Rear half cage from ebay

[GrahamS]

So car has now been purchased. Before I do anything I want to get a cage. I'm not going full cage because the cost is just vast.
I've been eyeing these up for years now and just wondered if anyone had any experience with them.
How easy are these to fit, quality, weight?
At under £200 it looks good. Regardless it's from ebay it looks to be made by a proper fabricator so not your standard ebay jobby. I can't find any previous threads on this despite seeing them for sale on here a few times.

 

[Addicted]

I guess the question is, is the metal used good enough that it's going to help save you in a crash, or is it going to do more damage? If it's the latter, then even if it's a show cage it's certainly something to consider :smile:.

 

[Fraser.J.]

Brilliant bit of kit for the cash. It's proper steel tube, just not msa grade steel. It's going to do more than not having it, not just going to buckle and cause more fanger

 

[GrahamS]

Yeah that's really what I'm thinking about, whether it's going to help or is it going to bust. I'm not after a show cage, just want to have somewhere to mount harnesses and protect as much as possible if the unfortunate did occur.

@Fraser.J. do you have experience with one of these tell me more!!

 

[Fraser.J.]

I had one, but I upgraded to a full cage. Couldn't fault it, good quality with good welds, I mounted with spreader plates and increased the holes for bigger bolts! Know a few guys with them

 

[dmallett]

Had one a while back, made well and fit well. Fitted with spread plates, harness bar was added by myself. Rattle can'd black

 

[imprezaworks]

If it's good enough for those two is buy one

 

[sburrell93]

Good find! That's the exact style of half cage I've been looking for but a lot cheaper than I've been seeing them lol! Got a link by any chance @GrahamS

 

[mark123]

Brilliant bit of kit for the cash. It's proper steel tube, just not msa grade steel. It's going to do more than not having it, not just going to buckle and cause more fanger

How do you know what it is made from? He has only posted up a pic?

 

[Fraser.J.]

How do you know what it is made from? He has only posted up a pic?

I had that cage and know about 5 guys with it

 

[@Josh]

@GrahamS I have one of these fitted in my track car...like the comments say I found my car much more solid when fitted and I am not and expert on steel but it is made from solid stuff.

Me and my mate who has a garage and does mainly Ford tuning is very impressed with them and like you said it will do more than not having one I'm sure.

 

[GrahamS]

Good find! That's the exact style of half cage I've been looking for but a lot cheaper than I've been seeing them lol! Got a link by any chance @GrahamS

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-05-c...124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20f604631c There you go buddy. He's been doing them for a couple of years at least. Nearly got one for the 182 but never tracked it in the end.

All sounds good then. @dmallett @Fraser.J. have you lads got any photos of the spreader plates and know rough costs of getting this done? One thing I can't do is weld!

edit @@Josh snuck in there! good to hear more good reviews. How have you mounted it matey?

 

[@Josh]

@GrahamS i don't have any pictures on my phone I will try and get some over the weekend, but basically straight through the floor but I have got a plate on the bottom so it won't get ripped though should anything happen. Then the same in the wheel arch.

Let me just add its a pain in the arse to fit easy a 2 man job with a lot of swearing, also best to remove all your front seats and put it in the most awkward way and it will fit haha

 

[@Josh]

Also for the people who want one if you all contact him and he should do you a a deal he did with us

 

[GrahamS]

Maybe we should get a group buy going.

Cheers @@Josh, I've never done a cage so all new at the moment!

 

[sburrell93]

I'm up for a group buy!

 

[@Josh]

I'm sure you would get a deal from him good guy!

They are easy enough to paint too as they come standard colour with tape all over them which is a pain to get off.

@GrahamS one think I am thinking of doing is....becuase I don't want to pay for a full cage I might put some cross bars across the door which will get mounted in my footwell and passanger footwell and then attach onto the cage about half way up the front of the cage, say where your elbow would be if you are sat in your car seat? If this makes sense to you it may well give that little but of protection if anything were to happen. Hope you get what I mean!

 

[StuOwen86]

I have one but made my own spreader plates as the ones in his 'kit' are crap imo same size as the feet on the cage and pretty thin (mine are 4mm thick steel plate and 8"x8" the rears are 3" and about 8" and have spreaders on either side of the car inside and out) the cage itself is very good granted I haven't rolled the car to test it lol I mainly wanted a harness bar but this was cheaper and I have a mate who makes his own cages for his grass tracking or whatever they call it and he's rolled a few times (I've been with him on some) and his hold up well and I would say these are better made. Had mine powder coated for £30 and jobs a good 'un. Was a bit of a pain to fit definitely a 2 man job lol and mine was bent a little by the courier.

 

[JP83]

I asked about this cage before.

http://www.cliosport.net/index.php?threads/eBay-roll-cages.750736/

 

[Fraser.J.]

I asked about this cage before.

http://www.cliosport.net/index.php?threads/eBay-roll-cages.750736/

Load of pish

 

[withoutabix]

Stu how much did he charge for your exact cage can't see him mention the cost of adding harness bars on the eBay advert or his website?

 

[GrahamS]

exactly the replies I was after. Thanks for the pictures @StuOwen86 that looks good and fixed pretty good. Does it come with bolts to fix it in or when you made up some spreader plates did you have to use extended ones?

