Clio 220 lpg
At the moment I'm running Trophy suspension seam strong and the springs are progresive which works well. my other suspension is Leda.
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Ph-Quick Rally Car Build
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pretty sure you need to multiply by 56, won't be far off that anyway.
RB 182 Cup
Another update
Hi!
Another small update as I worked on the car on bank holiday Monday...
Got started by refitting the handbrake, making the cable look like it was doing something, to satisfy MOT testers and scrutineers. Then I fitted the hydraulic handbrake kit behind the original:
Then fitted the tailgate springs. Needed to remove the rear bumper to do this, but pleased with the neat result!:
Next task was to remove the air box (will be refitted), battery (going in the boot), ECU anti-theft shield and bracket (in the bin), ABS wiring (for sale soon), and then remount the ECU on the inner wing.
Over the next bank holiday I plan to remove the ABS pump and all the original brake pipes, and then re do them. Also have to mount the battery and its box in the boot, make new battery cables to the master switch (in the dash) and then into the engine bay to join up with the standard battery cable.
Also removed the carbon canister. For those that have done the same, what do you do with this pipe? Blank it off, or leave it to vent? I think its a breather from the rocker cover?
The pipe from the tank, I have cut short, letting it vent near the tank.
Also, while I'm after a bit of help, I have procured a Samco 90 degree elbow that I was going to use when I refit the airbox. On a Ph1, what have others done withe the pipe that goes to the air idle valve?
I'd also like to thank Burp for his excellent project thread, particularly the sections on removing ABS.
Hi!
Another small update as I worked on the car on bank holiday Monday...
Got started by refitting the handbrake, making the cable look like it was doing something, to satisfy MOT testers and scrutineers. Then I fitted the hydraulic handbrake kit behind the original:
Then fitted the tailgate springs. Needed to remove the rear bumper to do this, but pleased with the neat result!:
Next task was to remove the air box (will be refitted), battery (going in the boot), ECU anti-theft shield and bracket (in the bin), ABS wiring (for sale soon), and then remount the ECU on the inner wing.
Over the next bank holiday I plan to remove the ABS pump and all the original brake pipes, and then re do them. Also have to mount the battery and its box in the boot, make new battery cables to the master switch (in the dash) and then into the engine bay to join up with the standard battery cable.
Also removed the carbon canister. For those that have done the same, what do you do with this pipe? Blank it off, or leave it to vent? I think its a breather from the rocker cover?
The pipe from the tank, I have cut short, letting it vent near the tank.
Also, while I'm after a bit of help, I have procured a Samco 90 degree elbow that I was going to use when I refit the airbox. On a Ph1, what have others done withe the pipe that goes to the air idle valve?
I'd also like to thank Burp for his excellent project thread, particularly the sections on removing ABS.
RB 182 Cup
So thats:
Ragnotti Gp N : 336Lbs
Clio Cup Rally : 308 Lbs
Super 1600 : 308Lbs
If that conversion is correct, I'll start with 300's, and see how I get on.
RB 182 Cup
I thought about Trophy suspension, but ruled it out when I saw the cost! Looks like its working well for you...
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RB 182 Cup
Clio 220 lpg
Think that was leda in that picture:approve:I thought about Trophy suspension, but ruled it out when I saw the cost! Looks like its working well for you...
Speak to black art desighn suspension they had all the kit for 172 and he was the main man at Leda before they changed hands.
172 Race Car
As Fred says block off the pipe at the manifold. I cut the wiring off and taped it up neat too. Doesnt bring any lights on but stores a fault in the ecu.
As for the idle valve pipe I used a length of coolant/heater hose and a small breather filter and routed it away from the engine bay.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4323084&postcount=504
As for the idle valve pipe I used a length of coolant/heater hose and a small breather filter and routed it away from the engine bay.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4323084&postcount=504
RB 182 Cup
Looked at their website, and its all a bit rich for my blood. Good quality kit though.
I have sent my shocks to a guy from my motor club, who used to work for Ohlins and Avo. He is going to see if he can re build the inserts I have, and if he can't he'll let me know if they are any good.
Thanks for the advice.
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172 Race Car
You wont be the first or the last that uses one of my ideas. Glad to be of help.Cheers Burp! Neat little solution... I'll be nicking that idea too then
You should come up to our rolling road day on the 30th to see what the old girl is churning out
RB 182 Cup
Another little update:
We had an open day at work on the 30th, and had a mobile rolling road booked for the day, so wanted to get the Clio to the point where it would run so that I could get it on the rollers...
