Renault 5 sleeper - F4R on ITB’s

[Renny 5]

Been a long time coming on here but im not gunna back track much (full thread is on TurboRenault) First dipped my toe into French cars with a Clio 172 cup and really liked it. Sold it due to buying a house but it’d already got the taste and knew that the next baguette was going to be an R5 with a spicy twist. Not going to lie but I didn’t really know much about them and @Dannyafro was willing todo as much as he could to help me out and find/build something. After finding a low mileage car (F-reg R5 1.4 automatic) and a ph1 172 donor Danny quickly did the swap whilst I was working abroad. @Coops Mk1 and @bass_direct also helped finding some of the parts & wheels.

End result was pretty amazing, did everything I wanted it todo… look cool whilst being quick but I wasn’t free from faults. Biggest problems were the idle was erratic, wasn’t that great going into and coming out of corners and it would wheel spin Majority of the time. Ended up smashing a gearbox up so it gave me an excuse to have a fresh one built with a quaife from @NorthloopCup. Made a world of difference but still had a few handling issues. It was was already on GAZ gha’s with 350lb springs but was still a hand full. Ended up biting the bullet and fitting compbrake top mounts.

These improved handling no end and i couldn’t speak more highly of them. Ended up setting to the standard GTT settings but with -2deg of camber. Still had afew wheel spin issues but was more controllable going into corners and there were now no lift off oversteer. Still having idling issues and fitting new and 2nd hand ICV’s lost my patients and blanked it off… shortly after @Dannyafro fitted the ktec/jenvey kit to his mk1 clio and after measuring up I knew this kit would also fit into the 5

Fit like a glove but had to run shorter trumpets due to the engine bay being a lot smaller than the clios engine bay.

Made such a difference in every aspect!!

 

[Renny 5]

After fitting the itb’s and Gen90, setting the cams to Grp-N timing, i made a trip upto EFI Parts with @Dannyafro

Engines abit tierd but still made a very linear 192bhp and 159ftlb.

After taking for a quick spin I well chuffed with what Chris had done… the car was an absolute animal and sounded amazing.



Shortly after I got the car weighed with a full tank of fuel….

First show was CSF’22

Was a good show and I was gutted I didn’t get on track!

More to come soon…..

 

[MarkCup]

LOL at 840kgs, that must feel stupidly quick!

 

[Mr Squashie]

I thought it looked familiar, I remember nosing around this at CSF!

 

[Renny 5]

LOL at 840kgs, that must feel stupidly quick!

it’s very easy to clock it 🤫

I thought it looked familiar, I remember nosing around this at CSF!

there were quiet afew folk that were having a good look around it, it’s not really been on many forums apart from TurboRenault. Was always going to post a thread on here but just forget todo it.

 

[dangerous dave]

Noice... I got a few gtts myself..

 

[Adey.]

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[Renny 5]

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[Jonnio]

Nice! Think I remember you cruising past coming home from CSF22.

 

[leeds_182]

Needs gloves, a Fabia vrs and a thumbs up for the full @MarkCup experience.

 

[Coops Mk1]

Shed, love it

 

[Cub.]

Ooft. Love this, great work.

Hopefully see it in the flesh at CSF24? I was at CSF22 but missed loads of cars as I was helping out on the gate for a bit.

 

[Renny 5]

Ooft. Love this, great work.

Hopefully see it in the flesh at CSF24? I was at CSF22 but missed loads of cars as I was helping out on the gate for a bit.

Unfortunately I won’t be going to CSF24 as I’ll be at the Nurburgring that week. Will be doing afew track days this year though. Will be tagging along with @Coops Mk1 and @Dannyafro if/when they decide todo one when I’m not working.

 

[Coops Mk1]

Unfortunately I won’t be going to CSF24 as I’ll be at the Nurburgring that week. Will be doing afew track days this year though. Will be tagging along with @Coops Mk1 and @Dannyafro if/when they decide todo one when I’m not working.

Just quit you're job temporarily for when we go, then get it back afterwards, seemples

 

[McGherkin]

Such a cool little build. Awesome.

 

[NorthloopCup]

10lb of s**t in a 1lb bag = goes like a stabbed rat! 😂😂

You got a lightweight flywheel fitted as well bacon? I can’t remember now if you do or not.

 

[Renny 5]

Just quit you're job temporarily for when we go, then get it back afterwards, seemples

Probably worth thinking about 😂 always miss the decent trackdays

10lb of s**t in a 1lb bag = goes like a stabbed rat! 😂😂

You got a lightweight flywheel fitted as well bacon? I can’t remember now if you do or not.

