RB182: V6 Airbox Fitted

[stuart1989]

Had abit of spare time at college today, so i set about taking the OEM airbox out and fitting the Espace box, took about 15 minutes in total and ive got to say i couldnt be happier with the results Feels more responsive throughout the rev range and the induction noise is super sexy!
It doesnt have a CAF directly onto it but the original CAF is still in place just kinda laid in the hole on the V6 box, but as Tom@JMS said in their airbox thread, 'The housing sources the air from the cavity in front of the battery, where the air temperature is only 3-5 degrees above ambient @ 60mph, according to the theory this would cause a 0.6% loss in potential power due to air density, not worth it at all.' So im happy with that

Anyway heres some picture...

Comments welcome

 

[Kris86]

want. That pipe gonna stay like that though? No way of connecting them up?

 

[jenic]

How much did all the parts cost mate?

Got a JMS kit on the way but just curious

 

[stuart1989]

want. That pipe gonna stay like that though? No way of connecting them up?

Yeah or i may just strip in out completely on the weekend. Runs spot on how it is at the moment so not really too fussed!

How much did all the parts cost mate?

Got a JMS kit on the way but just curious

Box was about £70 from Renault with a filter and the Samco bend was £25 from a guy off here

 

[clio_luke]

i would stick a large caf directly on there.
has the acoustic valve been removed?
looks good tho. something i might do when i get a few pennies.

 

[stuart1989]

i would stick a large caf directly on there.
has the acoustic valve been removed?
looks good tho. something i might do when i get a few pennies.

Like i said in the OP, theres not really much point for a direct CAF.
Acoustic valve is on the todo list this weekend.

 

[clio_luke]

any loss in power no matter how small is a bad thing in my book. for the sake of a larger feed that wont cost much i would rather not have any loss of power. and it might also neaten the connection up to the airbox.
you will be losing more power the slower you are going, although not a lot.

 

[stuart1989]

any loss in power no matter how small is a bad thing in my book. for the sake of a larger feed that wont cost much i would rather not have any loss of power. and it might also neaten the connection up to the airbox.
you will be losing more power the slower you are going, although not a lot.

Only problem with a CAF that size though is it ends up getting squashed trying to fit it down there (from what ive seen on other peoples attempts) which would cause even more of a restriction..

 

[Jamesstone]

any loss in power no matter how small is a bad thing in my book. for the sake of a larger feed that wont cost much i would rather not have any loss of power. and it might also neaten the connection up to the airbox.
you will be losing more power the slower you are going, although not a lot.

You'll loose power adding the feed, Tested on the rolling road, problem is there is just not the space behind the headlight to run a feed down into the arch

Stuart you'll need a good filter to get the most out of the kit, we've tested all types the past few weeks on the RR

 

[LouisQ]

ALOT of people lose power playing with CAF's

 

[stuart1989]

You'll loose power adding the feed, Tested on the rolling road, problem is there is just not the space behind the headlight to run a feed down into the arch

Stuart you'll need a good filter to get the most out of the kit, we've tested all types the past few weeks on the RR

Already talking to Tom@JMS about getting one mate

 

[clio_luke]

You'll loose power adding the feed, Tested on the rolling road, problem is there is just not the space behind the headlight to run a feed down into the arch

Stuart you'll need a good filter to get the most out of the kit, we've tested all types the past few weeks on the RR

oh, i see. thats interesting.
would you say a standard ph2 airbox is better with or without a feed?

 

[Jamesstone]

We remove the acoustic valve feed as it works on the same basis as the V6 set-up, but the lower feed is left alone as we noticed a fair increase in air inlet temp when it was removed

 

[the_prophet]

looking forward to mine turning up now!

 

[clio_luke]

We remove the acoustic valve feed as it works on the same basis as the V6 set-up, but the lower feed is left alone as we noticed a fair increase in air inlet temp when it was removed

so you find that gives the best results on a standard ph2 airbox? i always run mine with no acoustic valve but the feed in place. i ran it with no upper feed (purely for sound) but people advised me not to due to intake temps.

 

[stuart1989]

looking forward to mine turning up now!

You should be, i was pretty surprised at the difference to be honest Top mod!

 

[the_prophet]

what were you running before?

 

[stuart1989]

Standard box with KTR Filter

 

[Tom@JMS]

so you find that gives the best results on a standard ph2 airbox? i always run mine with no acoustic valve but the feed in place. i ran it with no upper feed (purely for sound) but people advised me not to due to intake temps.

Not needed at all, see my quote above ref intake temps. Its a sound insulating pipe (hence its woolly appearance) aka a shoulder piece

 

[clio_luke]

aaah, i see. cheers for that

 

[Curley]

Am i reading this right?... No CAF is better than a 80mm CAF to the arch?

 

[Brett]

The Vee airbox looks good mate. Very tidy.

If I removed the standard insulated airfeeds from my ph1 172 airbox would this be benificial then? I've heard several people mention lately that CAF's can hamper performance.

 

[Lewis_S]

according to the tests done by JMS on the rolling road with there kit yes

 

[LouisQ]

'Ramair' is only relative at silly speeds. An open cool area has a greater affect than a tiny pipe with a bend in it

 

[Brett]

according to the tests done by JMS on the rolling road with there kit yes

I might disconnect the feeds then. I'll probably uprate them in the future anyway.

 

[stuart1989]

The Vee airbox looks good mate. Very tidy.

If I removed the standard insulated airfeeds from my ph1 172 airbox would this be benificial then? I've heard several people mention lately that CAF's can hamper performance.

Incase your misunderstood, its not the Clio V6 airbox, its the Espace V6 box.

 

[john lloyd]

did you have to trim your samco hose down by much to clear the filter/bulkhead?

 

[stuart1989]

did you have to trim your samco hose down by much to clear the filter/bulkhead?

Around 20mm mate.

 

[Curley]

Under the bay is hardly a cool place though is it?

I was literally about to buy some 80mm stuff then but I'm interested in this now.. Can someone link the thread where this was brought up please?

 

[Tom@JMS]

No its not, but the temps are based on where the air is drawn from as I mentioned earlier in the thread.

 

[Brett]

I've just removed the standard CAF's on my ph1 airbox. I can't say i've noticed any difference in performance but its a lot louder and sounds awesome.

I think i'll be going for JMS's bend and filter at some point in the near future too.

 

[Tom@JMS]

As mentioned earlier, in the words of Dan, its a shoulder-piece

 

[Brett]

Well I'll be having on soon. What ever you choose to call it

I'm sure there must be definate gains from the 'shoulder piece' the standard one just looks restrictive.

The panel filter would provide even more induction noise too won't it?

 

[Tom@JMS]

lol

'Shoulder piece' is a verb - means to sling-pointless-parts-over-your-shoulder!

Was referring to the CAF

 

[Brett]

Ahh. Now i'm with you.

The standard CAF's make no sence anyway. They're almost coiled up they're that long. That cn't be great for air flow.

 

[TimR26]

I had a look that the standard caf after removal and it was squashed so same will happen with a larger caf.

 

[Curley]

Just sent you a PM stuart.

 

[stuart1989]

Just sent you a PM stuart.

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[joker83]

I think the Phase 1 Airbox it's bettere than v6....

 

[Brett]

I'd have thought if it was JMS would have used it. I don't know though. I'd have to leave them to comment. They've done the testing.