Firstly I modified Burps idea for the air idle valve and bought a little breather filter off the bay. Its supposed to be for a mini moto, but works well enough. I didn't fancy running a length of hose to mount the filter elsewhere, so took the air idle valve off, turned it upside down and fitted the filter directly to the inlet:
Next up, get the battery box mounted in the boot and make up new battery cables:
Got it running just in time to get it on the rollers as the last car of the day. And the result:
I was a little dissapointed in the results, but it was VERY hot that day (inlet temp is at the bottom of the graph at 46 degrees!). The engine is standard except for an RS Tuner Gp N remap, an ITG filter in the standard Ph1 air box and a prospeed exhaust. Desperatly trying to find a decat at a reasonable price, which should help.
Spent all day yesterday on the car, and got on well.
Firstly I ripped out all the brake lines, ABS pump and ABS sensor wiring.
Gone!
Then started the mind numbingly boring job of making brake lines up. Did the front lines and fitted the braided flexis, and started the rear lines too. Got as far as the brake bias valve, then ran out of copper pipe.
Looks a bit tidier now too:
Placing another order with Rally Design, which I hope will be the last one. Also received my Brembo Max brake discs, stud conversion kit, K-tec gpN engine mount kit, and stainless fuel hose too, so plenty more still to do when the brake lines are done!
We had an open day at work on the 30th, and had a mobile rolling road booked for the day, so wanted to get the Clio to the point where it would run so that I could get it on the rollers...
Firstly I modified Burps idea for the air idle valve and bought a little breather filter off the bay. Its supposed to be for a mini moto, but works well enough. I didn't fancy running a length of hose to mount the filter elsewhere, so took the air idle valve off, turned it upside down and fitted the filter directly to the inlet:
Next up, get the battery box mounted in the boot and make up new battery cables:
Got it running just in time to get it on the rollers as the last car of the day. And the result:
I was a little dissapointed in the results, but it was VERY hot that day (inlet temp is at the bottom of the graph at 46 degrees!). The engine is standard except for an RS Tuner Gp N remap, an ITG filter in the standard Ph1 air box and a prospeed exhaust. Desperatly trying to find a decat at a reasonable price, which should help.
Spent all day yesterday on the car, and got on well.
Firstly I ripped out all the brake lines, ABS pump and ABS sensor wiring.
Gone!
Then started the mind numbingly boring job of making brake lines up. Did the front lines and fitted the braided flexis, and started the rear lines too. Got as far as the brake bias valve, then ran out of copper pipe.
Looks a bit tidier now too:
Placing another order with Rally Design, which I hope will be the last one. Also received my Brembo Max brake discs, stud conversion kit, K-tec gpN engine mount kit, and stainless fuel hose too, so plenty more still to do when the brake lines are done!
R26
Looking good!
I thought a 172 should be producing a bit more power than that
Not sure how much of an effect the inlet temp would have.
I thought a 172 should be producing a bit more power than that
Not sure how much of an effect the inlet temp would have.
e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Nice work mate, was your RR result from the fly or wheels?
With that much space in the bay you could route your airbox like my old PH1 track car
James
With that much space in the bay you could route your airbox like my old PH1 track car
James
RB 182 Cup
Cheers guys.
Graph shows power at the fly. Would have beenchuffed to bits if that was at the wheels! Might have to try and get along to the next Powerstation rolling road day.
I'll let you have copy that idea if you want then, as I've nicked so many off you!
I have a Compbrake one, so I'm hoping that its not the same as yours, so that I don't get the same problems as yours. If I do, I might just fit a line limiter like the early clios have. Also, I noticed that on the Compbrake bias valve, its not marked with in and out, but on my dads Tilton (Which looks like what Compbrake copied) there is an in / out marking. I'll let you know which is which if you want.
Graph shows power at the fly. Would have beenchuffed to bits if that was at the wheels!
Might have to try and get along to the next Powerstation rolling road day.I'll let you have copy that idea if you want then, as I've nicked so many off you!
I have a Compbrake one, so I'm hoping that its not the same as yours, so that I don't get the same problems as yours. If I do, I might just fit a line limiter like the early clios have. Also, I noticed that on the Compbrake bias valve, its not marked with in and out, but on my dads Tilton (Which looks like what Compbrake copied) there is an in / out marking. I'll let you know which is which if you want.
172 Race Car
Yes please, any help with this problem would be great. Ive not looked into it much yet as its a while before my next trackday.
I noticed they dont have an in and out marked on the valve, was going to ring them to find out if it mattered. Might have a go at swapping them to see if it makes any difference.
I was planning to look into getting some kind of load valve, was going to have a rumage at a mates breakers when I had time.
It will be a shame if you get the same problems as me, altho if yours is a rally car it might be an advantage
I noticed they dont have an in and out marked on the valve, was going to ring them to find out if it mattered. Might have a go at swapping them to see if it makes any difference.
