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[PC/XB360/PS3] The Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim



Hixle

Hi Kiss Luke E****
ClioSport Club Member
  E90 M3
Lol at this game. Thought I left it on pause while I went and watched this is england...turns out I didn't. Surrounded by 3 dead guards, two people cowering in the corner of a shop and Lydia not speaking to me. Christ knows what went on, lol.
 
Even if you leave it paused, it's not paused. The game action stops but the clock keeps ticking, making a mockery of your play time stats. True story.
 
Has anyone else suffered from the bug/glitch after the third quest 'Loud and Clear' as part of the Theives Guild? Once it comes up that you have completed 'Loud and Clear' it does not then prompt a starter for the following mission 'Dampened Spirits'. Therefore, I am unable to continue with any of the Theives Guild quests which is very disappointing as it is one of the last series of quests I have left to complete.

Two explanations are given online. The first states that when speaking to Brynjolf at the end of 'Loud and Clear' if you pick one of the two options during the conversation as opposed to the other, it will not prompt the start of the 'Dampened Spirits' quest. The second explanation is that once you have been told to speak to Maven Black-Briar shortly after being given the quest, the quest will bug out and you will not be able to continue with the Thieves' Guild quest line.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Not that specific quest but the final mission for the thieves quest broke on me. I was left stuck in a room with no way out. In the end I had to forcibly end the quest through the console.
 
JFC I did some triple-hard quests yesterday. Collecting Potema's remains being one of them. Got 43,000 Gold now but only a trifling level 26. I'm pretty handy though TBH. Got the Large Pockets perk which is awesome if you like to carry the whole world around with you for selling. Especially handy when slaying dragons and collecting the rather valuable (and rather heavy) bones and scales. Also served my first giant. Piece of piss.
 
I think that'll be my task for tonight RM, I need to slay some giants

Level 38 now, full daedric armour, the mace of Fuckard The Merciless, bring it on!
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
JFC I did some triple-hard quests yesterday. Collecting Potema's remains being one of them. Got 43,000 Gold now but only a trifling level 26. I'm pretty handy though TBH. Got the Large Pockets perk which is awesome if you like to carry the whole world around with you for selling. Especially handy when slaying dragons and collecting the rather valuable (and rather heavy) bones and scales. Also served my first giant. Piece of piss.

Large Pockets perk combined with the Steed Stone means you can pretty much carry everything. Armour is weightless, too.

I'm on the last Dark Brotherhood quest. Still haven't done Alduin's Wall main quest yet, basically because I've got the two followers for that one still with me.

So I'm currently rocking a mini army with Marcurio, Delphine, Esbern and Shadowmere the immortal horse. I can also conjure a Dark Brotherhood assassin, atronach's and Dremora's with Sanguine's Rose. Might go and get that immortal dog Barbas.

LOL.
 
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  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
Skyrim's DLC add-ons will "have a lot of meat on them", Bethesda has said.

It will focus on "ways to make the game better, not just have more, because the game is so big," game director Todd Howard told Joystiq at the Spike Video Game Awards.

"So we're going through ideas right now, and processing everything people are doing in the game, and trying to think of ways that we can improve it."
The first two downloadable add-ons will be exclusive to the Xbox 360 for 30 days after release.

After that exclusivity window the DLC is free to go live on PC and PlayStation Network.

Release dates and details remain unannounced. Howard said they "don't have a timetable". "They won't be quick, and they'll have a lot of meat on them," he continued.

Howard has previously said Skyrim will have fewer DLC add-ons than Fallout 3 had, but they will be "more substantial". Howard wants them "to be closer to an expansion pack feel".

:cool:
 
Where do I find this steed stone? I think I've run out of usefulness for the warrior stone, heavy armor is 100, one handed is 100, block is 90 odd
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
I think once I've done the Dark Brotherhood quests I need to find the Wabbajack.

Then make some Dragon Armour to sell (I have over 50 bones and scales doing nothing). I've currently got 60k but fancy getting the Achievement for 100k.
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
Is it worth getting this for crimboski?