I’m running an oem flywheel with a LUK clutch. As you know now it’s actually lasted me awhile now. Previous gearboxes used valeo clutches which all of them snapped the cover plate straps, this was with oem & TTV flywheels. still have a dent on my bonnet where a strap flew through the top of the bellhousing and smacked the bonnet 😂

 

[Renny 5]

Still in 2022….

Took the 5 to C&M for a burger, pint and this one photo….

Facts are facts 🤷🏼‍♂️

Me, @Dannyafro and our better halves went to Retro Rides gathering @ Mallory park! It’s my favourite show of the year, always good, has a high level of motors there and it’s also local to us.

As usual… TurboRenault turned up in force on Sunday.

Also some decent weapons on track.

Sorry if I’m boring you… Just a few more posts and I’ll be up to date but that was it for 2022

 

[Rich-D]

That's mega

 

[Renny 5]

2023….

Upto yet I’ve only glanced through abit of this car’s history from 2019 when I bought it as a standard 1.4 automatic but not really spoke about spec. Nothing had changed much in 2023 as the car ran brilliantly throughout the year…


•Renault 5 1.4 automatic (shell on 32,000 miles)
•Standard 172 engine (Grp N-timing)
•Ktec/Jenvey DTH throttle bodies (45mmx19mm trumpets)
•ITG jc50-40 filter
•GEN90 ecu (mapped by EFI Parts)
•Superstrint 4-2-1 manifold from a Williams with F4R flange
•2.25” exhaust with stealth tip (made by @Dannyafro)
•vibratechnic engine mounts
•PMS billet 4PK crank and aux pulley kit
•PMS breather plate
•PMS coil pack bracket
•Clio 172 cup loom
•jC5-129 with Quaife (built by @NorthloopCup)
•R5 GTT driveshafts
•PMS shifter
•Standard flywheel, LUK clutch
•GAZ gha’s (fronts valved to 172 spec, 350lb springs)
•CompBrake fully adjustable top mounts
•172 hubs (millled 4mm to suit R5 coilovers)
•172 calipers, brembo HC discs and ferodo ds2500 pads
•R5 GTT subframe (re-enforced and seam welded by reg wild from prima racing)
•R5 GTT arms with powerflex bushes
•Williams 23mm arb with powerflex bushes (modified arb and bushes to suit gtt subframe and arms)
•R5 campus rear axle with Grp-N 23.2mm torsion bars
•mk1 clio 16v rear disc conversion
•braided brake hoses
•mk1 clio 16v fuel tank and pump
•mk1 clio 16v steelies with pilotsport 3’s
•mk2 Clio 1.2 16v steering rack
•172 silicone hoses
•mk2 Clio 1.2 16v radiator

It’s a pretty good spec and can only get better from here 👀 nothing really happened for the first half of the year however I thought I’d get on track for Retrorides and make sure it was fully prepared for it, bought another set of valver steelies and had them sandblasted and powder coated satin black

Ktec was having an offer on tyres and got these for £400 delivered

Very tight fit and a contrast to the other silver steelies

As usual, Retrorides friday and Saturday is just a piss up

We got a good pitch up for quick60 on Saturday

Sunday, got on track. The car absolutely ripped round the track… even when the marshals put me with the quick60 lot the 5 managed to pull away from them.

3rd gear flat through devils elbow

ITB’s making the right noises 🎺 🎺🎺🎺 😮‍💨

Also me and @Brigsy got caught by speedhunters 👌🏼

Car handled amazing, few little issues that need addressing but I was proper impressed with it and I was well surprised with how good the AR1’s were!! Not really a nankang fan but them tyres are amazing!

 

[Renny 5]

After Retro rides I went to The Drivers collection…

Really good show, too many fords ans vw’s for my liking though 😂 shame there isn’t many Renaults that go. Managed to lay down some 0-60times on the dragy. Didn’t get as good time as I thought on the ar1’s but much better on the pilotsport 3’s.

Video of that run

Will definitely be able to get better times as the rear dampener adjusters had seized on soft and it was alittle damp but still a good time.

Now I’m up to date and I’ll stop boring you with the past 2/3yrs of stuff I kinda remember doing 😂

 

[Renny 5]

Been at this awhile now and it could possibly be the 1st….