I was planning to look into getting some kind of load valve, was going to have a rumage at a mates breakers when I had time.
It will be a shame if you get the same problems as me, altho if yours is a rally car it might be an advantage
RB 182 Cup
Thread from the dead!
Been ages since my last update, and I have been toiling away as and when I can. Work is busy at the moment, so I have been working 6 day weeks at the garage, so not wanting to spend my 1 day off at work! Good news is I've got some stuff done on evenings and a few hours grabbed here and there. I am off today though, so will spend tomorrow on the car. Woo!
Few pics of work now completed:
Battery master switch now completely wired in and now cuts the engine. I've also fitted an overide switch (top of the panel) incase the cut out switch fails on an event.
The rear brakes are all done, and bled through. No leaks, which is a bonus!
Engine bay coming togeather.
Drivers foot plate fitted. Not the neatest, but didn't want to fit a false floor. The rest of the floor on both sides has been fitted with clear grip tape, both to be non slip and to protect the paint underneath. Really pleased with how it looks.
Tow eye and decal on. This is actually a requirement, and not done for show!
As it stands at the moment.
Other jobs completed... Bought a new set of Titon harnesses in black, and fitted. I'm pretty much ready for an MOT now. Might get that done next week. Made up templates and cut new door cards. Made from FlexiFoam board thats normally used for signage. Just as light as carbon, but a hundreth of the price. I've had the windows taken out and clear security film applied for FIA and MSA regulations. Decided to go this route rather than fitting perspex windows as they scratch really easily, and the sliders leak!
I had a re think on the suspension, got a good price for a quantity, and tried to arrange a group buy for Bilstein coilovers. The GB nearly didn't happen but me and Martin_172 went for it, and saved loads on the kit. Awesome quality, and really looking forward to getting them on. Need to buy a few more bits first: Poly bushes for the wishbones, solid top mounts, new bottom ball joints and track rod ends, then I can do a corner at a time and finish it as I go.
Also won a 182 exhaust manifold, and coupled with a decat / link pipe, it'll hopefully relinquish a few more horses.
Tomorrows tasks will be to finish the dash wiring, so that I can get the dash top on for good. Also want to fit the lines for the plumbed in fire extinguisher, so that its another thing I can cross off my list. Also think I am going to have to move the hand held extinguisher so that my new helmet box fits. Finally, if I have time, I need to start running the braided stainless steel fuel lines down the inside of the car, and fit the FIA fuel sampling drain. Then get it MOT'd and probably taxed for the start of September to run up a few road miles to make sure its not going to fall to bits the first time I get it on a stage! In that vain, I have booked a shake down test with the motor club, hence the push to get it back on the road. Oh, and the first proper event will be the Brean stages rally in February. Can't wait!
Been ages since my last update, and I have been toiling away as and when I can. Work is busy at the moment, so I have been working 6 day weeks at the garage, so not wanting to spend my 1 day off at work! Good news is I've got some stuff done on evenings and a few hours grabbed here and there. I am off today though, so will spend tomorrow on the car. Woo!
Few pics of work now completed:
Battery master switch now completely wired in and now cuts the engine. I've also fitted an overide switch (top of the panel) incase the cut out switch fails on an event.
The rear brakes are all done, and bled through. No leaks, which is a bonus!
Engine bay coming togeather.
Drivers foot plate fitted. Not the neatest, but didn't want to fit a false floor. The rest of the floor on both sides has been fitted with clear grip tape, both to be non slip and to protect the paint underneath. Really pleased with how it looks.
Tow eye and decal on. This is actually a requirement, and not done for show!
As it stands at the moment.
Other jobs completed... Bought a new set of Titon harnesses in black, and fitted. I'm pretty much ready for an MOT now. Might get that done next week. Made up templates and cut new door cards. Made from FlexiFoam board thats normally used for signage. Just as light as carbon, but a hundreth of the price. I've had the windows taken out and clear security film applied for FIA and MSA regulations. Decided to go this route rather than fitting perspex windows as they scratch really easily, and the sliders leak!
I had a re think on the suspension, got a good price for a quantity, and tried to arrange a group buy for Bilstein coilovers. The GB nearly didn't happen but me and Martin_172 went for it, and saved loads on the kit. Awesome quality, and really looking forward to getting them on. Need to buy a few more bits first: Poly bushes for the wishbones, solid top mounts, new bottom ball joints and track rod ends, then I can do a corner at a time and finish it as I go.
Also won a 182 exhaust manifold, and coupled with a decat / link pipe, it'll hopefully relinquish a few more horses.
Tomorrows tasks will be to finish the dash wiring, so that I can get the dash top on for good. Also want to fit the lines for the plumbed in fire extinguisher, so that its another thing I can cross off my list. Also think I am going to have to move the hand held extinguisher so that my new helmet box fits.