Or would it be swammped by any new games coming out..?

Definitely. But it's a game time sapper and it's difficult to switch between games as you can lose focus. Since Skyrim has gone into the 360, I've played nothing else.
 
  53 Clio's & counting
In fact, Skyrim could easily take over your entire life - Try not to run around in the street with a sword showting FOOOOOOSSS!!!! at people though - might get you into trouble
 
  Octy VRS
Awesome. 30 days to wait is no big deal either. I doubt I'll even be halfway through the main game.

Just got to the heady heights of level 10 lol. Got some good dual casting going on and finally worked out how to disenchant mage robes to then enchant armour. Also just worked out how to recharge enchanted weapons...

Just discovered some tower down south west where a bird wants to kill her witch mother. Encountered a couple of Hagravens which were interesting. Liking the firebreath shout though.
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
Awesome. 30 days to wait is no big deal either. I doubt I'll even be halfway through the main game.

Just got to the heady heights of level 10 lol. Got some good dual casting going on and finally worked out how to disenchant mage robes to then enchant armour. Also just worked out how to recharge enchanted weapons...

Just discovered some tower down south west where a bird wants to kill her witch mother. Encountered a couple of Hagravens which were interesting. Liking the firebreath shout though.

Yeah I think I'm still on the first word of that shout. All 3 words is apparently much better, as you can imagine.
 
  MK4 Anni & MK5 Edt30
I'm stopping in Saturday with a crate. Going to play this for at least 6 hours. Not managed to play it for over a week now, been too busy :(
 
The firebreath shout isn't much good even with all three unlocked. I use it occasionally when there's lots of enemies bunched together but it doesn't take much health off. Perhaps if you get it early on when you're fighting softer enemies?

To be honest of all the ones I have I still find FOOS the most useful. Disarm only works against the very weakest enemies, marked for death doesn't seem to have a huge effect, the fire and ice ones do little damage and take an age to recharge and while Storm Call is very good it has a recharge time of about 10 minutes. So basically FOOS is the way forward.
 
  Octy VRS
Kill a chicken in Riverwood.

Seriously, follow the main quest for a bit to get some cash and weapons. Choose wisely what you want to specialise in.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Kill a chicken in Riverwood.

Seriously, follow the main quest for a bit to get some cash and weapons. Choose wisely what you want to specialise in.

Does that really matter though?

I think if there's one aspect of the player's abilities throughout the Skyrim game, is that it becomes quite arbitrary as to what you wanted 'to be' at the start of game - compared to what you end up as.

I wish Skyrim forced you to pick a more specific path and become an uber-elite archer or an epoch-rated mage - rather than being a one man-army of 20+ traits. Ultimately, it would be like playing FIFA or PES with players that have 100 rating on stamina, speed, skill, passing, etc - it all becomes a bit meaningless and a bit 'meh'. The majority of RPGs funnel you down a route of skills sets, to which you cannot then change your decision at a later date. If it's one you don't like, you need a different character. Failing that, you learn and adapt to what your character is good at and develop it on from there. Tuning and honing the skills at your disposal to the very best that they can be, is a much more rewarding experience, imo.

Even now - and as much as I try to plug enemies with arrows at anyone given time - there would be nothing in Skyrim to stop me switching to two-handed weapons and becoming god-like with those. All those hours of sticking with the bow - the sneaking around, the long-distance aiming, using the different types of ammo - has suddenly become a state of "been there, done that". Worse, is that my character would then have a brilliant archery skill and a superb two-handed one as well.

Skyrim doesn't help in the way it increases your skills without any involvement from yourself. Don't even attempt to block an incoming strike? No worries, you'll probably end up with an increase in light armour or heavy armour regardless. Want to attempt to break into a chest? Oh dear, I've broke three lockpicks, but my lockpick skill has increased anyway.