@withoutabix 150+postage for rear cross and harness bar. I might give him a buzz this morning and see what discount he could do if we got five people together. edit, doesn't mention the harness bar on his site but will check for you. edit of the edit £160

@@Josh yeah I see what you mean. I thought about doing serious light weight and chopping the inside frame of the doors out but would want to have door bars first. If you do that let me know how you get on :smile:

@MicKPM cheers Mick, I'm really after something that is a better than nothing scenario without going overkill for doing one track day a year so it sounds pretty suitable.

 

[MicKPM]

Agreed, they're not CDS tubing but we ran similar spec cages in junior grass track when I was much much younger and having put a Mini nose to boot with one I can confirm they will do the job.

You need to be sure that spreader plates are used though. The standard crash structure is pretty decent anyway and this will add that extra support in the event you manage to get on your roof.

 

[GrahamS]

I've just dropped him a line about the cages asking for group buy prices on getting five and 10 people together. Also asked about making larger spreader plates and how much extra that would be. Will let everyone know and keep it updated.

 

[StuOwen86]

I 'think' that I used the bolts supplied they're only 8.8 still high tensile but I did have loads that I brought home from work so not 100% that I used the supplied ones. As said get the larger and thicker spreader plates if he will do them I read the msa blue book and seen how big and thick they used and made mine to that size. Think it says about 12cm squared and 4th thick I had to slightly bend the wheel arch ones and then they pulled to the right shape when I bolted them tight. I have all faith in the cage holding up to a roll BUT not that it wouldn't punch through the floor and the rear arches I wanted as much as I could as both harnesses would be pulling on it if we have a head on. I only use mine on track though.

 

[newb]

This is perfect timing as I was just looking at ordering. 100 percent will put my name down if group buy goes ahead.

 

[GrahamS]

Thanks @StuOwen86

I found this site really helpful http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.p...guide-illustrated-to-help-with-MSA-compliance am I right in thinking the spreader plates are only on one side of the car or do they act like a clamp and go both sides of the shell? The above thread thinks it's 12cm square with 3mm thick. What kind of place can weld this in?

I got an email back.

We do a fitting kit of 4 under plates and all nuts & bolts for £20. If your guy's want to fit spreader plates that is their choice. we would never use anything thicker than 2mm as this will deforme with the floor. a thick 4mm plate could tear the original floor and punch through as because it wont bend it wil tear...........We do make full cages but require the car as they are pre-stressed and welded into the car

Discount wise Alan said he could only do a 2 for 1 on postage so a saving of £14 each when two are bought. He seems to know it's the cheapest cage about for the clio! I will talk to him a little more when I have a spare moment to see if I can get any more movement on price. What are peoples thoughts?

 

[Curriepud]

I've been looking at these for a while aswell. I'd be up for getting one if any discount is available

 

[StuOwen86]

Stu how much did he charge for your exact cage can't see him mention the cost of adding harness bars on the eBay advert or his website?

Mine was £188 delivered.

 

[sburrell93]

Discount wise Alan said he could only do a 2 for 1 on postage so a saving of £14 each when two are bought. He seems to know it's the cheapest cage about for the clio! I will talk to him a little more when I have a spare moment to see if I can get any more movement on price. What are peoples thoughts?

Surely if we're buying direct then he could maybe waive whatever fees he would usually get taken off the price of an eBay sale?

 

[thedjse]

Surely if we're buying direct then he could maybe waive whatever fees he would usually get taken off the price of an eBay sale?

Thats what i do if people buy direct i knock off ebay fees,

If we get a group buy going im in!!!!

 

[Cub.]

Guys, can we set up a group buy and can gauge interest in there.

This is going away from 'how good is the cage' to 'who wants one'.

 

[newb]

@GrahamS put me on a list buddy if you sort a group buy was literally gonna order one this weekend so if I cam save on postage will help

 

[Greeny.]

Tempted...

 

[GrahamS]

Surely if we're buying direct then he could maybe waive whatever fees he would usually get taken off the price of an eBay sale?

Thats what i do if people buy direct i knock off ebay fees,
If we get a group buy going im in!!!!

@GrahamS put me on a list buddy if you sort a group buy was literally gonna order one this weekend so if I cam save on postage will help :smile:

I think that's what he's really doing with the postage. The cage sells on ebay for £130 and then he re-invoices you if you want to have the extra bars (I guess this doesn't effect final value fee he's charged) I'll talk to him on Monday and see what the crack is. Will do my best chaps.

Guys, can we set up a group buy and can gauge interest in there.

This is going away from 'how good is the cage' to 'who wants one'.

Yes! I was thinking that. Wasn't sure if I had to have the deal set up and ready to go before doing that.

 

[markblack172]

I paid £200 for that cage delivered with harness bars, spreader plates and bolts

 

[StuOwen86]

I also paid the full amount via ebay/paypal for the cage with harness bars etc £188 he didn't charge me £130 then re invoice me. Still very happy with the cage and had a few people look at it while at Oulton and comment saying it looks more expensive than £188 worth lol.

 

[Yorkshire]

Is there a link to a group buy?

 

[GrahamS]

Here's the link to the group buy thread. http://www.cliosport.net/threads/ebay-rear-half-cage-group-buy.768702/
Of course discussion on fitting and photos can stay here

 

[roncee]

Mick, how much would you charge for fitting approx? Definately interested.