Spoke to Nick at Pure Motorsport and asked to see if I could just buy the primaries off him, did I few trial fits before committing to buying the rest of the material that was needed… 2.25” secondaries into 2.5” downpipe under the subframe. It then reduces to 2.25” near the v-band and the rest of my exhaust is 2.25”

cut down what I thought was about right and had a friend of mine tig everything

Looks an absolute master piece and looks the b****cks in the 5

More to come soon….

 

[Brigsy]

Pms manifold looks mint. Back for map tweak soon?

 

[Renny 5]

Thanks briggs! I wanna get back to Chris as soon as but I don’t think it’ll be much different, ecu doesn’t read the O2, it only uses a fuel map which he said was the best way of running itb’s

 

[Brigsy]

Yeah itlll be mapped open loop so ecu wont do nowt with afr reading. I might be wrong but i think itll be mapped in alpha n.

I was thinking better flow on new system - might free up a bit of power/change torque curve a bit with the length and header design. Be interesting to see back to back results.

 

[Renny 5]

It’s been 2yrs since it was mapped but i think Chris said it was mapped in open loop so your probably right,I wanna get it mapped though because I definitely think it will be better top end.

 

[Brookie.]

That, right there, coolest car on CS. Absolutely love it ( & v jealous)

 

[Greeny.]

This is brilliant, absolutely love it.

 

[Renny 5]

That, right there, coolest car on CS. Absolutely love it ( & v jealous)

Thanks pal 🙏🏼 wouldn’t say it’s the coolest, there’s some pretty nice motors on here that I think are cooler than mine

This is brilliant, absolutely love it.

Cheers 👍🏼

 

[Chambers_RS]

Manifold looks mega!!

I miss my F4R engine solely because of that manifold

 

[Renny 5]

Manifold looks mega!!

I miss my F4R engine solely because of that manifold

It’s definitely a work of art 👍🏼 Nick at PMS has done a good job with making something that people obsess about 😂

 

[Renny 5]

Retro Rides weekender ‘24 @ Goodwood

Never been, always wanted Togo…. Especially round the track. Unfortunately I missed out on track tickets as they sold out on the day and I was busy trying to get that pms manifold to fit but managed to get a camping ticket anyway. Myself and a mate of mine (took his bmw e32 730i) met up at trowel services off the M1 and drove down. Both of us had no issues and set up camp as soon as.

Cant beat steak and tayters!!

Lads next to us had a lovely Ferrari 355GTS. Felt sorry for him as everyone asked if it was an MR2 😂

Seen this track beast on camp. Was owned by two brothers.

Next day got onto Goodwood grounds

 

[Renny 5]

Continued….

Both my mate and the two brothers ripped round the track. Went for a passenger ride and I was well gutted I missed out on track time. Goodwood is such a good circuit.

Got a few pictures from a photographer
📸 danclarkex - Instagram

Was a really good weekend, I proper love retrorides. They always put on a good show but RetroRides Gatering at Mallory park is my favourite which I’ll also be attending with the TurboRenault lot.

 

[Cookson]

Just read the whole thread. Epic..... just EPIC

 

[Renny 5]

RetroRides Gathering!!!

Favourite show of the year this…. Always good, always sells out, always has decent track action. Didn’t really prep the 5 apart from fitting the track wheels ready for the sprint/track day they have on Sundays.

Did sell my old GoPro as it was starting to let me down and purchased a new DJI action 4 camera.

Should get all them near misses in 4K now 😂 got there early Friday afternoon and set up camp asap

Soon as we was settled we went down to the pub, we got a pint and did a lap

Saturday was great, quick60 was on 8am-4pm. Good spectrum of cars in there with plenty of action. This was followed by the great TAT auction… really funny. People just sell s**t, money goes to charity, job done.

Also spotted this, was a runner up in the quick60

Sunday is show day with track/sprint session. Loads of the turbo Renault lot turned up… @DaveL485 sorry I didn’t see ya, car looked great, @Adey. Big Steve (sorry couldn’t remember your tag) @Brigsy and two lads from the south coast in an f7r powered R5

Had a great time on track, the 5 ran like a champ and was screaming its tits off alday!!

 

[Renny 5]

Managed to get a good few laps in….

After the track sesh I caught up with the last few

Then me and Briggs and shez drove back up north.

Really great show and weekend…. Can’t wait till next year!!

 

[RSRowe]

I love how it spins the inside wheel in 4th when you chuck it into a corner

 

[Clart]

Looks ridiculously quick.

Not sure i'd want to go that fast in that without a full cage though

 

[RSRowe]

Looks ridiculously quick.

Not sure i'd want to go that fast in that without a full cage though

+1

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Please bring it to CSF next year 😍