Finally, if I have time, I need to start running the braided stainless steel fuel lines down the inside of the car, and fit the FIA fuel sampling drain. Then get it MOT'd and probably taxed for the start of September to run up a few road miles to make sure its not going to fall to bits the first time I get it on a stage! In that vain, I have booked a shake down test with the motor club, hence the push to get it back on the road. Oh, and the first proper event will be the Brean stages rally in February. Can't wait!
RB 182 Cup
Most of it. I've still got most of the plastics, the carpet, the parcel shelf & seatbelts.
Don't let a lack of experience stop you. How else will anyone learn?! There are plenty of people on here that will give advise and help.
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
good work sir
RB 182 Cup
Cheers for the support guys!
No probs! There are plenty of Burpspeed ideas on my car, it'll be great to send a few back!
Im gonna pinch your idea for the isc valve I think, quite a neat solution
No probs! There are plenty of Burpspeed ideas on my car, it'll be great to send a few back!
RB 182 Cup
RB 182 Cup
Over a month and no update.
Been busy doing bits and pieces since my last update. Nothing very exciting, so not many pics. I also spent the day on the car today. Had a big long list of things I wanted to do, including running the fuel lines through the cay in stainless overbraided hose. Took all day just to do this, and fit the fuel drain. Pleased with it though, as I made sure it looks good.
Previously I finished off the dash wiring, and put the dash top back on. Again, really pleased with this. I might of said before, but I don't like cars with no dashboards, hence retaining mine. However, the cage goes through it and I wanted to make it look as professional as possible. What do you reckon?
Also moved the hand held extinguisher so that my new helmet box would be in a better location. Not an ideal location in the cab, but no where else to put it so its accessable. Going to get another clip for it as Rally Design only supply one.
Handheld bracket in the foreground, and the seats out as I was in the middle of fitting the fuel lines when I took the photo.
Also put the car through an MOT, and it failed. Both rear shocks leaking, but thats ok as I have the Billies to go on.
I did get carried away on K-tecs website last weekend and ordered their solid top mounts, Carbone Lorainne RC-6 pads, and a poly bush set for the front wishbones. Because of this fiscal exuberence I now have all the components for the suspension and brakes. Just got to find time to fit them!
Been busy doing bits and pieces since my last update. Nothing very exciting, so not many pics. I also spent the day on the car today. Had a big long list of things I wanted to do, including running the fuel lines through the cay in stainless overbraided hose. Took all day just to do this, and fit the fuel drain.
Pleased with it though, as I made sure it looks good.Previously I finished off the dash wiring, and put the dash top back on. Again, really pleased with this. I might of said before, but I don't like cars with no dashboards, hence retaining mine. However, the cage goes through it and I wanted to make it look as professional as possible. What do you reckon?
Also moved the hand held extinguisher so that my new helmet box would be in a better location. Not an ideal location in the cab, but no where else to put it so its accessable. Going to get another clip for it as Rally Design only supply one.
Handheld bracket in the foreground, and the seats out as I was in the middle of fitting the fuel lines when I took the photo.
Also put the car through an MOT, and it failed. Both rear shocks leaking, but thats ok as I have the Billies to go on.
I did get carried away on K-tecs website last weekend and ordered their solid top mounts, Carbone Lorainne RC-6 pads, and a poly bush set for the front wishbones.
Because of this fiscal exuberence I now have all the components for the suspension and brakes. Just got to find time to fit them!
clio v6, replica, pickup
Wow I didn't realist you were doing this? Any chance I can cone take a look dome time an you gonna come get these winders? LOL
RB 182 Cup
No probs! I'll PM you details.
Yeah tell me about it!
Been working 6 day weeks this month, and really not wanting to spend my day off at work, working on the car.Not that I'm moaning about having use of a workshop mind! :clown:
You sorted your brakes yet?
RB 182 Cup
At the moment, leaving it on free spinning. At some point I'll be converting it all over to the Cup system, as I'm a girl and want to keep the PAS!
RB 182 Cup
On a side note, I decided to do something to a domain that I have owned for a while.
I have turned all of my posts in this thread into a blog. This can be found at www.lead-foot.co.uk. Please take a look and let me know what you think. It's a work in progress, and the gallery doesn't work yet. If you have been following this thread there will be nothing new there, but I wanted to document the build, and in the future the events I do in the car, in one place.
Any comments welcome.
I have turned all of my posts in this thread into a blog. This can be found at www.lead-foot.co.uk. Please take a look and let me know what you think. It's a work in progress, and the gallery doesn't work yet. If you have been following this thread there will be nothing new there, but I wanted to document the build, and in the future the events I do in the car, in one place.
Any comments welcome.
