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Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
23 December 2008
Since the car was now running we decided to book it into RStuning at leeds to get them setup and mapped. We somehow managed to get to leeds making the 1h 20m journey will flames comming out of the exhaust and not being able to let the car idle (would just cut out). When we arrived paul balanced the bodies with a trusty bit of tube (burning his arm in the process from a flame spitting out of the bodies). Once this had been complete it was then onto mapping of the car, with approx. 20-30 power runs the car was complete. The car is now running perfect and drives totally different, the lower down torque is incredible and the final bhp figure does not tell the whole storey. The car made 202bhp with catcam 420s (pretty much standard cams).
Before ITB's
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Would like to thank Paul for mapping, always a pleasure to go to RStuning
Also would like to say it was a pleasure meeting Jimbo666 and <insert friend name lol> Thanks for taking me out in your 197, its soooooooooooo quiet lol
[YOUTUBE]9KywA-yzSYU[/YOUTUBE]
carl
23 December 2008
Since the car was now running we decided to book it into RStuning at leeds to get them setup and mapped. We somehow managed to get to leeds making the 1h 20m journey will flames comming out of the exhaust and not being able to let the car idle (would just cut out). When we arrived paul balanced the bodies with a trusty bit of tube (burning his arm in the process from a flame spitting out of the bodies). Once this had been complete it was then onto mapping of the car, with approx. 20-30 power runs the car was complete. The car is now running perfect and drives totally different, the lower down torque is incredible and the final bhp figure does not tell the whole storey. The car made 202bhp with catcam 420s (pretty much standard cams).
Before ITB's
After (notice the torque!)
some from today
Would like to thank Paul for mapping, always a pleasure to go to RStuning
Also would like to say it was a pleasure meeting Jimbo666 and <insert friend name lol>
Thanks for taking me out in your 197, its soooooooooooo quiet lol[YOUTUBE]9KywA-yzSYU[/YOUTUBE]
carl
e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
Looking good guys, the car is looking trick as always... but.. are you not a bit disapointed with that power out put? please dont take it the wrong way guys but for the money ITB kits cost for say 10-15bhp :S i thought you would be running running 210bhp minium then 230+ with a good cam combo
Looking good guys, the car is looking trick as always
... but.. are you not a bit disapointed with that power out put? please dont take it the wrong way guys but for the money ITB kits cost for say 10-15bhp :S i thought you would be running running 210bhp minium then 230+ with a good cam combo
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
bhp figures dont mean s**t tbh, who says a car should run xxx bhp when every rolling road is different. these itbs have given a 21bhp gain with an increase of torque throughout the rev range, i cannot complain about that. One thing the clio lacks is lower down torque which ITB's help.
We are taking the car to motorscope in jan so we can get a reading or 210+bhp therefore will be over 30bhp gain, which is amazing
Looking good guys, the car is looking trick as always
bhp figures dont mean s**t tbh, who says a car should run xxx bhp when every rolling road is different. these itbs have given a 21bhp gain with an increase of torque throughout the rev range, i cannot complain about that. One thing the clio lacks is lower down torque which ITB's help.
We are taking the car to motorscope in jan so we can get a reading or 210+bhp therefore will be over 30bhp gain, which is amazing
e92 + E46 M3 + Cup
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
Okay good stuff :rasp:, fair enough mate, just always thought you would get more from ITB's, think i'll see what my revolution design for the airbox puts out, if i can get 185-190 out of mine while still running the standard 4-1 manifold i'll be happy enough with power - weight ratio, what power/weight ratio are you runing now barron?
Okay good stuff :rasp:, fair enough mate, just always thought you would get more from ITB's, think i'll see what my revolution design for the airbox puts out, if i can get 185-190 out of mine while still running the standard 4-1 manifold i'll be happy enough with power - weight ratio, what power/weight ratio are you runing now barron?
TrackCar & F30 330d
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
That car is just filth.
Love it lol
That car is just filth.
Love it lol
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
nope our car wasnt standard when it made 181bhp
standard 172's produce 160-170bhp on pauls rollers
standard 182's produce 170-180bhp
30bhp from a std setup would be my aim with itb's, with std engine
your before figure of 180 is not a std car is it???
so even 200 is a great acheivement
210+ is just brilliant
nope our car wasnt standard when it made 181bhp
standard 172's produce 160-170bhp on pauls rollers
standard 182's produce 170-180bhp
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
ours still has a 4-1 manifold
whats your revolution design for the airbox?
similar to my revolution design for the airbox?
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=329297
notice date :rasp:
power to weight is currently 223bhp per ton, but it still has the dash in the car aswell as a shitty cage so we could go lighter if wanted
ours still has a 4-1 manifold
whats your revolution design for the airbox?
similar to my revolution design for the airbox?