It's a common failing in Bethesda games in my opinion - and one that ultimately made my Fallout 3 experience run out of steam around the 70 hours mark. I would much, much, much prefer to select say two core skills and three secondary skills at the start of the game, and then progress through with them - rather than being able to learn and develop everything all on one character. You should still be in a position to learn additional skills or traits however, if you so wish. But if they are outside of your five choices, then they should take much more effort and time to progress even slightly with them.

That said, it's still an epic game, mind. :)

D.
 
  2007 Ford Focus
Does that really matter though?
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That said, it's still an epic game, mind. :)

D.
I disagree. Mainly due to the length of the game, I'm already 60+ hours in and nowhere near finishing the game off. I don't have time to go back to play through as a specific character type (mage, warrior, sneak etc) I appreciate being able to be a thief, but not just a thief: a thief that can enchant and smith, a bit of conjuration and destruction as well as the usual sneaky stuff. But by no means am I accomplished in everything. I'm level 43 and only have high level skill in less than half of what is available.
I'd find it incredibly frustrating if I was forced to stick strictly to one class, I don't think I would have go to 60 hours if so.

By the way, playing on the 360 version :)
 
  Evo 5 RS
It's nt compulsory to stick with a certain set of skills but it's definitely neater. My character is basically a thief that's handy with a bow and stealth attacks. So perfect to jump into the dark brotherhood after I'm done with the thieves guild.
Bit pants for a thief to also be a master in spells and magic too... Boy George thief.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I disagree. Mainly due to the length of the game, I'm already 60+ hours in and nowhere near finishing the game off. I don't have time to go back to play through as a specific character type (mage, warrior, sneak etc) I appreciate being able to be a thief, but not just a thief: a thief that can enchant and smith, a bit of conjuration and destruction as well as the usual sneaky stuff. But by no means am I accomplished in everything. I'm level 43 and only have high level skill in less than half of what is available.
I'd find it incredibly frustrating if I was forced to stick strictly to one class, I don't think I would have go to 60 hours if so.

By the way, playing on the 360 version :)

You're wrong though.

And I'll tell you at work on Monday that you're wrong again! :rasp:

D.
 
  Octy VRS
I just meant if you are a mage it's most probably better to concentrate on magic, a warrior, heavier weapons, thief, small blades etc. I've concentrated on destruction and conjuration. I'm trying a bit of a mix so I'm also getting handy with a bow. That way I have a decent set of skills that I can use in close combat or from a distance. Also levelling sneak and speech. I'm trying to concentrate on these key perks. Maybe if I play through again I'll try more of a weapon orientated character.
 
  Goliath I
I'm one of the elves specialising in magic and archery, although I'm at level 20 and thinking maybe I should have chosen a more hand to hand combat
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I just meant if you are a mage it's most probably better to concentrate on magic, a warrior, heavier weapons, thief, small blades etc. I've concentrated on destruction and conjuration. I'm trying a bit of a mix so I'm also getting handy with a bow. That way I have a decent set of skills that I can use in close combat or from a distance. Also levelling sneak and speech. I'm trying to concentrate on these key perks. Maybe if I play through again I'll try more of a weapon orientated character.

I entirely agree - and that's what I'm getting at. But Skyrim makes it almost impossible for you to do that. You class them as 'key perks' at that's exactly what they should be - the foundation of skill sets that makes up your character. But nothing would stop your character right now, right this very minute changing everything about what he/she is. You could ignore destruction and conjuration. You could sell all your bows and never fire another arrow. You might never go in sneak mode ever again and instead make your character some two-handed badass who has super-high smithing skills and alchemy to boot - to name but three abilities.

A lot of people might see that as a good thing, but I think it just waters-down your character development as a whole. It's unlikely that people will put 100 hours into Skyrim and then look back and say "I completed that with a character who was exceptional at archery, a conjuration mage on the side and with a bit of alchemy thrown in." Instead, it's more likely to be "I finished Skyrim with a Nord, who had maximum two-handed, topped out heavy armour, not bad archery, brilliant smithing, great alchemy, whoop-ass enchanting, exceptional picklocking, world destroying destruction magic, awesome illusion skills and my sneaking was getting there too". Really.

It just all gets meaningless.

D.
 


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