RIP engine?????

[Baby D]

My car is dead.



Driving in the fast lane of m25, not ridiculously fast, car stopped accelerating and engine just cut out.


Managed to get over 4 lanes into hard shoulder and nearly dying by lorry squashing.


Sitting on recovery truck at mo, they had a look and it's NOT the cambelt.




What could be wrong

 

[Dan519]

did it make any big noise?? does it turn over and try to start? Does it sound faster than normal when cranking?

 

[Laine_16v]

If it dropped a valve you would know about it, it makes a lot of noise and a lot of smoke!

 

[Baby D]

Sorry Ben ain't with it tbh!

No doesn't start and I have no idea what cranking is?

No bangs nothing, just died.

 

[Baby D]

Nup no smoke!

 

[Baby D]

Cam is still turning he said front belt hasn't gone but is a 182 a twin cam??

 

[Dan519]

it could have had a pulley slip. Same effect as the cambelt going, but without the belt actually snapping.

Look for any damage to the aux belt, could be a strip off it that's tangled in the crank pulley

Cranking = turn the key and try to start it.

 

[Budgie]

182 is twin cam, yeah.

If it was something big (ie, cambelt- you'd have probably heard some horrible noises).

The belt he'll be able to see is the aux belt.

 

[Dan519]

he'll have been looking at the cam through the oil filler

 

[Baby D]

f**k knows! He said aux is still there. Being taken to a garage. Broke down on m25 by Epsom, being towed back to Billericay..!!

 

[Budgie]

Silly question, but you have got petrol in it, right?

 

[Baby D]

he'll have been looking at the cam through the oil filler

Yep did that. Getting someone at a garage to have a look over the weekend just curious to how much it's gonna rape my pockets!!!

 

[Baby D]

Silly question, but you have got petrol in it, right?

Filled up bout 45 miles before I broke down!

 

[Jack Gilbert]

i am in the same situation, i have a horrible thinking it could be seized but dont take my word for it! :rasp:

 

[Budgie]

Unless a pulley is slipping around the belt, the cam wouldn't turn if the engine seized. You'd definitely get noises especially if on the motorway at what i presume to be 3k revs+

Shameless plug,but if either of you do need an engine, drop me a PM

 

[172cupleeds]

I was going to say the same thing,I have a complete engine and box etc, from a 172 though...if you want any info then let me know..i am no mechanic either but does anyone think it could have been electrical if there wasnt any knocks or bangs??

 

[Will.]

Filled up bout 45 miles before I broke down!

But if you only put a fiver in.......

Jokes.

Doesn't sound good tbh.Does it turn over?

 

[Danith]

Im no mechanic. But years ago my 205 GTi did this when I went to overtake a tractor. RAC came to my rescue. Turned out to be the thermostat was dead and the engine cut out cos it was getting no water or something. I was super lucky apparently as the head gasket didn't pop.
Another time it wouldn't start cos the main ignition lead had managed to disconnect or something too.

 

[yellow_chris]

i had a problem like this on a toyota starlet ( i know totally different car ) but... i was driving along around 60/65mph then the main ignition coil that feeds the ignition leads failed and the whole car just died! no noises and no power :/. hope you get to the bottom of it and its nothing serious mate

 

[Baby D]

Fingers crossed!! They're looking at it on Monday,

I hope it's something not too serious. If its mashed I won't be getting a new engine I'll get rid.! Bloody thing!!!!

 

[Danith]

ballache. surely it cant be something super serious if you didnt hear any harsh noises? suggests somethings just come loose rather than engine eating itself?

 

[Gaz_]

My 197 cut out, no lights, nothing. Turned out the fuel pump died..... However that's not unheard of on the mk3. when did you last have the belts done etc???

 

[Jaff.]

sure it was petrol you put in not diesel?

i know its hard to do that but you have to ask.

sounds electrical tbh

 

[Evz0607]

Alternator? My dash lit up like an xmas tree though then it spluttered and died!

 

[The Fatty]

if it was cam belt or a dropped valve, it would have made a lot of load bangs. Yours sounds a lot more like an electrical fault to me.

 

[Sash]

Oh man... that sucks... wanna swap it for my 1.2 polo!?!! lol

Hope it's nowt serious.

 

[Iceberg_172]

my car stopped going while overtaking someone, turned out to be the cambelt slipped, didnt even make any noises as it only slipped. bent all 16 valves aswell. engine doesnt have to make any serious noises to say its a cambelt.

just because the AA guy said the cam is still moving, the belt may still be intact but the timing could be out. best to lift of the driver side engine mount/timing cover and check the tension on the belt.

 

[red_beastie]

did u put deisel in it...

 

[The Fatty]

my car stopped going while overtaking someone, turned out to be the cambelt slipped, didnt even make any noises as it only slipped. bent all 16 valves aswell. engine doesnt have to make any serious noises to say its a cambelt.

Did you have the music on really loud or something like that? becasue im pretty sure 8 valves crashing into pistons would make some sort of noise....

 

[.GAZ.]

LOL^

 

[Gally]

my car stopped going while overtaking someone, turned out to be the cambelt slipped, didnt even make any noises as it only slipped. bent all 16 valves aswell. engine doesnt have to make any serious noises to say its a cambelt.

just because the AA guy said the cam is still moving, the belt may still be intact but the timing could be out. best to lift of the driver side engine mount/timing cover and check the tension on the belt.

Oh dear.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Did you have the music on really loud or something like that? becasue im pretty sure 8 valves crashing into pistons would make some sort of noise....

you know what, you'd be surprised! I had a rod come out of the front grille once (not joking) and the thing made no noise, just shut off, clouds of smoke, that was it!

 

[marcushookdale]

hope its nothing big time mate, its a fcuker when your car dies,

 

[Baby D]

Are u serious reetrol/diesel!

Im not That thick, the car I've had for 4/5 years and always used unleaded lol.

Ill be finding out tomorrow

 

[Fred@BTM]

when was the belt done Donna?

 

[scotty2hotty81]

You cant put diesel in petrol only petrol in diesel, even if this was the case you wouldn't do 1 mile without it cutting out.

 

[bengtt5]

dropped valve

 

[Iceberg_172]

No the music wasnt on. Put it this way, it didnt make "a lot of load bangs"

And no im not deaf.

 

[Baby D]

Ok, they haven't looked properly but the cambelt has gone and I think piston/valves he said I'm looking at least 800 quid but there may be even more wrong, will be finding out this week.


Fuckinh ridiculous.


As I said was no noise or smoke so was hoping it wasn't.

I can't afford that to fix it, and insurance isn't mechanical issues so I'm fucked. Do u think anyone would buy it even though it needs a lot done to it???

 

[Revels]

Someone will buy it. But for 2k absolute max.