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=329297
notice date :rasp:
power to weight is currently 223bhp per ton, but it still has the dash in the car aswell as a shitty cage so we could go lighter if wanted
M135i
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
update with pics! ill do a separate thread with for my car
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2437473798_724f6584a2.jpg
update with pics! ill do a separate thread with for my car
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2437473798_724f6584a2.jpg
Qashcow
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
hi guys, have just read the whole thread. jay (burp) has spoken to me before about the project youve been doing but hadnt realised it was this good lol
loving the colour change and itb's. im at 203bhp/ton so cant wait to get whooped by you on track
I'll be doing most of the RS trackdays this year so will be good to meet you both and have a gander round the car
hi guys, have just read the whole thread. jay (burp) has spoken to me before about the project youve been doing but hadnt realised it was this good lol
loving the colour change and itb's. im at 203bhp/ton so cant wait to get whooped by you on track
I'll be doing most of the RS trackdays this year so will be good to meet you both and have a gander round the car
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
very small update (poor iphone pics)
Stripped the dash out, quite hard doing this by yourself considering stupid frenchies had wrapped the alarm wire around the heater pipe work.
also got a new battery 6.6kg (standard battery is 15-18kg i believe?)
having a rear polycarb window fitted this weekend aswell, then should be going back to RStuning on monday for abit of map tweeking.
very small update (poor iphone pics)
Stripped the dash out, quite hard doing this by yourself considering stupid frenchies had wrapped the alarm wire around the heater pipe work.
also got a new battery
6.6kg (standard battery is 15-18kg i believe?)having a rear polycarb window fitted this weekend aswell, then should be going back to RStuning on monday for abit of map tweeking.
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
B/G 182 + PH1 Track
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
I heard Bronxy made a mess of the passanger seat too.....
I heard Bronxy made a mess of the passanger seat too.....
Expert HDI & R53
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
got mine through a contact, not sure who actually sell them in the UK.
got mine through a contact, not sure who actually sell them in the UK.
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
Oh right, will look into it. What trackdays are you doing this year?
Oh right, will look into it. What trackdays are you doing this year?
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
i need to get some booked. We will be doing croft a few times, a couple of RS days, a couple of circuit days trackdays, FCS and the ring
i need to get some booked. We will be doing croft a few times, a couple of RS days, a couple of circuit days trackdays, FCS and the ring
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
test fitted the ph2 dash before it gets sent away for flocking. Will keep it in the car for the next track day (mallory park, 8th feb) but then will be removed. Also bought a rear polycarb window from plastics4performance at the weekend to complete the polycarb window set on the car
only thing i needed to do with the dash to fit was to drill 4 holes for the dials to be secured in
test fitted the ph2 dash before it gets sent away for flocking. Will keep it in the car for the next track day (mallory park, 8th feb) but then will be removed. Also bought a rear polycarb window from plastics4performance at the weekend to complete the polycarb window set on the car
only thing i needed to do with the dash to fit was to drill 4 holes for the dials to be secured in
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
that rear window is awesome......how much was that mate? may be interested in getting some for the phase 1
dash looks good, were you sending it to be flocked?
1 thing i am finding funny is all these track cars that supoosedly don't matter what they look like are having the dashes changed.....or is there a good reason for this?
the phase 2 dashes are cool anyways
that rear window is awesome......how much was that mate? may be interested in getting some for the phase 1
dash looks good, were you sending it to be flocked?
1 thing i am finding funny is all these track cars that supoosedly don't matter what they look like are having the dashes changed.....or is there a good reason for this?
the phase 2 dashes are cool anyways
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
rear window was £90.
I have no idea where to send it to get flocked yet, there seems to be no good companies local so will have to send it away to a company down south.
Reason i have gone for a ph2 dash is the fact once the airbag had been removed from the ph1 dash it was very messy behind. and also left a square of relfected light onto the window. Also ph1 dashs dont lend themselves to modding the centre for switches etc. My ph1 dash also had a lump for the uphead display which i did not use, because of this i went for the bog standard ph2 dash with no display.
oh and ph2's look cool
i did run the car without a dash for a few weeks but it was hell tbh. The glare you get from the wires and the dials is awful and makes it very distracting to drive
rear window was £90.
I have no idea where to send it to get flocked yet, there seems to be no good companies local so will have to send it away to a company down south.
Reason i have gone for a ph2 dash is the fact once the airbag had been removed from the ph1 dash it was very messy behind. and also left a square of relfected light onto the window. Also ph1 dashs dont lend themselves to modding the centre for switches etc. My ph1 dash also had a lump for the uphead display which i did not use, because of this i went for the bog standard ph2 dash with no display.
oh and ph2's look cool
i did run the car without a dash for a few weeks but it was hell tbh. The glare you get from the wires and the dials is awful and makes it very distracting to drive
Barron
ClioSport Club Member
Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
i am trying lol!
dash will be flocked, centre piece with switches.
some new gullwing seats
what else?
i am trying lol!
dash will be flocked, centre piece with switches.
some new gullwing seats
what else?
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
Re: PH1 172 Track Car, abit special *ITB update*
good reasons for the phase 2 dash mate, i have stuck with a phase 1 dash in mine but gone for a lower spec model so the airbag is gone but i will have a tray in there instead, i am currently having it flocked so i will be posting up pics of that very soon, keep an eye out for it, may be somewhere to send yours mate.....
with regards to glare when running without the dash, i know exactly how you mean.....lol
rear window was £90.
I have no idea where to send it to get flocked yet, there seems to be no good companies local so will have to send it away to a company down south.
Reason i have gone for a ph2 dash is the fact once the airbag had been removed from the ph1 dash it was very messy behind. and also left a square of relfected light onto the window. Also ph1 dashs dont lend themselves to modding the centre for switches etc. My ph1 dash also had a lump for the uphead display which i did not use, because of this i went for the bog standard ph2 dash with no display.
oh and ph2's look cool
i did run the car without a dash for a few weeks but it was hell tbh. The glare you get from the wires and the dials is awful and makes it very distracting to drive
good reasons for the phase 2 dash mate, i have stuck with a phase 1 dash in mine but gone for a lower spec model so the airbag is gone but i will have a tray in there instead, i am currently having it flocked so i will be posting up pics of that very soon, keep an eye out for it, may be somewhere to send yours mate.....
with regards to glare when running without the dash, i know exactly how you mean.....lol
