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Battlefield 4



Aaron..

ClioSport Club Member
I wish I could get back into it. I don't get why it doesn't pull me in like the earlier BF titles did?

I never played the very early ones, but i imagine they never had 300 weapons to unlock, plus 700 attachments and paint jobs for each one. This is what pisses me off with the newer games. Just too much to unlock.

Want a decent weapon? Well, you need to unlock 20 mediocre guns before you get to it.
Want a decent sight? Just shoot 500 enemies and you will get it.
I know you can buy short cuts to unlock the weapons (they don't unlock the accessories for them) but it's just too much s**t.

I picked the game up again last week but couldn't get into it. Didn't even know the map it spawned me on.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I never played the very early ones, but i imagine they never had 300 weapons to unlock, plus 700 attachments and paint jobs for each one. This is what pisses me off with the newer games. Just too much to unlock.

Want a decent weapon? Well, you need to unlock 20 mediocre guns before you get to it.
Want a decent sight? Just shoot 500 enemies and you will get it.
I know you can buy short cuts to unlock the weapons (they don't unlock the accessories for them) but it's just too much s**t.

I picked the game up again last week but couldn't get into it. Didn't even know the map it spawned me on.

I'm beginning to sound like an old man on repeat about how things "back in th' day" were so much better in BF. :wink:

BF2 really got the limited kit choices nailed down right - the DAO shotgun for example - took the anti-tank class a while to unlock. Also, they had more class types than the usual four of today - meaning you had to carefully pick the type of role contribution you wanted for the team. Even better (for me anyway) - the kit was class restricted to the type of kit you spawned with - although you could easily pick up a dead soldier's kit whilst on the field. This meant that although you were carrying the most powerful anti-launcher around which made you lethal to vehicles - your secondary weapon was fairly weak. And you were weak to opposing players as a consequence. None of this Rambo stuff of today where you cherry-pick your mods and kit to the nth degree. And skins. And helmets. And shitloads of other superfluous crap that has little meaning.

BF2142 improved it more. The tree structure existed of Commander -> Squad Leader -> Squad Team -> individual players. To encourage squad play, squad bonuses were awarded for carrying out the commander's requests and in turn, the squad leader's acceptance of them. This had been in BF2 prior, but the addition of the brilliant commo rose interface just made spotting, order taking, order issuing, etc - a whole lot easier. Kits started to develop - although fewer classes than BF2, there was more of an unlock tree path to explore and develop with each class. As a stoke of genius (again, imo) - you couldn't unlock everything for every class before hitting the Rank ceiling of 50 (iirc). I maxed everything out on the engineer, but didn't manage it on the recon class. And as you only gained more unlocks through ranking up - you were stuck with what you had. It made you focus and appreciate the kit and play-style needed to do well with your team - rather than the 25 seond 'nah, bored with that - pick something else' attitude that's so prevalent online today.

I think one of the key aspects that made BF2142 work - was the fact that it was PC only. The devs knew everyone would likely to play it with keyboard and mouse - and the interface worked like a charm because of it. The introduction of console versions of the later games, diluted this somewhat and didn't make the controls as flexible - as they had to comply to the limited range of inputs from the game pads.

BF2142 to this day is still the best cooperative online FPS experience I've had. Closely followed by BF:BC2. BF3 left me cold. BF4 has left me lukewarm. The core structure that made the older games feel like you were jumping in and getting stuck in - has now gone. Now its all battle-packs (which I seem to get free quite often?) and be awash with micro-transactions. The last time I felt any for of squad mentality was having the occasional online bash with @Longy off here. I don't get the camaraderie feeling anywhere as much in BF4.
 
  Fiesta Mk8 ST-3
It's very very hard to find someone who actually stays in the gunner seat giving you support. I joined late game for this one, On the next round after this video I had another flawless kill streak before I got banned 😧
 
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  1.7 cdti
this is really funny, how it kind how people should communicate on the field.
Look on fb or YouTube for stonemountain64 , all his videos are on there .
For anyone on xbox a lot of the Dlc's are discounted this month with games for gold
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
It's very very hard to find someone who actually stays in the gunner seat giving you support. I joined late game for this one, On the next round after this video I had another flawless kill streak before I got banned 😧

I have serious reservations about 3rd person perspectives being allowed in the likes of Battlefield. It shouldn't be allowed.

Getting a wide-angled view of the outside is a bit lame in my book. Interestingly, when the devs pushed the same view out to MechWarrior Online, there were masses of players up in arms about it. It was certainly a feature they did NOT want - so much so that they had to quickly bolt-on the ability to turn off 3rd person view.
 

Moonshot

ClioSport Club Member
  A4 S Line & Impreza
I find this game so boring now. Loaded up last night for the first time in a couple of months, proper rusty, spent half my time on youtube and grabbed second place, in a 64 man server lol! The original maps are becoming too predictable. Didn't really play the newer ones too much.
 

DrR

ClioSport Club Member
  VW Golf GTD
Well I've not played any extra maps or anything? Why have I just spent £12? Only thing that's different is it it says premium when it loads.
 

Waitey

ClioSport Club Member
  Rangie Sport, Alpina
Im the same ... play it as much as i can. nobody communicates though
I know. Although last night I got randomly put into a great squad. Me and the leader just rocked around in a tank for 3 straight games. Highest scores I've ever had. Turns out I'm a great support gunner!
 

imprezaworks

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Had a couple of games after months last night. Couple of us up until 2.15am lol

Prefer this to bf1 tbh. Graphic wise it's obviously behind the times but teamwork and guns are awesome after playing bf1. I appreciate it's a different game etc. Still lots of people playing too :)
 

Waitey

ClioSport Club Member
  Rangie Sport, Alpina
Had a couple of games after months last night. Couple of us up until 2.15am lol

Prefer this to bf1 tbh. Graphic wise it's obviously behind the times but teamwork and guns are awesome after playing bf1. I appreciate it's a different game etc. Still lots of people playing too :smile:
There's one server playing 24/7 Shanghai. I love it.
 

Waitey

ClioSport Club Member
  Rangie Sport, Alpina
I couldn't play for s**t last night.

Had some really good rounds over the last few days. Might try a few other maps.
 

Aaron..

ClioSport Club Member
I had a few decent rounds last night on Rogue Transmission. Don't usually play as a sniper but it was good siting back and taking people out.

Had a few games on the island map this afternoon and couldn't shoot for s**t!
 


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