolts on the cheap and that was that. They bolted straight into the existing seatbelt holes. WIN.

The subframe was not as straightforward and after ebay searching and discussing potential purchases with 17 year olds on sax-p, I decided I was prepared to spend a bit of money on a couple of goodies I'd fancied for a while.
Demon tweeks had a subframe for £99 - slidey too - and I bought an OMP Trecendo suede wheel and boss kit whilst I was at it. Delivered next day, can't complain.

Fitted them both and we're ready.

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I'm not doing anything else until its been on track now.
Would like to refresh the gear linkage's, but it'll have to wait.
 
  120d M Sport
Just for future ref, 3 litres is all you need for these!! Think the official sump capacity is like 3.2L.

So if you buy a 5l can and a 1l can that will do you for 2 oil changes. One thing I definetely do miss!

Any questions on stuff like this drop me a PM.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
I'm delighted to announce that the little saxo was on form. To, on and from the track it was flawless. It is also suprisingly easy to drive and very planted. The non-performance brakes could only cope with 7 or 8 lap stints at full tilt, but nothing much more to complain about.

A quick pic, but will upload a few more later (some serious machinery was there).

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Rob

ClioSport Moderator
Looks awesome, really nice progress too.

Get that grille back in though, please?

It looks purposeful with everything you've done, then it looks like some chav stole the grille and you can't afford to put it back.
 

welshname

ClioSport Club Member
Looks great on track there. But as I've said previous and as Rob just said, please put the grill back, it makes it look like an old banger when really it's a pretty clean car.

Can't wait to see a proper write up about your track time.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Looks ace mate!!

Gutted I couldn't make it today, had too many things to do around the house :(

Propper jealous Phill.

No probs boss. A couple turned up at dinner and we had a mate come along to assist (even my old man turned up).

No need for jealousy my old fruit. I hear you're hunting for another RB. Now that is enviable - RB > BG.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
Looks great on track there. But as I've said previous and as Rob just said, please put the grill back, it makes it look like an old banger when really it's a pretty clean car.

Can't wait to see a proper write up about your track time.

I know, I heard ya first time and was genuinely going to do as you suggested. Just ran out of time before its first event. But it'll be back for the next outing.

Will do a write up in a bit - plenty of things happened including a Porsche that spun and hit a fence on its first lap :S - how can you crash at Elvington!
 
No probs boss. A couple turned up at dinner and we had a mate come along to assist (even my old man turned up).

No need for jealousy my old fruit. I hear you're hunting for another RB. Now that is enviable - RB > BG.

Sounds like a good day!

I was, but couldn't find a good one when I really wanted one, spur of the moment type of thing.

Still looking but might have convinced Sarah to let me get a soft-top for summer ;)
 
  Alien Green 200
This makes me miss my old VTS. Been looking at them again recently but having nowhere to store another car is a pain.

Got a pair of GTi-6 calipers in the garage if you fancy a 283mm conversion at some point Phillus.
 

len_beach

ClioSport Club Member
  E92 M3,172 track car
This makes me miss my old VTS. Been looking at them again recently but having nowhere to store another car is a pain.

Got a pair of GTi-6 calipers in the garage if you fancy a 283mm conversion at some point Phillus.

Ssshhhhh. I'm trying to tempt him with my Brembos and Quiche Lorraine pads but he's having none of it.
 

Donny_Dog

ClioSport Club Member
  Jim's rejects
This makes me miss my old VTS. Been looking at them again recently but having nowhere to store another car is a pain.

Got a pair of GTi-6 calipers in the garage if you fancy a 283mm conversion at some point Phillus.

Tell me more saxotim
 


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